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Old 10-24-2008, 04:22 PM   #1
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Default 08/09 STI hill assist override/disable

Just thought I would share the procedure with all the people including myself that hate this feature.
Stop your vehicle in a flat area, apply parking brake and turn engine off.
Restart engine.
Press VDC button and hold until disabled.Do not take finger off the button.
The light will go yellow, green and it will turn off.
Within 5 seconds of of VDC light turning off, release the button.
Within 2 seconds of releasing button, press the VDC button again and and a hill assist light will illuminate on the dash.
Turn off engine.
Restart engine.
Presto!
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:39 PM   #2
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Can't wait to try this one in a few minutes
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:56 PM   #3
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i'll betcha this is a trick- it'll make your car explode

actually, i wonder if this'll work on the 08 WRX... hmm...
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:50 PM   #4
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Didnt work for me... option on 09 only?


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Just thought I would share the procedure with all the people including myself that hate this feature.
Stop your vehicle in a flat area, apply parking brake and turn engine off.
Restart engine.
Press VDC button and hold until disabled.Do not take finger off the button.
The light will go yellow, green and it will turn off.
Within 5 seconds of of VDC light turning off, release the button.
Within 2 seconds of releasing button, press the VDC button again and and a hill assist light will illuminate on the dash.
Turn off engine.
Restart engine.
Presto!
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:58 PM   #5
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I think it may be an 09 trick. I posted in the hill assist thread on IWSTI and the 08 guys could not get it to work.
I'll do some more digging with my friend the regional manager.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:54 PM   #6
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Why wouldn't you like that feature?
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:55 PM   #7
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I have it on the 2009 Forester and it really works. At least in the parking lot. About 2-3 seconds. I like it.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:03 PM   #8
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If you like to drive stick and hav NO issues with hills its a pain in the ass!
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:48 PM   #9
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hmm... doesnt work for me
the only way I know is to release the brake before selecting a gear.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:36 PM   #10
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I couldn't get it to work on my 09 WRX. When I hold down the VSA button when I turn the car back on, it just turns on a the yellow light like it would when it is off, and then a few seconds later the light turns off. When I press it again after that nothing happens. I actually can't even turn the VSA back off and on after that unless I restart the car. Maybe it's a different procedure for the WRX trims.

I've gotten used to the hill assist honestly. It holds a little bit longer than I would like, but it's a pretty minor annoyance that I have to deal with like two or three times a week at most. Still, I'd like to turn it off if I can.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:46 PM   #11
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I've never had it come on
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:58 PM   #12
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Just thought I would share the procedure with all the people including myself that hate this feature.
Stop your vehicle in a flat area, apply parking brake and turn engine off.
Restart engine.
Press VDC button and hold until disabled.Do not take finger off the button.
The light will go yellow, green and it will turn off.
Within 5 seconds of of VDC light turning off, release the button.
Within 2 seconds of releasing button, press the VDC button again and and a hill assist light will illuminate on the dash.
Turn off engine.
Restart engine.
Presto!
I'm going to try this tomorrow... I have an 08 STI though and seems people aren't having any luck...

If you figure out how to disable on 08s please let us know. I can't stand it. I've driven standard cars my whole life, and it's more of a pain than of any use. I wouldn't mind the feature if I could disable it, but always on is lame.
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Old 10-25-2008, 08:42 AM   #13
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My friend is the regional manager for Subaru in Atlantic Canada, he turned me on to this.
He mentioned that the dealer can adjust the sensitivity of the system if it is too aggressive. I'm convinced there is a defeat procedure for the 08's as well.
I'll look into it.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:50 AM   #14
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If you like to drive stick and hav NO issues with hills its a pain in the ass!
What does it do that's such a pain in the ass?

I've never driven anything with the new system. I liked the old system though.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:57 AM   #15
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what exactly does the hill assist do?


and someone called the 04's old yesterday...now i take offense to that
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:23 PM   #16
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the hill assist works by applying the brakes when the car is on a hill (incline or decline). It comes on once the brake pedal is depressed and a gear is selected. It does not work if the brake pedal is released prior to selecting a gear.
Here is the annoying part. It's on a timer, not by sensing clutch engagement. I'm experienced enough to begin engaging the clutch even before the system releases the brakes. Therefore, I will be just sitting there w/ my clutch engaging and car not moving. This kind of wears out the clutch even if it's only a little bit.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:41 PM   #17
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So it will ALWAYS hold the brakes for X amount of time?

I can see how that is very annoying...
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:57 PM   #18
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Wow, that sucks. I was glad to hear they brought it back but that's pretty lousy compared to the old clutch-released system.
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Old 10-25-2008, 05:01 PM   #19
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if the system does hold the brakes, then yes, it will always hold for about 2 seconds or so. As I stated before, there are ways around it. Some noobie manual drivers actually like it, but it's an odd feeling for those that are used to the car rolling.
Here's another example: usually if the car is on an incline, the car would roll backwards. And when starting from a stop, not rolling backwards once the brake pedal or handbrake is released usually means the clutch is engaging. So at 1st, I used to release the clutch a bit quicker b/c the car wasnt going backwards, that lead to a few near stall instances.
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Old 10-25-2008, 05:28 PM   #20
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The hill holder itself is nothing new they had them in 1984. The new thing is that its not mechanical anymore having it be electronic with a computer telling how long for it to hold instead of it kicking on/off (depends on how you look at it) the moment you touch the gas is the pita for me.

Beware though, if you disable it and have a clutch issue in a town with a lot of hills they dealer could have a leg to say they wont warranty a clutch failure.

There are PLENTY of people that think they know how to drive stick that don't. I ride with them on a weekly basis. They complain that the car smells funny, complain the clutch failed prematurely, jam the car into a gear coming down thru gears too fast, etc.
The fact that a syncro had to be added to 1st gear is proof of that. (although I really do like that!).
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:04 PM   #21
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i guess no reads the manual the car comes with???

believe it or not, it helps to read it... there is about a whole page about hill Assist.. telling you how to turn it off/on.....
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:35 PM   #22
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i guess no reads the manual the car comes with???

believe it or not, it helps to read it... there is about a whole page about hill Assist.. telling you how to turn it off/on.....
Show me in the 2008 STI manual where it tells me this information Thanks. (BTW, it doesn't )

That is why we are having this discussion, is it only an option for the 2009 models or is it possible on the 2008 models.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:30 AM   #23
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i guess no reads the manual the car comes with???

believe it or not, it helps to read it... there is about a whole page about hill Assist.. telling you how to turn it off/on.....
Did you get it to work in your WRX? The manual says for WRX STI, not the WRX and STI, so I am assuming that this won't work for the non-sti versions. It's in there int he 09 manuals though.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:50 AM   #24
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I believe that it is in the 09 manual, so I am thinking this is something new. I am HOPING it is something that can be upgraded on the 08 owners cars.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:39 PM   #25
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Disabling Hill Start Assist is possible only on STI model and results in instrument panel warning light staying on when you drive.



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