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Old 03-17-2008, 09:06 PM   #1
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Default Bilsteins vs. GR2s - am I going to notice any difference

Hey guys.

I was all set to buy some Bilsteins when I got nervous after searching through the threads that I'm not going to see any difference between that and what I have now (Whitelines + GR2s). Can anyone put this issue to bed? Am I going to have a stiffer ride (which is what I want)? Or would I be better off getting some polyurethane bushings and a front sway bar to compliment the RSB and call it a day? I plan to autox the snot out of this car this summer and want to have a serious suspension. And no, I'm not doing Teins.

Your advice is appreciated.

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Old 03-17-2008, 09:15 PM   #2
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:20 PM   #3
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Thanks, but this is for a BE. I don't think Konis make struts for the BE, but I'd gladly be proven wrong.

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Old 03-17-2008, 09:36 PM   #4
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Bilsteins ARE serious suspension. If you autox the snot out of any car, there's not too many mass-produced shocks that are rebuildable that are better than Bilsteins.

I would run Bil's over Teins anyday.
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Old 03-18-2008, 12:28 AM   #5
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Hey guys.

I was all set to buy some Bilsteins when I got nervous after searching through the threads that I'm not going to see any difference between that and what I have now (Whitelines + GR2s). Can anyone put this issue to bed? Am I going to have a stiffer ride (which is what I want)? Or would I be better off getting some polyurethane bushings and a front sway bar to compliment the RSB and call it a day? I plan to autox the snot out of this car this summer and want to have a serious suspension. And no, I'm not doing Teins.

Your advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
JL
It's all in the damper settings and the ability of the suspension to retain those setting after repeated, constant use (like track days and stuff) Bilsteins are valved stiffer for both rebound and compression (I'm not sure how much stiffer TBH) than the GR2's and the monotube design (for the fronts at least, I think the rears are still regular dual like the stock stuff) is a more stouter design to keep the valve temps down and keep the valving the consistent even after some serious cycling from track use and the like.

For autox, I really don't think gr2 or bilstein will matter as much as the other more important mods, like tires, alignment, and swaybars (in order of importance). When you address the first three, then you may want to start thinking about the struts.
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Old 03-18-2008, 02:30 AM   #6
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with heavy auto-x/tracking the gr2s lasted me 3 years. they did the job, but good predictable tires would help much more. id say to spend the money from the struts into an extra few events if you have the time.

here is my car on gr2`s and whitelines. this is the sharp right at the end of the long straight at shannonville motorsports park. about 110km/h+ or so. pretty balanced, no complaints for the money spent.

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:17 PM   #7
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Hey Hiroki -

Great pic, good to see a BE on the track!

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:54 PM   #8
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yea that looks great loaded like that...how do the whitelines ride for the street?
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:21 PM   #9
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That does look good!

The H&R's are great for the street BTW. If I had to describe it, I'd say it rides like a truck, as you can feel more of the road, but it isn't harsh by any means, it's still smooth. Cruising on the highway is great.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:46 PM   #10
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I think Bilsteins are to soft. I think you will see the diff.
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:31 PM   #11
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I think Bilsteins are to soft. I think you will see the diff.
The bilsteins feel soft because they don't have all the extra high speed damping that you don't really need to handle well.
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