PSA: the results of bird poop

BirlyFive · 06-07-2008, 02:43 PM

Well. I was just washing my car this afternoon. (I'll just say right now that I don't take very good care of it.) I haven't hand washed it for at least 6 months, but it has been to a touchless car wash several times. So I realized today that's very dirty, and needs to be clay bared, but I've never done that before.

Even worse though, is this:

The results of a friendly bird from a few months ago. I did wash the poop off as soon as I noticed it (I don't see the car every day), but obviously it had been sitting on the car for way too long.

So I'm pretty sure that that's the clear coat peeling off.

Any advice on how to minimize damage? Should I just leave it alone? Try scratchX? Wax it? ...put some duct tape over it?

I just wanted to share these pictures in case anyone doesn't believe all the warnings about how bad bird poop is. It's bad.

Baay · 06-07-2008, 08:02 PM

acid poop ftl

STi22B · 06-07-2008, 08:04 PM

can you clay bar it off? I would try to clay bar as much of it off as possible then try some abrasive polish on it. ScratchX may help a little bit, but it probably won't make a big difference

Vew · 06-07-2008, 11:37 PM

Bird crap is pretty nasty stuff. This article made me realize how bad it really is.
http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-d...nt-clinic.html

saab-on-the-cobb · 06-07-2008, 11:46 PM

Yup.

**** happens.

Subaru paint + poop = fail.

Subaru paint + bugs = fail.

Subaru drivetrain FTW > Subaru paint FTL.

SOTC

Gfunk720 · 06-08-2008, 12:08 AM

Probably wont buff or clay out. When/if my car gets bird poop on it I clean it immediately....

As someone else said, bird poop can be highly acidic and damage clearcoats. If you left it on there for a few days or weeks, it might now be unrepairable damage

Baay · 06-08-2008, 02:38 AM

Secretly birds around the world assign one brave soul to drink a bottle of brake fluid and crap on as many cars as he can before they honor him by placing his dead carcass in your chimney so the next time to fire it up your whole damn house fills with smoke ...damn birds.

dbesins · 06-08-2008, 01:23 PM

clay+polish (if polish doesn't work go for compound) if that doesn't work (it should at least minimize it) nothing to do. Here the only thing you re looking for is if the bird dropings have eaten through all the clearcoat or not if not it is repearable. I see you re in maine, do you have a rotary or DA? if not let me know I am in MA

wonderbenn · 06-11-2008, 05:56 PM

Man I have the same problem on my trunk. The droppings were only there for a little while when it made a mark

02wrbrex · 06-11-2008, 06:07 PM

I really want to meet the marketing people for scratch-X and steal their ideas. EVERY single newb that has a question about paint is like "should i use scratch-X?"

2k2BlackWRX · 06-11-2008, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02wrbrex

I really want to meet the marketing people for scratch-X and steal their ideas. EVERY single newb that has a question about paint is like "should i use scratch-X?"

Every single thread that someone says they have a problem with their paint, you can guarantee that there will be at least 2 of the first 10 responses who tell them to clay it.

I find it humorous that people think clay fixes everything.

Phazewun · 06-11-2008, 09:59 PM

This just shows how retarded some people really are.... next time u should should wash it every so often.

you deserved this.

Jesse D. Weinberger · 06-14-2008, 03:55 PM

I dont think anyone deserves that, but c'mon, clean that crap up. Not a lot of people really think about the destructive power of bird crap until this happens.

Dingo · 06-14-2008, 04:14 PM

Try some SIP followed up with PO106ff and a nice glaze and wax. If that doesn't minimize it to your liking you might want to consider a body shop.

MichaelReth · 06-14-2008, 04:46 PM

I would try claying, and then try to get your hands on a random orbital buffer and try to polish it out and finish with a high quality wax.

jdubya301 · 06-14-2008, 07:19 PM

clay will not get rid of damaged clear coat.

a random orbit will not do the trick for that either. the paint needs to be metered, and a rotary with compound is the only thing that may clear that out.

suby wrecks · 06-16-2008, 03:51 PM

same thing happened on my car, but before i bought it. the size of a dime on the hood. i can tell you now, there is no product to fix that. repaint. sorry

TexSurfer · 06-16-2008, 06:53 PM

Lot of opinions here BirlyFive. How bout one more

Obviously without touching it myself its hard to say how severe. But by looking, and I have seen this before on a suby, I think it can be fixed. With suby paint it only takes a day in the sun to do this kind of damage. Six months or a day if an acid bug or bird bomb sits on suby paint you will get this damage. As we all know "suby paint FTL". But I have corrected these by hand with polish or paint cleaners, corrected them with an oribtal (not a cheap wally world one, but a qulity unit such as the PC), and some have required the use of a rotary. Someone stated that claying will not work and this is correct. I'm guessing you don't have an arsenal of products and equipment? Try picking up some scratchX and a MF applicator pad. Or one of the 3M polishes you can find at an auto parts store or wal-mart. Results will just depend on the severity of the bomb. If you don't get the results you want your best bet is to contact a pro detailer. I have a reference for you if you want it. But keep in mind most pros probably aren't going to come out just to fix a bird bomb for you. Probably will have to purchase a package deal that will include taking care of that for you. PM me if you want a contact. And let me know what area of ME.

Good luck.

AOmagman78 · 06-16-2008, 08:15 PM

Can we talk about how huge of a bird dump that is?Or at least it looks huge. I'm about to go wash my car right now, this was good motivation.

rallymarty · 06-20-2008, 12:27 AM

you could try to wet sand the paint with 2000+ paper and then buff it out. i really doubt that stain will come out completely, but a wet sand might clean it up a good bit.

you could also end up sanding through the clear and into the basecoat. be careful if you use this type of remedy. the oem base/clear is very thin.

i had the same type of issue with tree sap. i buffed, claybarred, waxed and the marks are still there

06-07-2008, 02:43 PM	#1
BirlyFive Scooby Newbie Member#: 119824 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Maine Vehicle: 2006 Outback Sport Black	PSA: the results of bird poop Well. I was just washing my car this afternoon. (I'll just say right now that I don't take very good care of it.) I haven't hand washed it for at least 6 months, but it has been to a touchless car wash several times. So I realized today that's very dirty, and needs to be clay bared, but I've never done that before. Even worse though, is this: The results of a friendly bird from a few months ago. I did wash the poop off as soon as I noticed it (I don't see the car every day), but obviously it had been sitting on the car for way too long. So I'm pretty sure that that's the clear coat peeling off. Any advice on how to minimize damage? Should I just leave it alone? Try scratchX? Wax it? ...put some duct tape over it? I just wanted to share these pictures in case anyone doesn't believe all the warnings about how bad bird poop is. It's bad.

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06-07-2008, 08:02 PM	#2
Baay Scooby Newbie Member#: 139645 Join Date: Feb 2007 Vehicle: 07 WRX UGM	acid poop ftl

06-07-2008, 08:04 PM	#3
STi22B Scooby Newbie Member#: 86906 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: San Francisco and Davis, CA Vehicle: 07 Scion tC Pearl White	can you clay bar it off? I would try to clay bar as much of it off as possible then try some abrasive polish on it. ScratchX may help a little bit, but it probably won't make a big difference

06-07-2008, 11:37 PM	#4
Vew Scooby Specialist Member#: 74229 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Morgantown, WV Vehicle: 2004 WRX PSM	Bird crap is pretty nasty stuff. This article made me realize how bad it really is. http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-d...nt-clinic.html

06-07-2008, 11:46 PM	#5
saab-on-the-cobb Scooby Specialist Member#: 116330 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: in a van, down by the river Vehicle: 1982 320/6 BMW eurospec	Yup. **** happens. Subaru paint + poop = fail. Subaru paint + bugs = fail. Subaru drivetrain FTW > Subaru paint FTL. SOTC

06-08-2008, 12:08 AM	#6
Gfunk720 Scooby Specialist Member#: 42549 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Yankees- World Champs 2009! CT Vehicle: 2005 STI Brahmobile 2008 Tundra SR5 V8	Probably wont buff or clay out. When/if my car gets bird poop on it I clean it immediately.... As someone else said, bird poop can be highly acidic and damage clearcoats. If you left it on there for a few days or weeks, it might now be unrepairable damage

06-08-2008, 02:38 AM	#7
Baay Scooby Newbie Member#: 139645 Join Date: Feb 2007 Vehicle: 07 WRX UGM	Secretly birds around the world assign one brave soul to drink a bottle of brake fluid and crap on as many cars as he can before they honor him by placing his dead carcass in your chimney so the next time to fire it up your whole damn house fills with smoke ...damn birds.

06-08-2008, 01:23 PM	#8
dbesins Scooby Newbie Member#: 136890 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: waltham MA	clay+polish (if polish doesn't work go for compound) if that doesn't work (it should at least minimize it) nothing to do. Here the only thing you re looking for is if the bird dropings have eaten through all the clearcoat or not if not it is repearable. I see you re in maine, do you have a rotary or DA? if not let me know I am in MA

06-11-2008, 05:56 PM	#9
wonderbenn Scooby Newbie Member#: 182157 Join Date: Jun 2008	Man I have the same problem on my trunk. The droppings were only there for a little while when it made a mark

06-11-2008, 06:07 PM	#10
02wrbrex Scooby Specialist Member#: 103061 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Kirkland Vehicle: 1990 Mazda Miata 1997 BMW Zed 3	I really want to meet the marketing people for scratch-X and steal their ideas. EVERY single newb that has a question about paint is like "should i use scratch-X?"

06-11-2008, 09:59 PM	#12
Phazewun NASIOC Supporter Member#: 169056 Join Date: Jan 2008 Chapter/Region: International Location: Orange County Vehicle: 2010 WRX Irvine subaru plates	This just shows how retarded some people really are.... next time u should should wash it every so often. you deserved this.

06-14-2008, 03:55 PM	#13
Jesse D. Weinberger Scooby Newbie Member#: 152294 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Tempe Vehicle: 03 WRX Silver	I dont think anyone deserves that, but c'mon, clean that crap up. Not a lot of people really think about the destructive power of bird crap until this happens.

06-14-2008, 04:14 PM	#14
Dingo Scooby Newbie Member#: 42736 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 2003 WRX WR Blue	Try some SIP followed up with PO106ff and a nice glaze and wax. If that doesn't minimize it to your liking you might want to consider a body shop.

06-14-2008, 04:46 PM	#15
MichaelReth * Banned * Member#: 182264 Join Date: Jun 2008 Vehicle: 2004 Wrx	I would try claying, and then try to get your hands on a random orbital buffer and try to polish it out and finish with a high quality wax.

06-14-2008, 07:19 PM	#16
jdubya301 Scooby Specialist Member#: 139076 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Scranton PA Vehicle: 2002 stg2 wagon 03 suzuki sv650s	clay will not get rid of damaged clear coat. a random orbit will not do the trick for that either. the paint needs to be metered, and a rotary with compound is the only thing that may clear that out.

06-16-2008, 03:51 PM	#17
suby wrecks Scooby Newbie Member#: 177693 Join Date: Apr 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Connecticut Vehicle: 2005 WRX PSM	same thing happened on my car, but before i bought it. the size of a dime on the hood. i can tell you now, there is no product to fix that. repaint. sorry

06-16-2008, 06:53 PM	#18
TexSurfer Scooby Specialist Member#: 76072 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Detailing cars in HOT TX sun	Lot of opinions here BirlyFive. How bout one more Obviously without touching it myself its hard to say how severe. But by looking, and I have seen this before on a suby, I think it can be fixed. With suby paint it only takes a day in the sun to do this kind of damage. Six months or a day if an acid bug or bird bomb sits on suby paint you will get this damage. As we all know "suby paint FTL". But I have corrected these by hand with polish or paint cleaners, corrected them with an oribtal (not a cheap wally world one, but a qulity unit such as the PC), and some have required the use of a rotary. Someone stated that claying will not work and this is correct. I'm guessing you don't have an arsenal of products and equipment? Try picking up some scratchX and a MF applicator pad. Or one of the 3M polishes you can find at an auto parts store or wal-mart. Results will just depend on the severity of the bomb. If you don't get the results you want your best bet is to contact a pro detailer. I have a reference for you if you want it. But keep in mind most pros probably aren't going to come out just to fix a bird bomb for you. Probably will have to purchase a package deal that will include taking care of that for you. PM me if you want a contact. And let me know what area of ME. Good luck.

06-16-2008, 08:15 PM	#19
AOmagman78 Scooby Newbie Member#: 182305 Join Date: Jun 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte / Columbia Vehicle: 2005 Impreza WRX Silver Metallic	Can we talk about how huge of a bird dump that is?Or at least it looks huge. I'm about to go wash my car right now, this was good motivation.

06-20-2008, 12:27 AM	#20
rallymarty Scooby Newbie Member#: 17418 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Columbia MO Vehicle: -> yield signs aren't suggestions	you could try to wet sand the paint with 2000+ paper and then buff it out. i really doubt that stain will come out completely, but a wet sand might clean it up a good bit. you could also end up sanding through the clear and into the basecoat. be careful if you use this type of remedy. the oem base/clear is very thin. i had the same type of issue with tree sap. i buffed, claybarred, waxed and the marks are still there