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Old 03-12-2009, 11:33 AM   #1
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We have been hard at work this winter working on some projects

This is my STI with Cosworth engine internals and sleeves

On my STI I went with the excelently executed APS TSR70 turbo kit which I upgraded to a FP HTA86













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Old 03-12-2009, 11:33 AM   #2
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This is a customer's car we are building at the same timw which has the same sleeves and Cosworth internals. The attention to detail and quality of attention to detail is really superb on this car. Our Ferrari master technician has been working very hard on this build.















I'll have more updates and videos, etc as we get these cars broken in and onto the dyno

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Old 03-12-2009, 12:21 PM   #3
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looking good so far AL
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:02 PM   #4
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I take it you're still using the T3 flange? What exhaust housing?

Who makes those sleeves?

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Wat? If you ask me it's got some serious issues. T3 flange, contorted downpipe, header cracking issues. Although, I suppose it's cheap in comparison to a UR or FR setup. Hope it works out for ya.

Should be interesting to see the results of a big HTA comp running twinscroll.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:31 PM   #5
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^^^I know Al's car has Darton sleeves and I'm sure the other car is the same.

Cars are looking sick as always.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:41 PM   #6
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pretty sure he switched over to AEBS sleeves.
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:18 PM   #7
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I take it you're still using the T3 flange? What exhaust housing?

Who makes those sleeves?



Wat? If you ask me it's got some serious issues. T3 flange, contorted downpipe, header cracking issues. Although, I suppose it's cheap in comparison to a UR or FR setup. Hope it works out for ya.

Should be interesting to see the results of a big HTA comp running twinscroll.
A few things about the APS turbo kit and APS parts

From what I have seen they make the best designed and highest quality parts for Subarus

I know that their old design headers had some cracking issues but this is a new design and I have seen many olther brand headers crack as well

Although the down pipe does have a turn in it given its diameter and design I don't feel it will have a significant impact on performance

The back housing is a T3 1.06 twin scroll which is capable to run high 8's / low 9's on an Evo and make mid 700 whp which is the goal of this car

After installing the APS turbo kit, I am very pleased with the fit, design, value and I would not consider changing it. Even if I loose a few whp on the down pipe bend its well worth it to have a uppipe flange that wont pop out and leak every two weeks and having serious well designed turbo supports, etc

We'll see how the project turns out
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:20 PM   #8
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pretty sure he switched over to AEBS sleeves.
Correct

We no longer use Darton sleeves and will not recomend them - the AEBS is vastly superior in every respect
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:27 PM   #9
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It will be interesting to see the difference between the car with the Magnus intake and the stock one. I haven't heard many good things about the Magnus one.
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:50 PM   #10
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that is a very colorful engine
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Old 03-12-2009, 03:11 PM   #11
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so much money just in this picture haha....I am freaking jealous!

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Old 03-12-2009, 03:42 PM   #12
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Where's the proven power? Pretty pics are already up in the Built Motor discussion or are we advertising here, again .

Just saying...

I seriously doubt mid 700hp on most dynos.
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Old 03-12-2009, 03:46 PM   #13
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Looks great, I can't wait to see how they run at the dragstrip!
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:04 PM   #14
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nice build, suby's been making more $ then ferrari lately huh
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:26 PM   #15
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Where's the proven power? Pretty pics are already up in the Built Motor discussion or are we advertising here, again .

Just saying...

I seriously doubt mid 700hp on most dynos.
By just looking at the pics you can feel the power

Any videos? When it will be running? I want to see this car kill George's bimmer
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:38 PM   #16
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What brand cores do the APS intercoolers use? Are they good at reducing temps from what you've seen Al... say compared to a buschur race fmic for the evo?
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:53 PM   #17
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pretty sure he switched over to AEBS sleeves.
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We no longer use Darton sleeves and will not recomend them - the AEBS is vastly superior in every respect
I stand corrected.

Al used to have Darton sleeves.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:52 PM   #18
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Where's the proven power? Pretty pics are already up in the Built Motor discussion or are we advertising here, again .

Just saying...

I seriously doubt mid 700hp on most dynos.
Thanks for the negative comments and serious doubt!

Its one killer project no matter how you look at it. I'm sure most of us can appreciate a build of this magnitude. It takes Time! Vids and dyno graphs will be posted soon enough, just enjoy all the nice pics until then!
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:49 PM   #19
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It will be interesting to see the difference between the car with the Magnus intake and the stock one. I haven't heard many good things about the Magnus one.
The Magnus Intake has worked really well on Subaru applications

While it is always a pain in the ass to install and requires careful attenton to porting to match the injector and head - it has consistantly performed really well in terms of power delivery

The one with the Magnus intake is our customer's car which

Also has the P & L Turbo Kit which is certainly a really impressive unit

The materials, contruction and design are great - I will take a few shots of the turbo kit later this evening

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Old 03-12-2009, 07:52 PM   #20
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What brand cores do the APS intercoolers use? Are they good at reducing temps from what you've seen Al... say compared to a buschur race fmic for the evo?
Nothing is close to a genuine Garret fmic core used in the Buschur Race FMIC

I am hoping that the APS unit performs well based on its sheer size. I have had good results with it on various customer builds in the past - however - I never logged the data to test its efficency.

I will be pushing it on my car and will report honest results.

if it doesn't work it will get tossed.

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Old 03-12-2009, 07:53 PM   #21
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We have been hard at work this winter working on some projects

This is my STI with Cosworth engine internals and sleeves

On my STI I went with the excelently executed APS TSR70 turbo kit which I upgraded to a FP HTA86
Are they wet sleeves?
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Old 03-12-2009, 07:54 PM   #22
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Where's the proven power? Pretty pics are already up in the Built Motor discussion or are we advertising here, again .

Just saying...

I seriously doubt mid 700hp on most dynos.
Don't worry we will be getting these cars on the dyno shortly.

I am very exicted about these cars and wanted to share the results.

We have a '08 build with HKS parts and a P & L turbo kit and fmic in the works also that will get a V Pro. Lots of nice Subaru projects.

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Old 03-12-2009, 07:55 PM   #23
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what exhaust manifold is on the sti
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:01 PM   #24
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what exhaust manifold is on the sti
Mine has the APS EL

The Blue engine STI has the 3 bolt GT Spec header coated
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:18 PM   #25
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Very very nice parts! it looks like its coming together very well.

Good luck on the build! I can't wait to build my suby
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