07' 2.5i Open-Source Maps available here!

deviantek · 03-07-2008, 02:50 PM

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to the hard work by my tuner Master2192 (Sean, who passed away in a tragic accident with his WRX) I've acquired the MAPs from his girlfriend which a lot of you have been eagerly awaiting.

These maps were used to tune my car w/ various mods and I would not recommend using them as is (unless your car is remarkably similar). With some tweaking they should be quite nice.

I will not be providing any support for these maps and it comes as-is. These are free to all, so please don't go posting them elsewhere asking for $$.

Noteworthy mods when maps were taken:
Genuine Borla UEL Headers
Highflow Cat
2.5" 1 piece magnaflow exhaust w/ resonator
LW Crank Pulley
Injen Cold Air Intake

DOWNLOAD: http://rapidshare.de/files/38768737/...anual.zip.html

All credit goes to the man who made it possible and to who was immensely respected in the NASIOC community: Sean, (Master2192)

You have been 'mastertuned.'

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formula91 · 03-07-2008, 03:49 PM

Hats off to the man who did N/A Tuning
My condolences.

At the same time, I'm sure we could all use this with great appreciation.

Gr3en · 03-07-2008, 04:47 PM

When I first found out that he passed I was really upset because I was emailing back and forth with my map asking him to modify it for me. I never knew him, wish I had. Am at a loss for words.

RaceFaceXC · 03-07-2008, 06:13 PM

Yeah, that is a huge bummer. I remember reading a bunch of posts by him and thats part of what got me into OpenSource tuning, our loss for sure. Thanks a bunch for the maps, i cant wait to look @ them.

06demon · 03-07-2008, 06:47 PM

sad to hear

....so i can got to any performance place give them the map but tune it so its works right for my car?

williaty · 03-08-2008, 12:49 AM

Actually, if you wait a little bit, one of my friends here in town who worked closely with Sean is setting up a website that will contain every tune Sean ever did. His girlfriend has given the laptop to someone with the knowledge to hunt down and extract the ROMs and correlate them to the car they belong to (for a mod list). All that will end up on the site.

Frighteningly, if you have NA tuning questions, it looks like I'm the person to ask with Sean no longer with us.

:gulp:

semaj · 03-08-2008, 12:54 AM

williaty, that will be a great website to put together. I'd like my car to be "Mastertuned".

RIP Master2192

watchunglava · 03-08-2008, 02:19 PM

wow good lookin out to seans gf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
masters work while not nasa or anything ment and means alot to alot of people. so thanks seans girlfriend.

so whats up i had similar mods to this guy i have an intake lightwieght crank pulley mostly stock exausht except for wrx axleback . how much tweeking do you think it would take to make this rock for my ride .

man i wish master was around.

can anyone lend a hand? im new to tuning , have all the goods (romraider/ecuflash/tac cable/ current defs/)to get it done , just dont have the knowlege yet can anyone help ?

i know wility threw down on another post about tuning the ecu good lookin out dude. hey is it possible you could offer more help? you seem to be the man right now as far as n/a tuning goes

williaty · 03-08-2008, 02:23 PM

Well, what do you want to know?

watchunglava · 03-08-2008, 02:32 PM

well id like to know pretty much like ok , im looking at all these parameters right. explain this to me , how do i know what the the target # should be ? like im lost . i understand how to use the software just dont understand what im supposed to tweek. its like if i had a calculator and understood that you push a # a # apears and you can change the #'s and stuff but i dont understand math . thats how it is with me and ecu tuning . also should i reflash my ecu with this map or just wait untill that website comes up you were talking about. and do you have knowledge of when thats going to be up. i want my ecu tuned so bad. maybe you know whats up , i could log like mad if you are into tuning it out for me?

LTracer · 03-08-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williaty

Actually, if you wait a little bit, one of my friends here in town who worked closely with Sean is setting up a website that will contain every tune Sean ever did. His girlfriend has given the laptop to someone with the knowledge to hunt down and extract the ROMs and correlate them to the car they belong to (for a mod list). All that will end up on the site.

Frighteningly, if you have NA tuning questions, it looks like I'm the person to ask with Sean no longer with us.

:gulp:

I have two (89 and 91) maps that Sean provided for us '05 guys. I'll throw them out there if they aren't already available/provided. Also, I'd be willing to share my own ROM as well, although I think thats better suited to a ROMraider thread. You are a self-proclaimed n/a expert Ty, congrats!

LTracer · 03-08-2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchunglava

well id like to know pretty much like ok , im looking at all these parameters right. explain this to me , how do i know what the the target # should be ? like im lost . i understand how to use the software just dont understand what im supposed to tweek. its like if i had a calculator and understood that you push a # a # apears and you can change the #'s and stuff but i dont understand math . thats how it is with me and ecu tuning . also should i reflash my ecu with this map or just wait untill that website comes up you were talking about. and do you have knowledge of when thats going to be up. i want my ecu tuned so bad. maybe you know whats up , i could log like mad if you are into tuning it out for me?

In short there is no 'target #' per say for most of the parameters you can to tune. The parameters depend on many factors such as mods/climate/fuel etc. Two identical cars could individually perform better with custom tunes.

Here's a starting point:
http://www.romraider.com/Documentation/RomRaiderFAQ

The two books at the bottom of that page are great for those with little background. It takes studying, time, and patience if you really want to understand your car and what the heck you are tuning.

06demon · 03-08-2008, 07:39 PM

would have to buy this>> http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp...TAC%2DOPSUBDBW <<then use the maps that you have?

watchunglava · 03-08-2008, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06demon

would have to buy this>> http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp...TAC%2DOPSUBDBW <<then use the maps that you have?

thanks dude ive gotten that far

watchunglava · 03-08-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTracer

In short there is no 'target #' per say for most of the parameters you can to tune. The parameters depend on many factors such as mods/climate/fuel etc. Two identical cars could individually perform better with custom tunes.

Here's a starting point:
http://www.romraider.com/Documentation/RomRaiderFAQ

The two books at the bottom of that page are great for those with little background. It takes studying, time, and patience if you really want to understand your car and what the heck you are tuning.

ive accually allready bought the jeff hartman book and have been reading it . i ve also been on the opensource forums and have been trying to learn , but im such a noob at ecu tuning . im more of like ohh my water pump is shot let me fix it and upgrade it while im at it . but looking at some of the dynos of tuned 07 2.5i's man thats some untapped free power . i realize that in modern cars its all about the ecu . ive managed to pull my stock rom . and ive been checking out how to use the software , i feel comfortable using it i just like i said dont know what i should be tweeking and why

LTracer · 03-08-2008, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchunglava

ive accually allready bought the jeff hartman book and have been reading it . i ve also been on the opensource forums and have been trying to learn , but im such a noob at ecu tuning . im more of like ohh my water pump is shot let me fix it and upgrade it while im at it . but looking at some of the dynos of tuned 07 2.5i's man thats some untapped free power . i realize that in modern cars its all about the ecu . ive managed to pull my stock rom . and ive been checking out how to use the software , i feel comfortable using it i just like i said dont know what i should be tweeking and why

A good starting point might be to compare the timing map, fueling map, and OL/CL parameters between your base ROM and the ROM's available above. This will allow you to gain insight on one tuner's (SEAN-RIP) strategy. Again, every car is different, but this be helpful starting point provided you understand the ECU and it's knock control strategy.

Frankly there isn't alot of 'untapped free power' available without bolt on modifications and moving to a higher octane (89-91). Even with bolt ons and higher octane you don't have unlimited freedom in adding timing. You'll find knock sooner than later with pump gas. Understand the ECU and you'll find an answer to your 'why' questions

What are your mods and goals for the car? Are you willing to settle on a higher octane fuel? What is the fuel quality in your region?

watchunglava · 03-08-2008, 08:16 PM

well right now i have a lightwieght crank pulley cosmo short ram intake that i put a k and n x stream filter on. , wrx axle back but im putting on a sti axle back this week ,ive done up all the brakes and im working on suspention right now. stainless steel clutch line , ive changed out mad bushings and stuff but i think thats it as far as performance mods go.
im down with the higher octane. i can get 93 all over. used to be able to get 94 but sunoco doesnt sell it anymore. the 2.5i block is too thin to turbo so i just want this one to breath right .

as far as goals for the car i just dont want to get rear ended by a tractor trailer while trying to change lanes in traffic. i think ill be happy with the power i have once the ecu is tuned right.

williaty · 03-08-2008, 11:03 PM

Really, the only thing you've got that you can tune for (and you need to) is the Cosmo intake. Follow my MAF Scaling tutorial on here or just use the MAF tool in the alpha 785 build of RomRaider.

RaceFaceXC · 03-09-2008, 12:08 PM

hey Williaty, i cant find the alpha 785 build on the romraider website. You have any links to it?

LTracer · 03-09-2008, 12:29 PM

v 785 here:

http://www.assembla.com/spaces/files...ar3k3babIlDkbG

RaceFaceXC · 03-09-2008, 12:30 PM

thx LT

RaceFaceXC · 03-09-2008, 12:56 PM

where can i read how to use the MAF tool in the 785 build? Im running the 785 build but havnt found the MAF scaling tool. just curious how my rescale using williatys HOWTO and the MAF scaling tool compare. thx.

06demon · 03-09-2008, 01:19 PM

but i still dont fully understand how to do it i read it all....

RaceFaceXC · 03-09-2008, 01:23 PM

do what? read what all?

williaty · 03-09-2008, 01:24 PM

Search on RomRaider's forum, there's a thread about the MAF tool. Actually, I think there's at least 2 threads about it on here.

It's pretty much plug and play, but you should probably read what the dev has to say about it.

03-07-2008, 02:50 PM	#1
deviantek Scooby Specialist Member#: 146581 Join Date: Apr 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Seattle / VA Beach Vehicle: 06 IX MR GG Evo 1 Rally Time	07' 2.5i Open-Source Maps available here! Hello Everyone, Thanks to the hard work by my tuner Master2192 (Sean, who passed away in a tragic accident with his WRX) I've acquired the MAPs from his girlfriend which a lot of you have been eagerly awaiting. These maps were used to tune my car w/ various mods and I would not recommend using them as is (unless your car is remarkably similar). With some tweaking they should be quite nice. I will not be providing any support for these maps and it comes as-is. These are free to all, so please don't go posting them elsewhere asking for $$. Noteworthy mods when maps were taken: Genuine Borla UEL Headers Highflow Cat 2.5" 1 piece magnaflow exhaust w/ resonator LW Crank Pulley Injen Cold Air Intake DOWNLOAD: http://rapidshare.de/files/38768737/...anual.zip.html All credit goes to the man who made it possible and to who was immensely respected in the NASIOC community: Sean, (Master2192) You have been 'mastertuned.' * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by deviantek; 03-07-2008 at 03:10 PM.

03-08-2008, 02:19 PM	#8
watchunglava Scooby Specialist Member#: 168862 Join Date: Jan 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Portland Maine Vehicle: 2007 ej253n/a 5speed Red Sox Nation Lifer	nice wow good lookin out to seans gf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! masters work while not nasa or anything ment and means alot to alot of people. so thanks seans girlfriend. so whats up i had similar mods to this guy i have an intake lightwieght crank pulley mostly stock exausht except for wrx axleback . how much tweeking do you think it would take to make this rock for my ride . man i wish master was around. can anyone lend a hand? im new to tuning , have all the goods (romraider/ecuflash/tac cable/ current defs/)to get it done , just dont have the knowlege yet can anyone help ? i know wility threw down on another post about tuning the ecu good lookin out dude. hey is it possible you could offer more help? you seem to be the man right now as far as n/a tuning goes

03-08-2008, 02:32 PM	#10
watchunglava Scooby Specialist Member#: 168862 Join Date: Jan 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Portland Maine Vehicle: 2007 ej253n/a 5speed Red Sox Nation Lifer	alot well id like to know pretty much like ok , im looking at all these parameters right. explain this to me , how do i know what the the target # should be ? like im lost . i understand how to use the software just dont understand what im supposed to tweek. its like if i had a calculator and understood that you push a # a # apears and you can change the #'s and stuff but i dont understand math . thats how it is with me and ecu tuning . also should i reflash my ecu with this map or just wait untill that website comes up you were talking about. and do you have knowledge of when thats going to be up. i want my ecu tuned so bad. maybe you know whats up , i could log like mad if you are into tuning it out for me?

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formula91 Scooby Specialist Member#: 102984 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Northbrook, IL Vehicle: 2005 2.5RS 4EAT Platinum Silver	Hats off to the man who did N/A Tuning My condolences. At the same time, I'm sure we could all use this with great appreciation.

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Gr3en Scooby Specialist Member#: 160991 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Gorillaoffroadcompany.com Vehicle: 05 Corn Burner Dirt Silver?	When I first found out that he passed I was really upset because I was emailing back and forth with my map asking him to modify it for me. I never knew him, wish I had. Am at a loss for words.

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RaceFaceXC Scooby Specialist Member#: 165749 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: stupid Florida Vehicle: 2007 No YELLING on the bus!	Yeah, that is a huge bummer. I remember reading a bunch of posts by him and thats part of what got me into OpenSource tuning, our loss for sure. Thanks a bunch for the maps, i cant wait to look @ them.

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06demon Scooby Specialist Member#: 151398 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston	sad to hear ....so i can got to any performance place give them the map but tune it so its works right for my car?

03-08-2008, 12:49 AM	#6
williaty Scooby Guru Member#: 71092 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Delaware County, Ohio Vehicle: 2005 2.5RS Wagon Regal Blue Pearl	Actually, if you wait a little bit, one of my friends here in town who worked closely with Sean is setting up a website that will contain every tune Sean ever did. His girlfriend has given the laptop to someone with the knowledge to hunt down and extract the ROMs and correlate them to the car they belong to (for a mod list). All that will end up on the site. Frighteningly, if you have NA tuning questions, it looks like I'm the person to ask with Sean no longer with us. :gulp:

03-08-2008, 12:54 AM	#7
semaj Moderatour Moderator Member#: 113533 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver, BC Vehicle: 2013 Leafs Hatewagon	williaty, that will be a great website to put together. I'd like my car to be "Mastertuned". RIP Master2192

03-08-2008, 02:23 PM	#9
williaty Scooby Guru Member#: 71092 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Delaware County, Ohio Vehicle: 2005 2.5RS Wagon Regal Blue Pearl	Well, what do you want to know?

03-08-2008, 07:39 PM	#13
06demon Scooby Specialist Member#: 151398 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston	would have to buy this>> http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp...TAC%2DOPSUBDBW <<then use the maps that you have?

03-08-2008, 08:16 PM	#17
watchunglava Scooby Specialist Member#: 168862 Join Date: Jan 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Portland Maine Vehicle: 2007 ej253n/a 5speed Red Sox Nation Lifer	well right now i have a lightwieght crank pulley cosmo short ram intake that i put a k and n x stream filter on. , wrx axle back but im putting on a sti axle back this week ,ive done up all the brakes and im working on suspention right now. stainless steel clutch line , ive changed out mad bushings and stuff but i think thats it as far as performance mods go. im down with the higher octane. i can get 93 all over. used to be able to get 94 but sunoco doesnt sell it anymore. the 2.5i block is too thin to turbo so i just want this one to breath right . as far as goals for the car i just dont want to get rear ended by a tractor trailer while trying to change lanes in traffic. i think ill be happy with the power i have once the ecu is tuned right.

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williaty Scooby Guru Member#: 71092 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Delaware County, Ohio Vehicle: 2005 2.5RS Wagon Regal Blue Pearl	Really, the only thing you've got that you can tune for (and you need to) is the Cosmo intake. Follow my MAF Scaling tutorial on here or just use the MAF tool in the alpha 785 build of RomRaider.

03-09-2008, 12:08 PM	#19
RaceFaceXC Scooby Specialist Member#: 165749 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: stupid Florida Vehicle: 2007 No YELLING on the bus!	hey Williaty, i cant find the alpha 785 build on the romraider website. You have any links to it?

03-09-2008, 12:29 PM	#20
LTracer Scooby Newbie Member#: 167703 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: MN Vehicle: 2005 '05 2.5RS 5MT '10 Forester X Limited	v 785 here: http://www.assembla.com/spaces/files...ar3k3babIlDkbG

03-09-2008, 12:30 PM	#21
RaceFaceXC Scooby Specialist Member#: 165749 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: stupid Florida Vehicle: 2007 No YELLING on the bus!	thx LT

03-09-2008, 12:56 PM	#22
RaceFaceXC Scooby Specialist Member#: 165749 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: stupid Florida Vehicle: 2007 No YELLING on the bus!	where can i read how to use the MAF tool in the 785 build? Im running the 785 build but havnt found the MAF scaling tool. just curious how my rescale using williatys HOWTO and the MAF scaling tool compare. thx.

03-09-2008, 01:19 PM	#23
06demon Scooby Specialist Member#: 151398 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston	but i still dont fully understand how to do it i read it all....

03-09-2008, 01:23 PM	#24
RaceFaceXC Scooby Specialist Member#: 165749 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: stupid Florida Vehicle: 2007 No YELLING on the bus!	do what? read what all?

03-09-2008, 01:24 PM	#25
williaty Scooby Guru Member#: 71092 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Delaware County, Ohio Vehicle: 2005 2.5RS Wagon Regal Blue Pearl	Search on RomRaider's forum, there's a thread about the MAF tool. Actually, I think there's at least 2 threads about it on here. It's pretty much plug and play, but you should probably read what the dev has to say about it.