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Old 11-13-2007, 10:41 PM   #1
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Default smoke on cornering - 89 DL (EA 82?)

so here's the deal - i have a 89 DL sedan (FWD, 3sp AT) that we got for free from my aunt who's too old to drive it anymore. i think it's an EA-82 because it's fuel injected. it has 44,000 miles, so low, but issues nonetheless. she's not leaking any oil to speak of, and doesn't seem to be using any oil or coolant.

but when i go into a turn, like the long sweeper on- and off-ramps at higher speeds (above 45mph), she smokes pretty bad. it's greyish smoke. i took the same turn (a 270 degree sweeper) several times at different speeds, and it doesn't seem to happen in the same turn if you go slower (like 25-30mph). it does NOT smoke under load at a stop (ie revving at a light).

i'm starting to think it might be bad rings, but it's not clear to me why it's only happening in the turns. also, would switching to a thicker oil help for the short term? thanks.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:21 PM   #2
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that is strange.....any idea whether it's coming out of the exhaust, or if it's maybe just something smoking in the engine bay....
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:34 PM   #3
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Chux I'm surprised you don't know this!

Anyways, EA82s eventually had a recall in the earle 90's because on long, sweeping curves, oil would get sucked up into the PCV system and burn though the engine and blow smoke out of the exhaust. Since the recall only affected the newer "Loyales" and not the GL (same thing), 99% of the GLs don't have the recall equip PCV system on it. IIRC, the dealer still sells them or check out the USMB because I know there's a way to redo the PCV system yourself to prevent this from happening. My '87 GL coupe does it to but I'm too lazy to redo it.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:38 PM   #4
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Chux I'm surprised you don't know this!

Anyways, EA82s eventually had a recall in the earle 90's because on long, sweeping curves, oil would get sucked up into the PCV system and burn though the engine and blow smoke out of the exhaust. Since the recall only affected the newer "Loyales" and not the GL (same thing), 99% of the GLs don't have the recall equip PCV system on it. IIRC, the dealer still sells them or check out the USMB because I know there's a way to redo the PCV system yourself to prevent this from happening. My '87 GL coupe does it to but I'm too lazy to redo it.

ah, that sounds like it exactly. i'll head over to USMB and see if i can get more info. btw, is it just going to be the PCV valve, or is it more involved than that? thanks.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:56 PM   #5
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The fix involves changing the routing of some of the PCV hoses, and nothing with the actual valve, IIRC.

I just looked, and I don't have the recall part number anywhere.

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Old 11-14-2007, 08:24 PM   #6
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Chux I'm surprised you don't know this!

Anyways, EA82s eventually had a recall in the earle 90's because on long, sweeping curves, oil would get sucked up into the PCV system and burn though the engine and blow smoke out of the exhaust. Since the recall only affected the newer "Loyales" and not the GL (same thing), 99% of the GLs don't have the recall equip PCV system on it. IIRC, the dealer still sells them or check out the USMB because I know there's a way to redo the PCV system yourself to prevent this from happening. My '87 GL coupe does it to but I'm too lazy to redo it.
huh....I'm surprised too! I can't recall (no pun intended) ever hearing about that. interesting....
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huh....I'm surprised too! I can't recall (no pun intended) ever hearing about that. interesting....
neither can I.....I always thought this was just a clogged valve....
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:33 PM   #8
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Its actually both from what I hear. A genuine subaru PCV valve may fix it. I THINK the updated PCV system has blue couplers on them... you can find them here and there in junkyards, or hit up a dealer. Try just the GEUNINE PCV valve first. It worked on my 87 (carbed)
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:05 PM   #9
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so will looking at the way a Loyale is plumbed show me how to retrofit my car? is it just copying the way the later cars are set up?
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:24 AM   #10
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my '91 loyale does not have the 'corrected' routing of the hoses. So, you may luck out and come across one with the new routing, or may not.

There was anotherl link posted in the USMB thread that has pictures of the fix. Looks pretty simple to do.

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