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Old 09-20-2008, 04:42 PM   #126
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wow havent heard that name in awhile. does john tomac ride anymore?

not professionally no..he does some work designing bikes still and keeps up appearances..he did some occasional tournament/classic stuff like the sea otter as recently as a couple years ago, but as for being sponsored, he's all done on year round competition..hell i think he's been in the mtb hall of fame for like 15 years or more and is 40 yrs old now
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Old 09-20-2008, 04:58 PM   #127
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i gave in and got the cannondale rize five yesterday, i took it out to some very mild stuff today and it's nice. i am looking forward to using it at vietnam saturday!
Did you get a black or copper rize? That bike has a nice spec for the money. What did you end up paying?
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #128
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copper there didn't have any black ones there. but they had a really nice white rize four there but it was 18 something, and i got it for 1179.00 before taxes. i hope i didn't pay to much...
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:20 AM   #129
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Yeah usually if you get 15 to 20% off a bike its a good deal. Congrats! Bring it to Highland now and have some fun
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:24 PM   #130
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I've worked summers in a ski/bike shop for the last 9 years while on "vacation" from teaching. I used to order bikes using employee purchase all the time, but prices have gotten a bit out of control. Even using EP, I still end up spending around $2500. It's way cheaper to just buy used online.
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Old 09-21-2008, 04:53 PM   #131
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I've worked summers in a ski/bike shop for the last 9 years while on "vacation" from teaching. I used to order bikes using employee purchase all the time, but prices have gotten a bit out of control. Even using EP, I still end up spending around $2500. It's way cheaper to just buy used online.
Buying online is tough. You really need to ride a bike for proper fitment. If you are patient you can find great deals. I bought a leftover 06 Rocky Mountain slayer at EMS for 1800$ the price tag was almost 3000$
Of course I replaced everything on it, but deals are out there. Especially now when it is end of season
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:00 PM   #132
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Yeah usually if you get 15 to 20% off a bike its a good deal. Congrats! Bring it to Highland now and have some fun
well see how i do at vietnam on it, highlands will prob be next summer since this season is just about over
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:09 PM   #133
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I've worked summers in a ski/bike shop for the last 9 years while on "vacation" from teaching. I used to order bikes using employee purchase all the time, but prices have gotten a bit out of control. Even using EP, I still end up spending around $2500. It's way cheaper to just buy used online.
ya i know 4 rear rims this year, 2 front. 2nd set of bars, 2 seats, god knows how many bearings for the pedals..
raced the US Open and one Mt Snow race... just too lazy and don't feel like spending $70 for an entry fee to do the rest. $35 to ride for fun is better.

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Old 09-22-2008, 05:47 AM   #134
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You really need to ride a bike for proper fitment.
I really don't entirely agree. I've purchased several used mountain bikes and frames online over the years without any problems (Santa Cruz Blur, Specialized Stumpjumper FSR, Specialized Demo 9, Specialized Enduro SX, Rocky Mountain ETSX, Turner DHR, Giant VT, Norco DH, Karpiel Disco Volante, to name a few). I generally ride large XC frames and medium DH frames. It's easy to tweak the geometry to your liking using different stems, seatposts, cranks, forks, headset spacers, etc... Like most lifelong avid cyclists, I've got bins full of bike parts lying around.

Road bikes are tougher to buy used online. I bought my Lemond Tete de Course based on very detailed geometry figures, but it still took a while to get the bike to feel right.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:44 AM   #135
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hate to ask a noobish question what what are the yellow things around the sprocket?
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:39 AM   #136
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believe they are to keep the chain from falling off.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:40 AM   #137
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:45 AM   #138
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$35 to ride for fun is better.
Or work PT at a bike shop and ride lift access for free

BTW, nice Iron Horse. Strange that they sold out to department stores. High end Iron Horse bikes will now only be available online through Randall Scott, which is owned by the son of the head of Iron Horse.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:27 AM   #139
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1312537

i thoguht this was my thread for a second
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:00 PM   #140
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prophet you should come ride with us this weekend. we have a mountain bike meet going on.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:54 PM   #141
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Or work PT at a bike shop and ride lift access for free

BTW, nice Iron Horse. Strange that they sold out to department stores. High end Iron Horse bikes will now only be available online through Randall Scott, which is owned by the son of the head of Iron Horse.
thanks ehh not really that strange about iron horse. The guy who turned iron horse around and turned it into the world cup powerhouse team that it was left. They were making less money as a botique (sp?) brand and the owners stepped in. There's a lot more to the story than that, but most of us who know the players in the game personally saw it coming. Now Turner has the DW link which is for the best. Evil bikes got sold to an investor out in Washington state and that's supposedily back on the rise. Specialized is back in the game and is gonna have a world cup team again as well as Trek. So, our sport is hopefully coming back up to the glory days of the '90s i hope.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:09 PM   #142
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is it worth it to get rid of the 3rd sprocket up front for a bash guard? i am gunna be using my bike for XC and downhill
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:15 AM   #143
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IMO, yes on swapping the big ring for a bashguard. However, not all bikes can handle DH. Steep, rocky, technical trails can tear apart XC bikes pretty quickly. I see it happen all the time at lift accessed areas. People show up with XC bikes and end up walking down the hill with taco'd front wheels, flat tires, blown out forks, etc... It's better to rent a DH bike for the day if you don't have one and save your own for XC riding.
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:45 AM   #144
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well i dunno if i would so much as classify it as XC, more like local trail riding. i have the cannondale rize five. i think cannondale classifies it as a "all mountain: bike.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:10 AM   #145
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I put a bashguard on my bike at the end of last season and it's saved me a few walking-home trips. Bottomed out on a couple good rocks and treestumps that would've mangled the chainring, but the bashguard took it like a champ. I didn't go any higher than the 2nd chainring anyways during trail riding.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:43 AM   #146
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I have yet to put a bash guardon my trail rig, but a MRP Mini-G is on my list of to-get's. Unless you're gonna be bombing down fire roads there is really no reason for the top sprocket. For most trail riding you should only need the middle ring, and maybe the granny gear for the BIG climbs. (I try to stay away from those)
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so if im using my bike for local riding and some downhill with good size jumps and drops it would be best to get a bash guard. what kind of bike(s) do you have dhgurs?
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:28 PM   #148
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prophet you should come ride with us this weekend. we have a mountain bike meet going on.
my wedding is less then a month away so i am a week deep into my mtb ban. i am turning my focus to freeski mode unless there is lift assisted riding in november anywhere
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:31 PM   #149
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Evil bikes got sold to an investor out in Washington state and that's supposedily back on the rise.
Evil is also receiving a DW designed suspension frame. if it is DW-Link or some other amazing design remains to be seen i believe.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:53 PM   #150
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so if im using my bike for local riding and some downhill with good size jumps and drops it would be best to get a bash guard. what kind of bike(s) do you have dhgurs?
I have an Iron Horse Sunday for downhill.

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And for trail riding I have a Gary Fisher Hi-fi Pro, which has VERY similar geometry to your Rize/


My 3rd ring on my Hifi is destroyed because I've never had a bash guard.
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