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Old 07-16-2002, 12:07 AM   #1
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I just got my new WRX about a week ago ( ) and I want to get a BOV and Turbo Timer. Just wondering if any of you have any suggestions on which ones. Thanks for any help.
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Old 07-16-2002, 12:13 AM   #2
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I've heard good things about the Forge BOV, no idle problems or anything.

TT? Umm, Blitz has a fairly popular one but they really aren't necessary on the WRX.
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Old 07-16-2002, 12:24 AM   #3
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TT? Umm, Blitz has a fairly popular one but they really aren't necessary on the WRX.
Why not? Just curious before I invest in one.

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Old 07-16-2002, 12:27 AM   #4
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Turbo Timer: The stock turbo doesn't need a turbo timer because the the liquid cooling continues to work after you shut down the water pump. That's why the coolant cap is mounted up high by the turbo - it's also a condensor that collects steam from the turbo coolant lines.

BOV: Realize that with the stock turbo, a BOV is only for looks and sound. If anything your car will run slightly worse with an 100% atmospheric BOV. If you must get a BOV, get a 50/50 recirculating one, or wait until you have an ECU that adjusts A/F ratio based on MAP instead of MAF.

My Suggestions: Get better tires and a rear swaybar. Replace your fluids with synthetics after a few 1000 miles. Try your hand at some autocrosses and have fun
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Old 07-16-2002, 12:30 AM   #5
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How much better will the synthetics make the car run? Where does everybody go for autocrosses?
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Old 07-16-2002, 12:43 AM   #6
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2-3 miles per gallon, maybe. But your car will break in and run more economically even without synthetic fluids, so it's hard to say. It's still a good idea.

I don't know where DFW has their autocrosses. Certainly somebody up that way knows.
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:03 AM   #7
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Turbo Timer: The stock turbo doesn't need a turbo timer because the the liquid cooling continues to work after you shut down the water pump. That's why the coolant cap is mounted up high by the turbo - it's also a condensor that collects steam from the turbo coolant lines.

BOV: Realize that with the stock turbo, a BOV is only for looks and sound. If anything your car will run slightly worse with an 100% atmospheric BOV. If you must get a BOV, get a 50/50 recirculating one, or wait until you have an ECU that adjusts A/F ratio based on MAP instead of MAF.

My Suggestions: Get better tires and a rear swaybar. Replace your fluids with synthetics after a few 1000 miles. Try your hand at some autocrosses and have fun
good advice for the new guys
save ur money for real mods right
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:12 AM   #8
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boost gauge and MBC(manual boost controler) and a BOV is not necessary.
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Old 07-16-2002, 09:52 AM   #9
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Well, I am sure they may not be neccessary but the Forge BOV that I installed seems to work quit nicely. It does keep my boost up better between shifts. And the added extra benefit of everytime I pass a V8 and shift they get that lovely sound of the H4 sighing. It is just weeping for those unsuspecting victoms. And my advice on the boost controller go with the Greddy Profec B. More money but well worth it if you are looking for more realiable power. Have fun either way. Z
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Old 07-16-2002, 10:50 AM   #10
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Get tires first. The stockers are only good for granny-driving.
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Old 07-16-2002, 11:40 AM   #11
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Get tires first. The stockers are only good for granny-driving.
They're also good for drifting. You have to drive a lot more insanely to break loose with high performance tires.
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Old 07-16-2002, 11:55 AM   #12
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My opinion is stay away from the MBC leave the tuning to the professionals. There are many posers out their installing MBCs and really compromising reliability. Talk to the guys at Cobb Tuning (www.cobbtuning.com) leave the tuning to them so you can concentrate on the driving and having fun part.
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Old 07-16-2002, 01:17 PM   #13
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so is a Turbo Timer completely unnecessary? I have a friend that wants to sell me a Apexi TT for $65. Do you think I should invest in that or just save that for better tires? Also where do you guys go to Autocross in DFW?
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Old 07-16-2002, 01:55 PM   #14
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I say no to the BOV and TT. Both are a waste IHMO.
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Old 07-16-2002, 01:59 PM   #15
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02WRXguy - Congratulations on the purchase. You'll have a lot of fun in your journey. Regarding the need (or lack thereof) for a turbo tiimer, as long as you drive the WRX nice enough for the last few minutes or miles before you turn it off, you should be in good shape. I guess that is why I never got around to installing the nice HKS turbo timer (with HKS wiring harness) that I bought a while back. BTW, if you still want one, just because you want one, that is cool, too. I have done a few things on my WRX that were simply because I wanted to, perhaps not totally necessary, and that is just part of each one of our cars being a personal statement and labor of love. Having said that, if you want to consider an alternative to the other TTs out there, my HKS turbo timer "Type 1" silver with WRX harness is still for sale at $85 (new in box and quite a bit lower than what I paid for it from Vivid Racing). Cheers, GoodFinder
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Old 07-16-2002, 05:53 PM   #16
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BOV: Realize that with the stock turbo, a BOV is only for looks and sound. If anything your car will run slightly worse with an 100% atmospheric BOV. If you must get a BOV, get a 50/50 recirculating one, or wait until you have an ECU that adjusts A/F ratio based on MAP instead of MAF.


Any word on anyone releasing a ECU that will do this yet? Or can this be done with the unichip?
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Old 07-16-2002, 10:29 PM   #17
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Just wanted to thank everybody for you help and saving me some money...
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Old 07-16-2002, 10:39 PM   #18
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Just wanted to thank everybody for you help and saving me some money...
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Old 07-16-2002, 11:01 PM   #19
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Just wanted to thank everybody for you help and saving me some money...
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Old 07-16-2002, 11:49 PM   #20
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Any word on anyone releasing a ECU that will do this yet? Or can this be done with the unichip?
It is possible with a Link or a TEC II. A creative tuner MIGHT be able to pull it off with just a Unichip but it'd be a kludge that just massages MAP and TPS data into something that the ECU thinks is MAF.

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