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Old 01-17-2009, 02:22 PM   #26
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:13 PM   #27
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Good luck Greg.....looks like its going to be tasty....oh and don't mind KC...he just shot his wad and is over in the corner cowering..

Yep..ESP is going to be interesting this year...esp since they opened up the Brakes and cooling....

Good luck ..if you need anything....holler....

(ESP with a great setup in a WRX and a Good driver is almost a shoe in...)

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Old 01-18-2009, 10:57 AM   #28
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Thanks for the words of encouragement fella's.

It's helpful as I begin to lose the fire during a long winter here. There is so much small, time consuming little crap it's annoying.


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Old 01-20-2009, 02:26 PM   #29
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Great thread Greg! Looking forward to seeing this in action!!
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:19 PM   #30
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very nice
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:01 AM   #31
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I love this stuff...b/c I can't take the time and effort to do it myself yet, however the end product is SaWEET...

Thanks for your time to post...

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Old 02-11-2009, 07:40 AM   #32
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I'm hoping to be able to update over the next week or so. I've been waiting on quite a few things.

If all goes well maybe I'll be able to scoot around the neighborhood next week or the week after.

This week I have to re-install the intake, make some mounts for the spearco intercooler, tiddy up some engine bay wiring, install (lca) offset bushings, install suspension (if I recieve it), have tires mounted, double check all fasteners. Still have to change the abs motor......that will be fun, er messy.

After that I can drop the trans and remove the rear diff.

Thanks fo rthe interest...I'l definetly be updating soon.

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Old 02-11-2009, 07:40 AM   #33
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Can you talk about why you decided against the 35/65 and what the other people said. And why the 1.5 clutch rear?

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Old 02-15-2009, 11:55 AM   #34
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Can you talk about why you decided against the 35/65 and what the other people said. And why the 1.5 clutch rear?

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The 35/65 has been shown not to reduce front wheel spin. That would be one of the main attributes, for me, of wanting or running one. In addtion to not reducing front wheel spin, lap times dropped by going back to the factory center diff. That and cost are my main reasons for not pursuing it. These results/testing are not mine but someone I trust greatly. They also come from road racing tests. I believe the results would not improve due to auto-x's even quicker transitions. If you couple that with the fact that if you didn't have the correct dyno to tune you with a 35/65 (We do have a mustang locally that would work) it may make the decision easier. Not saying your car needs tuned for a 35/65 but it's something to think about.

The clutch style rear is just a compromise. I do not want decel lock-up that may induce corner entry push. Looking at the others that's what I opted for. I'm not sure it's the best decision but like I said compromise. I like the fact that you can add/reduce clutch plates and go either way you'd like. Once I'm able to do some solid testing I may just do that.

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Old 02-15-2009, 12:28 PM   #35
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I have a question for you guys. How do I get the cruise to work through the standard 2002 dash switch?

I'll post the diagrams when I get the chance, but here's the deal. I don't know what model year they put the on/off switch in the end of the stalk but they did. My basic premise was to take the (2) wires that comprise the on/off portion, intercept them at the column, and run them back to the dash swithch.

There are a couple issues. The wires I'm dealing with are the GB and GL both the same for the 2002 and 2007. Both are powered from the same fuse. The difference is that the GL on the 2007 runs to the ecu while on the 2002 it runs to the CC unit.

The GB is constanly powered from the ignition and although the diagram shows 6 wires there is actually only 4 in the 2002 harness. V, OrW, GB, and GL. V and OrW are only for illumination. The way the switch used to work was if pushed in the "indicator" would illuminate until shut off by brake, etc. Now when I push the swith in it does not hold on. The GL wire will only be powered if you keep the switch depressed. The indicator light will never come on. I have not been able to test if it actually works if you hold the switch in yet, my assumption is that it won't.

Another issue is that even though the GB wire runs through the brake and clutch switch, it is not the one that breaks contact once the, brake/clutch, switch is open. Which tells me even if I could get it to work, hitting the brakes, etc would not turn it off. Weird. I have a feeling the 02 switch was powered in another manner as the GL ran through the Integrated Body Unit. I've tested the (2) open terminals to see how they'd react to being powered. Nothing

I could not graph the 2007 stalk into the 2002 wheel.

Why am I doing this. I don't like the 2007 steering wheels and I need the cruise to function so I can use the launch control through the AP. That and if I were to sell the car I want everything to function as though it was built that way, otherwise I'd just put a rocker switch in there.

I'm at a loss. I'll continue to search. Maybe I need to look to the dash portion of the 2007 wiring as that's where the indicator and set lights illuminate.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:37 PM   #36
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How does the launch control work on the AP? It's not a 2 step revlimiter is it?

Oh, and try to contact Steve (zzyzx) about the 35/65 center diff if you havent already.

See ya,
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Old 02-16-2009, 08:37 AM   #37
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How does the launch control work on the AP? It's not a 2 step revlimiter is it?

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It's all clicks and buzzes to me.

I'm not sure how it works technically. It does use the cruise control function to set it however. There is a sequence you go through and then you can adjust your chosen launch rpm via the cruise stalk. Once set it is where it is until, I'd think, until the ecu loses power. Pretty sweet - building boost w/out having to use the bounce method that I actually quite like.

I actually installed the 2007 cluster they sent and guess what. Push switch and cruise light comes on in the cluster. Not having the stupid little light work on the dash switch is no biggie.

Yeah for ghetto engineering.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:30 AM   #38
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Ooohh.....it may use the cruise solenoid to hold the throttle at a certain point while retarding the timing to maximixe exhaust pressure and heat into the turbonium.....

Kewl stuff!

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Old 02-26-2009, 12:16 AM   #39
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cars lookin good!
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:39 AM   #40
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Thanks.

The helical diff is on it's way so maybe I'll have something to do this weekend. I'll post with updates.

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Old 02-26-2009, 08:47 AM   #41
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Ooohh.....it may use the cruise solenoid to hold the throttle at a certain point while retarding the timing to maximixe exhaust pressure and heat into the turbonium.....

Kewl stuff!

Jay
I'm not up to date on my launch control, but I thought the V2 AP only did it for factory 2.5L engines with the DBW throttle. They might've updated it to work for cable TB's though.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:56 AM   #42
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Saw this car in person the other day. Very impressive work! This will be a beast on any auto-x course.... Road course as well...
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:02 PM   #43
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I gots some questions...


Front LSD brand? (you mentioned rear was cusco)
Wheels/tires? (you said no 15x10)
Total weight?
Did you reinstall all the sound deadening stuff inside? (no cheating now! j/k)

I was told by Jorge @ P&L that the launch control wasn't worth worrying about. I realize for prosolo it might be worth it, but he stated that over time (like a year or two of consistent usage) that it would eventually lead to a blown engine. I'm yet to run a course outside the central illinois group (my former region) where launch control would have added a benefit.

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Old 02-26-2009, 05:36 PM   #44
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I gots some questions...


Front LSD brand? (you mentioned rear was cusco)
Wheels/tires? (you said no 15x10)
Total weight?
Did you reinstall all the sound deadening stuff inside? (no cheating now! j/k)

I was told by Jorge @ P&L that the launch control wasn't worth worrying about. I realize for prosolo it might be worth it, but he stated that over time (like a year or two of consistent usage) that it would eventually lead to a blown engine. I'm yet to run a course outside the central illinois group (my former region) where launch control would have added a benefit.

Oh, and you need one of these:



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hopefully still ~ my 2900 STX weight. I'll have to see when I get it on some scales.
It's legal. I never removed any sound deadning stuff Will see what ends up being questionable.

I think LC would be advantageous only at pro-solos.

Greg

Nice plate. Mail it to me!!!!!!
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:15 PM   #45
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Bump for some diff updates post #6
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Old 02-28-2009, 06:24 PM   #46
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Wow, a very nice walk thru on the diff install. Now when are you going to come over and put my engine in?!?!?!
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:35 PM   #47
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Better read up on the launch control in SP. 2 step revlimiters are verboten if they act as a traction control device....as much as it pained me to leave the clutch switch wire off my standalone ECU for LC and flat-foot shifting. Thinking about it more.....LC in my car wouldn't necessarily be a traction control device. I don't make enough power to sit and smoke the tires.....but launching would be alot more consistant.

Big ol props for the tranny stand!!!! My peabrain never comes up with ideas like this until after the fact....


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I'll be seeing you at a couple of pro-solos. Look for the slow blue ESP car with red numbers.

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Old 03-03-2009, 06:02 PM   #49
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I'll be seeing you at a couple of pro-solos. Look for the slow blue ESP car with red numbers.

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I look forward to meeting you. Did you get my pm awhile back?

I certainly don't think there are any guarantees with what I'm doing. I've been wanting to move for a few years.......so know I can build the car I've wanted for awhile. And get off those cheap street tires.


Hopefully my gearbox doesn't go boom at an important event.
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Old 03-05-2009, 09:55 AM   #50
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Sure did thanks!

ESP is a fun class. IMO, ESP is the near perfect balance of having a fully class prepped car that can win that is also daily driveable without too many sacrifices. ST* leaves out the fun of messing with boost and SM is too hardcore (at the fully prepped level) to be bearable for much long distance driving.

My trans has been fine for 2 years of AX, 1 year with R-comps. I launch it hard (the wheels chirp) but let out the clutch smoothly and evenly. A guy from Buffalo I've AX'd with a few times (sureshot007) uses launch control on his 02 and leaves some stripes and has been fine. He said to just let it out smoothly, but quickly, and you'll be fine. I'm with you on the apprehension of it breaking (especially because this is my only car ).

I don't have diffs, and certainly could use them. We'll see what happens.
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