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Old 05-27-2008, 12:25 PM   #1
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Default Bi-xenon fogs in bugeye?

has anyone ever thought of wiring in a switch with an aftermarket hid fog setup to run bi-xenons?

get bi-xenon ballasts, attach to bulb like normal but with an extra wire going to a 2 way switch, allowing a person to either have the hi beam or the low beam on which it would just redirect the current. and you could still use the normal fog switch



has anyone tried this before?
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Old 05-27-2008, 03:28 PM   #2
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theres a thread called "another EYE transplant for my bugeye"

last saw it a little over a week ago in this forum, check that out, and talk to the OP with questions... hes got.. well just a LITTLE bit of experience... <-sarcasm
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:33 PM   #3
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has anyone ever thought of wiring in a switch with an aftermarket hid fog setup to run bi-xenons?

get bi-xenon ballasts, attach to bulb like normal but with an extra wire going to a 2 way switch, allowing a person to either have the hi beam or the low beam on which it would just redirect the current. and you could still use the normal fog switch



has anyone tried this before?

huh????? i read this about 10 times and it doesnt make sense to me.

bi-xenon refers to a projector that can be switched between low and high beam output, using 1 HID bulb.

are you saying you want the fog lights to turn on with the highbeams?
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Old 05-27-2008, 08:19 PM   #4
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no i mean have bi-xenon hid bulbs, put in place of the normal fog light bulbs and have a switch setup so you would be able to put the fogs on hi beam or lo beam just like the headlights


I think it would help while off-roading instead of buying new fogs and putting them in other places... instead of bumper beam fogs for instance
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Old 05-27-2008, 08:50 PM   #5
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Do they even make those "bi-xenon bulbs" in h3 form factor? And those bulbs most often are not hid high beams, some of them move the bulb/shield to make it brighter but many just have a halogen bulb attached to it which gives higher light.

Don't do it. It's not worth the time/money/effort for the mediocre results.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:25 PM   #6
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i'm not thinking of doing it I was just curious if someone had tried because I'll be doing an hid conversion/retrofit for my headlights using 6k bi-xenon bulbs and will be using a 3k hid bulb and ballasts for my fogs which will only be on in inclement weather
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:40 PM   #7
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ok ok i get what you are saying now...

sorrowful, you need to forget everything you think you know about HIDs. your plan is not a good one. im not trying to bash you, but help you spend your few hundred bucks in a responsible and safe manner


first of all you are talking about getting a "bi-xenon" hid kit.

they are complete S***. do NOT buy an HID kit. especially one described as "bi xenon". a Bi-xenon hid kit employs 2 hid capsules on one base. the arc of the bulbs are wayyyyyyyyy far away from the focal point of the headlight reflectors.

basically this means the light output will look like complete ass. trust me. regular HID kits are crap. a Bi-xenon kit will be 1000 times worse.

6000k is not a good choice for color temp. 4300k is the optimal color to get, and 5000k is a close competitor. again, 4300k provides the most useable light on the road. this is why most cars equipped with OEM hids use 4300k.

as for your fog lights. i dont think you understand what high and low beams are. highbeams are NOT just a higher power or second bulbs that are lit. they need to be precisely aligned in the headlight to project the light higher and farther.

you cant get xenon bulbs in an h3 foglight bulb configuration. its physically impossible. so with that said, a bi-xenon h3 hid bulb is definitely not possible.

back to the headlights, a second hid capsule in the stock bugeye lights will not make a high beam. it will just make a double power S***ty lowbeam that glares every bit of oncoming traffic to the point where they will probably drive into a tree.


take my advice. do NOT make this planned purchase of yours. take the time to do some research of proper 2002 lighting modifications. theres plenty of good ones.

to start, here is a retrofit i did. it cost me around 400 bucks.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1482552

also look into hella ff1000 driving lights and hella brackets. they mount right up to the stock location and look great.

please read this. i know its long.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:04 PM   #8
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As mentioned before Bi-xenon bulbs are a bad idea. Those with moving parts will most likely burnt out in less than a year.

Buy a set of bi-xenon projectors for retro-fit. If you DIY the whole thing it won't even cost that much either.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:59 PM   #9
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I get what you are saying I was just curious if it had been done and I wasn't thinking of getting bi-xenon hids for the fogs... and actually I was looking at your thread earlier and I was actually planning on doing exactly what you did....


I'm still not sure what I'll be doing about my fogs though... i want to get some really bright yellow fogs but don't want a yellow coating over them.
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NEvermind, misunderstood what you were trying to say. Good luck with that project, its not going to be cheap...

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Old 07-13-2008, 01:37 PM   #11
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you cant get xenon bulbs in an h3 foglight bulb configuration. its physically impossible.
Thats not true, I've seen plenty of H3 xenon bulbs. Personally I like the 3000K yellows the best for foglights, they're great in the rain.
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Thats not true, I've seen plenty of H3 xenon bulbs. Personally I like the 3000K yellows the best for foglights, they're great in the rain.
youre right, did find a set of stubby little h3 xenons. but man, i bet they kill any kind of flat foglight beam pattern
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youre right, did find a set of stubby little h3 xenons. but man, i bet they kill any kind of flat foglight beam pattern
I guess that would depend on what fog light you put them in, but I've had them in my stock Audi projector fogs and in a set of Eurolite elliptical fogs on my Subie and they're great. Although your right about the fact that nothing comes close to a real bi-xenon projector assembly thats designed specifically for xenon. It's 110% worth the extra cash and time involved in the swap for anyone looking for optimum performance. And the same goes for the 4300K as you stated earlier.
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