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Old 07-02-2007, 07:51 AM   #76
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Out of curiousity, if the point is to make the most power out of a stock 2.0, why run conservative timing and relatively rich A/F on VP import? Seems like a waste of octane (and $23/gallon) to me.

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Old 07-02-2007, 09:39 AM   #77
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Ok, so here's the series of events Friday night.

Drive to the track, stop 2 miles away and dump the gas in.
Tech and all that good stuff (Yea i'm gonna run 13's blah blah blah)
Line up for the first run, 12psi off the line, 1.9 60' with the tires spinning, 11.87@121mph

Second run; another tiring spinning launch (Didn't want to snap the axles) 11.86 @121.

So here's where I'm starting to get agitated, banging the 1-4 clutchless with my good ole PPG 1-4 Dogset and only 11.86. I couldn't figure it out, I mean i know the 60' sucked but that was by choice. (My average 60' in my own car is between 1.60 and 1.65) So I hook the utec up and go for another run to check the boost, AH HA! only 28psi.... Turned the boost up to 32psi and let it rip. What a time to get the run, I look to my left and there is a 35R EVO. Tree drops, I'm off, clutchless 1-2 off the rev limit, still next to him, clutchless 2-3 off the rev limit and then it just right back to the rev limit. At this point i'm yelling at the car.... Stupid clutch. The twin plate had been sitting in Jamie's tool box for months. I guess it wasn't in such good shape anymore.

So the moral of the story is, I trapped 121 on low boost not launching the car, so with axles and a good clutch.... Low 11's maybe a high 10.

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Old 07-02-2007, 02:38 PM   #78
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Ok, so here's the series of events Friday night.

Drive to the track, stop 2 miles away and dump the gas in.
Tech and all that good stuff (Yea i'm gonna run 13's blah blah blah)
Line up for the first run, 12psi off the line, 1.9 60' with the tires spinning, 11.87@121mph

Second run; another tiring spinning launch (Didn't want to snap the axles) 11.86 @121.

So here's where I'm starting to get agitated, banging the 1-4 clutchless with my good ole PPG 1-4 Dogset and only 11.86. I couldn't figure it out, I mean i know the 60' sucked but that was by choice. (My average 60' in my own car is between 1.60 and 1.65) So I hook the utec up and go for another run to check the boost, AH HA! only 28psi.... Turned the boost up to 32psi and let it rip. What a time to get the run, I look to my left and there is a 35R EVO. Tree drops, I'm off, clutchless 1-2 off the rev limit, still next to him, clutchless 2-3 off the rev limit and then it just right back to the rev limit. At this point i'm yelling at the car.... Stupid clutch. The twin plate had been sitting in Jamie's tool box for months. I guess it wasn't in such good shape anymore.

So the moral of the story is, I trapped 121 on low boost not launching the car, so with axles and a good clutch.... Low 11's maybe a high 10.

Thoughts???

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PS- the axles will hold 1.7-1.6 launches no problem... just beware of wheel hop... from spinning too much.
make sure you insure equal tire pressures left to right and line up square to where the rubber is being laid.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:56 PM   #79
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Awesome numbers on thestock 205, makes me kinda reconsider rebuilding mine and trying to run more power on the stock motor. I will definately be coming to turbo xs for a tune
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:48 AM   #80
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Great numbers and times. Can't wait to get mine back so I can snap the axles and bring it back to ya.
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Old 07-03-2007, 08:48 AM   #81
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Great numbers and times. Can't wait to get mine back so I can snap the axles and bring it back to ya.
Of all the things I have broke, an axle has never been one of them... although I do have a full spare set... tons of 11 sec passes and 1.6/1.7 sixty foot times, 6 years and HUNDREDS of passes total, and I am still on the stock axles.

But, then again, that was on a 2 liter... the 2.5's torque may put them over the edge.

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Old 07-03-2007, 09:23 AM   #82
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I break more axles then anything else. My car is a little different with regards to weight distribution, etc., but seriously I’ve lost count of how many front axles I’ve toasted. In fact, I have a bad one under the car as we speak that needs to be replaced.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:33 PM   #83
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my buddy snapped the axles on his STi after only a few passes at the track on 360whp....odd how some cars are so different
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:22 AM   #84
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my buddy snapped the axles on his STi after only a few passes at the track on 360whp....odd how some cars are so different
You would think he is dropping the clutch too fast, and shocking the drive train too much to break the axles.
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:08 PM   #85
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That car is sick... Turbo XS and AndrewTech make a great team.
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:12 PM   #86
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That car is sick... Turbo XS and AndrewTech make a great team.
I can certainly agree with that.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:08 PM   #87
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so edwin , why did u drive jaimes car and he didnt?
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:44 PM   #88
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missed this thread, pretty crazy stuff, vp is damn expensive though, i wonder if the prices have dropped. Maybe somewhere else to get it that you guys have found? *damn dug-e-fresh's profile is sick though*
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:53 PM   #89
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Nice! I must have missed this last month....What are you gonna put in for a new clutch??

EJ205 POWER!!!!!!
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:42 PM   #90
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Nice high 11's on a bad clutch and no launching. Can't wait to see what it will do with the new clutch and launching!
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:21 PM   #91
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Amazing job~ was thinking of pushing my 205 to the limits, but not yet~ don't have the funds yet~!!
Great passes. Keep us updated

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Old 08-07-2007, 05:48 PM   #92
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EDIT- that car is sick

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Old 08-07-2007, 05:51 PM   #93
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^ I am not really sure what you just said, but more power to you (I think). Love the car though, it has talked me into going rotated.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:48 PM   #94
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Awesome numbers. Very interested in trying to mimic them actually. I wish I would have known this was even possible on a stock 205 tho before I dropped a ton of money into building it.

Question tho... is it possible to produce this sort of power with a stock location turbo? I don't want to go rotated so that kinda dismisses the GT series turbo's from what I have seen. Red is too big. What turbo characteristics are most like the 30r .63 that will fit under the hood and bolt up? Clipped 8cm Green maybe?

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Old 08-07-2007, 11:22 PM   #95
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Out of curiousity, if the point is to make the most power out of a stock 2.0, why run conservative timing and relatively rich A/F on VP import? Seems like a waste of octane (and $23/gallon) to me.

Frank
Frank,
I agree...I want to here some more support for using such an expensive fuel as I will be getting my car tuned on the stuff by the end of the month.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:07 AM   #96
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Awesome numbers. Very interested in trying to mimic them actually. I wish I would have known this was even possible on a stock 205 tho before I dropped a ton of money into building it.

Question tho... is it possible to produce this sort of power with a stock location turbo? I don't want to go rotated so that kinda dismisses the GT series turbo's from what I have seen. Red is too big. What turbo characteristics are most like the 30r .63 that will fit under the hood and bolt up? Clipped 8cm Green maybe?

-Derf
Check into Blouch's Dominator series.
They have 3 different versions, one about the size of a green, and on up.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:13 AM   #97
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do those blouch dominators like to see that much boost?
congrats on those numbers... your motor is posessed. and well tuned
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:38 AM   #98
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Awesome numbers. Very interested in trying to mimic them actually. I wish I would have known this was even possible on a stock 205 tho before I dropped a ton of money into building it.

Question tho... is it possible to produce this sort of power with a stock location turbo? I don't want to go rotated so that kinda dismisses the GT series turbo's from what I have seen. Red is too big. What turbo characteristics are most like the 30r .63 that will fit under the hood and bolt up? Clipped 8cm Green maybe?

-Derf
I agree with akira, the Dom III is basically a stock location 30r, another one to look into would be the Element GT 52. These are both fairly similar turbos, and if looking for big power, should be had with the 8cm hot side and an EWG setup for boost control. Would you get numbers like this with either of these turbos? Highly unlikely. The hotside isn't big enough for our engines with that big of a turbo. Clark (AZ SCOOBIE) has said it over and over. Doesn't make it gospel necessarily, but he's not the only one saying it. My .02

p.s. Alittle better spool and less power could be had with something like the Dom 2.5r

edit - Check here for the most impressive results i've seen with the stock location 30R's. Post #55
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I agree with akira, the Dom III is basically a stock location 30r, another one to look into would be the Element GT 52. These are both fairly similar turbos, and if looking for big power, should be had with the 8cm hot side and an EWG setup for boost control. Would you get numbers like this with either of these turbos? Highly unlikely. The hotside isn't big enough for our engines with that big of a turbo. Clark (AZ SCOOBIE) has said it over and over. Doesn't make it gospel necessarily, but he's not the only one saying it. My .02

p.s. Alittle better spool and less power could be had with something like the Dom 2.5r

edit - Check here for the most impressive results i've seen with the stock location 30R's. Post #55
GT52 is what I have and on a 2.5L with 110 and methanol it made 507/510. The GT52 is a 7cm hot side FYI.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:01 PM   #100
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an 8cm hot side with an EWG is a little bit overkill don't you think?

^^Does your 7cm have any creeping issues? what numbers did you get on pump gas?
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