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Old 03-27-2009, 10:06 AM   #1
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This is an idea from EVOM .
First, I just want to call out all the haters that flame me to hell when I wanted to run E85 like 3 years ago. I made my first request for help on how to run 100% E85 on 03-14-2007 .

E85 is proven it works on Subaru's as well as on EVOs ^ so E85 FTW . I want to make a compilation of cars with different setups that run 100% E85. This thread can be useful to other members that want to run E85, as a minimum I would you to include:

1) Your injectors size
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it),
3) Elevation
4) Turbo

Hey guys I am going to try to update page one, but from now on I want you guys to give me your info in this format:

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7. 460whp 452wtq /mick_the_ginge /03 WRX wagon/ EJ257 + 35R .82 AR/times if u have them /1100cc + 75% /600 ft
List has been updated 06/16/10


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E98
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people in the midwest can get E98........if i ever get the ballz to store ten 55 gallon drums in my garage thats what im gonna have delivered

E98 Racing Fuel
INJECTORS

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Originally Posted by Phatron;

Here are some quality well priced injectors that I Juan Medina use with great success 1200cc Top Feed

our account with these guys is in the works right now

1000cc Top Feed

1000cc Side Feed

1200cc Top Feed

1200cc Side Feed

1600cc Top Feed

2000cc Top Feed
Info about people that want to use the top feed injectors with a side feed setup

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No Im sorry but thats not really fair and will stray folks away from agood injectors.

Considering I have purchased both Id1000 and FiveO's also have a set of the 1200 going into the car soon.

From what you said in the other thread is you were not comfortable with splicing 2 wires per injector. So instead of doing a lil research you canned the FiveO's and spent close to 200 bucks more, and prob a extra 50 for the plug and play connector, all because your afraid of a few wires. All you had to do is cut of the side side feed plug and wire on a topfeed one.

Now thats completely fine, BUT dont make it seem there was something wrong worth them.

Im sorry to come off rash...

Once again sorry to sound like a jerk, but you make it sound like the injectors are not good, but infact your not good with wiring something that is very basic in fact.

Which is ok but dont make it sound like the latter.
RECOMMEDED INJECTOR SIZE DEPENDING ON TURBO SIZE

This is only a recommendation to minimize cost and maximize benefits, taking in consideration different setups and geographic location.

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My injector table would go like this. With the cost difference between the sizes and the good tunability of the injectors now days there is no reason not to go big.

44lb/min and under (20g or smaller) - 1200cc

44-52 lb/min (20g to gt30) - 1600cc

52+ lb lb/min - 1600 - 2000cc
SPARK PLUGS GAPS RECOMMENDED


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ngk stock# 2309(lfr7aix) hta86 30psi 100% e85 no blowout,but once the air temps from colder weather start dropping the idle is still 14.4-14.8 but does not seem as smooth,a little more lopey.I think its due to ethanol's cold nature and when air temps get colder the fuel does not want to atomize and stay suspended as well with the in coming air charge.To greenracer it looks like going to a non iridium plug might have caused your issues,maybe.I still believe in running an ignition booster,just my .02.oh almost forgot .025 gap
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^^^I also had good luck with stock heat range plugs ngk stock#6619 with no blowout,just decided to run 1 step colder for safety at the power I am at right now but like I posted above when temps drop I would recommend running stock heat range to keep more heat in the cylinder,remember heat is energy and with e85 burning cooler and colder outside air temps the added heat will help startups and driveability.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:06 AM   #2
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 POWER              /     NAME    /     Subaru Type   /Engine-Turbo Setup     / ET   1/8 &   1/4 mile    /  INJECTOR SIZE + IDC/ ELEVATION 

1. 752whp 605wtq        /bertune          /04 WRX STI  / EJ257 + P6765 / 10.1@143 with 631whp 463wtq        /1600 cc maxed            /0 ft
2. 586whp ???wtq        /billionaire7     /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + GT4088 1.08 AR /                           /1600 cc               /5300 ft
3. 577whp 461wtq       /crystal_imprezav /05 STi/ EJ257 + HTA3586 .82 AR        / 10.1@137              /1680cc Maxed Out    /1600 ft
4. 551whp 485wtq         /jasv11           /95 Impreza   / EJ257 + 6262 .82 AR      /9.9 at 141 MPH/ID2000's                            /700 ft
5. 550whp 480wtq          / Scuba Steve   /04 WRX STI  / EJ257 + 35R .82AR" /                               /1680 cc + 88%         /6200 ft
6. 546whp 440wtq         / 06rexwagon     /06 WRX wagon/ EJ255 + Dom4       /       11.69@122mph            /960 cc + 95%          /5400 ft
7. 527whp 487wtq        /   cnstman       /04 WRX STI  / EJ257 + 35R .82 AR"  /6.89@104mph 10.74@126.2mph   /1100 cc + 95%         /6200 ft
8. 508whp 495wtq         / swiftwrx1      /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + gt65       /                               /1100 cc + 85%            /0 ft
9. 474whp/473wtq         /amalgrover     /02 wrx wagon  /EJ257+FPRed/                                       /1250cc+98%              /200ft
10. 460whp 452wtq         /mick_the_ginge  /03 WRX wagon/ EJ257 + 35R .82 AR                                 /1100cc + 75%           /600 ft 
11. 440whp 339wtq        /rexblake         /02 WRX      / EJ207sb ej205 heads+ dom 3.0xt-r                   /1000cc at 90%          /5000ft
12. 430whp 430wtq         /reddevil        /90 Legacy wagon/ej25 +ebay T3/T4     /12.55 @ 117.69             /850cc
13. 425whp 420wtq @20psi DD/adamlavender   /02 WRX Sedan/EJ257 Hybrid 3076R .82                              /1100cc + 65%          /6500ft
14. 423whp 430wtq           / ewinters    / 07 STI     / EJ257 + ATP3071R                                   /1100cc + 85%           /900 ft  
15. 409whp 394wtq          /pignoseSTI    /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + 3076R .63 AR  /                            /1200cc +               /120 ft
16. 370whp 340wtq    /BenGSX (aka Bouncer)/05 WRX Wagon/ EJ205 + FP 68HTA        / 11.98@119.08             /850cc + MAXED          /100 ft
17. 364whp 369wtq         /thorne         /03 WRX      / EJ205+ej22e + 18g   / 7.962@88.40 12.361@112.23    /823cc + 92%           / 
18. 363whp 460wtq          /ChandlerWRX06 /06 WRX      / EJ255 + VF39     /8.69@83.27mph 13.29@112.83mph    /850cc + 75%           /1100 ft
19. 362whp 321wtq       /Falxzzr          /05 WRX     / EJ205 + hta68 /                                    / 750cc dws +90%       / 600ish feet
20. 360whp 382wtq            /AWD_Ball     /07 WRX      / EJ255 + VF39 /                                      /750cc + 85% IDC      /400 ft
21. 359whp 398wtq           /wrxtuner13   /10 WRX sedan/ EJ25 + VF52 /                                    /1000cc + 80%            /10 ft
22. 358whp 405wtq          /Infamous1     /06 Legacy   / EJ255 + VF39 /           12.891@108.30mph          /816cc + 84%           /1000 ft
23. 354whp 373wtq          /Kastley85891  /08 WRX STI  / EJ257 + Tdo5 20g 8cm                               /850cc + 97%            /500 ft
24. 352whp 434wtq          /Importfanatic17/05 WRX STi /EJ257 + VF39         /12.00@118.44                 /850cc + 80%
25. 351whp 328wtq          / JSarv        /02 WRX      / EJ20 + Td05 18g   /                                /1000cc + 75-80%        /500 ft
26. 346whp 412wtq          /Inthenameofweez /04 WRX wagon  /EJ257 + VF39 /12.51 @ 110.86                  /1000cc + ? Duty Cycle      /600 ft
27. 343whp 350wtq          / rubinm      /05 STi        / EJ257 + HTA68 /                                    / 740cc + 80% IDC      /6500 ft
28. 341whp 379wtq          /tazswing      /09 OXT      / EJ255 + HTA68/                                     /850cc +  95%           /800 ft
29. 341whp 315wtq      /neversummer489    /02 WRX      / EJ20 + HTA68/                                      /820cc +  ??          /
30. 340whp 360wtq          /samoya22      /10 STi      /EJ257+ FP Green HTA                                 /750cc + max           /830 ft
31. 338whp 398wtq          /putz          /06 WRX TR   / EJ255 + Td06h 20g                                  /1150cc +  ??          /1030 ft
32. 334whp 318wtq         /chargerbry     /04 WRX      / EJ20  + EVO3 16g/             12.7@110             /850cc +  88%           /500 ft 
33. 333whp 335wtq         /thorne         /03 WRX       / EJ20  + VF39/      7.962@88.40 12.361@112.23      /823cc +  80%    /  
34. 332 whp 352 wtq       /06-wrx-tr      /06 wrx sedan /ej255+68hta /                              /       /750cc + 85%           /4500ft
35. 331whp 381wtq       /modliving        /08 FORESTER FX/EJ255 + VF48                                      /850cc +  ??    /       
36. 328whp 369wtq       / juanmedina      /07 WRX TR   / EJ255 + VF39    /     12.142@115.5mph              /860cc +  80.83        /1048 ft
37. 326whp 408wtq      /  roninsoldier83  /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + VF39  /                                    /811cc + 75%           /6000 ft
38. 325whp 360wtq         /TDagen         /02 WRX      / EJ257 + Tdo5 18g                                   /740cc + 95%    / 
39. 312whp 359wtq      /   Silverstg2     /02 WRX      / EJ257 + VF39  /                                    /765cc + 85%           /1200 ft
40. 285whp           /Guy on the corner   /05 LGT /    / EJ255 + VF52   /            12.96@107mph           /930cc +  75%          /5800 ft
41. 280whp 270wtq    /      thefoos       /02 WRX      / EJ20 + VF43  /              13.1@105PH             /825cc + 83%            /700 ft
42. 268whp 268wtq    /      Adamlavender  /02 WRX      / EJ20 + VF39  /                                     /820cc                 /6500 ft
43. 265whp 247wtq    /      rexblake      /02 WRX      / EJ20 + 16g  /                                      /750cc                 /1200 ft
44. 150whp 150wtq         / HamFist       /2.5 RS      / none :lol:  /                                      /280cc + %             /5280 ft
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:07 AM   #3
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SORTED BY 1/4 ET
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/1/4 mile               /      POWER       /       NAME    / Subaru Type / Engine-Turbo Setup  /   INJECTOR SIZE + IDC/   ELEVATION 
 
1. 9.9 at 141 MPH/  551whp 485wtq /jasv11 /95 Impreza/ EJ257 + 6262 .82 AR/  /ID2000's/700 ft
2.10.1@143           /631whp 463wtq         /bertune  /05 wrx   /04 sti   / EJ257 + 6765  /1600    /0 ft.
3. 10.1@137 /577whp 461wtq /crystal_imprezav /05 STi/ EJ257 + HTA3586 .82 AR   /1680cc Maxed Out    /1600 ft
3.10.74@126.2mph         /527whp 487wtq          /  cnstman       /04 WRX STI  /EJ257 + 35R .82 AR"      /1000 cc + 95%         /6200 ft
4.11.69@122mph           /546whp 440wtq         / 06rexwagon     /06 WRX wagon/ EJ255 + Dom4            /960 cc + 95%          /5400 ft
5. 11.9@117.96mph /                        /GeneralTJI   /02 WRX wagon  / EJ20 + Holset HE351      /830cc + 84%            /4800 ft
6. 11.98@119.08   /370whp 340wtq   /BenGSX (aka Bouncer)/05 WRX Wagon/ EJ205 + FP 68HTA                     /850cc + MAXED          /100 ft
7. 12.142@115.5mph /328whp 369wtq       / juanmedina      /07 WRX TR   / EJ255 + VF39    /  12.142@115.5mph /860cc +  80.83        /1048 ft
8. 12.361@112.23mph/333whp 335wtq         /thorne      /03 WRX     / EJ20  + VF39                                  /823cc +  80%    /  
9. 12.7@110mhp      /334whp 318wtq         /chargerbry      /04 WRX     / EJ20  + EVO3 16g  /850cc +  88%    /500ft   
10. 12.891@108.30mph /358whp 405wtq          /Infamous1   /06 Legacy  / EJ255 + VF39      /816cc + 84%            /1000 ft
11.12.96@107mph          /285whp               / Guy on the corner /05 LGT      /EJ255 + VF52             /930cc +  75%          /5800 ft
12.13.1@105mph           /280whp and 270wtq    /   thefoos       /02 WRX      /EJ20 + VF43              /825cc + 83%            /700 ft
13.13.29@112.83mph       /363whp 460wtq          /ChandlerWRX06       /06 WRX      / EJ255 + VF39       /850cc + 75%           /1100 ft
14.                       /351whp and 328wtq    /     JSarv       /02 WRX      /EJ20 + TD05-18g 7cm2 3"  /1000cc + 75-80%        /500 ft
15.                       /550whp 480wtq / Scuba Steve    /04 WRX STI  /EJ257 + 35R .82AR"       /1680 cc + 88%         /6200 ft
16.                       /325whp 360wtq             /TDagen      /02 WRX      /EJ257+ Tdo5 18g          /740cc + 95%    / 
10.                       /508whp 495wtq         / swiftwrx1      /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + gt65            /1100 cc + 85%            /0 ft
11.                       /312whp 359wtq      /   Silverstg2      /02 WRX      / EJ257 + VF39            /765cc + 85%           /1200 ft
12.                       /354whp 373wtq        /Kastley85891     /08 WRX STI/ EJ257 + Tdo5 20g 8cm    /850cc + 97%            /500 ft
13.                      /460whp 452wtq         /mick_the_ginge  /03 WRX wagon/ EJ257 + 35R .82 AR      /1100cc + 75%           /600 ft 
14.                      /150whp 150wtq         / HamFist        /2.5 RS      / none :lol:              / 280cc + %             /5280 ft
15.                      /331whp 381wtq        /modliving       /08 FORESTER FX/ EJ257 + VF48           /850cc +  ??    /  
16.                      /338whp 398wtq          /putz           /06 WRX TR   / EJ255 + Td06h 20          /1150cc +  ??          /1030 ft
17.                      /326whp 408wtq      /  roninsoldier83  /06 WRX STI      / EJ257 + VF39           /811cc + 75%           /6000 ft
18.                     /752whp 605wtq        /bertune          /04 WRX STI  / EJ257 + P6765           /1600 cc maxed         /0 ft
19.                     /586whp ???wtq        /billionaire7     /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + GT4088 1.08 AR  /1600 cc               /5300 ft
20                      /265whp 247wtq    /      rexblake       /02 WRX      / EJ20 + 16g              /750cc                 /1200 ft
11.                      /341whp 315wtq          /neversummer489           /02 WRX    / EJ20 + HTA68/                                 /820cc +  ??          /
19.                      /268whp 268wtq    /      Adamlavender       /02 WRX      / EJ20 + VF39  /                                      /820cc                 /6500 ft
11.                      /341whp 379wtq          /tazswing           /09 OXT    / EJ255 + HTA68/                                 /850cc +  95%          /800ft
9.                        / 409whp 394wtq          /pignoseSTI   /06 WRX STI  / EJ257 + 3076R .63 AR  /                                                   /1200cc +             /120 ft

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Old 03-27-2009, 10:10 AM   #4
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Power mods and supporting mods are:
VF39 and Sti TMIC
gimmick turbo inlet
TGV deletes by me
Buschur Racing TBE 3" catless (ceramic coated completely)
Perrin EL and uppipe (ceramic coated)
APS 65mm CAI
Hallman MBC
APS dual vent BOV
3mm phenolic spacer
860cc modded injector
Walbro FP


E85 20 PSI VS 93 oct 18 PSI

Tune by CAMTUNING Cameron

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Old 03-27-2009, 11:09 AM   #5
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is it me or are your numbers loooooooooooooow.

Should have seen 290ish on just 93
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is it me or are your numbers loooooooooooooow.

Should have seen 290ish on just 93
On the airboy spreadsheet? Really? Jeff Sponaugle only made about 400 whp on the spreadsheet with a 30r w/meth in an 08 sti. Phatron makes about the same with his green on meth. I'd say 290 with a vf anything on pump would be a bit much.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:03 PM   #7
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is it me or are your numbers loooooooooooooow.

Should have seen 290ish on just 93
His 1/8th mile traps speak for themselves. The Hp number means nothing.
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well, we finally have an E85 pump in my area, so hopefully I'll be posting up some numbers in the coming months.
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TD05-18g 7cm2 3" compressor
Perrin V1 Fuel rails
Walbro 255
ID Bosch 1000cc injectors
E85 (85% ALL year)
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75-80% at stock fuel pressure

350wtq and 330whp on high boost/timing...
280wtq and 300whp daily driven 18psi.
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825 cc/min injectors (modded stockers)
GSS342 fuel pump
VF43 - running 18-19 psig
IDC's - 83% max, stock fuel pressure
11.7-12.1 AFR gas eqiv.
Opensource tuned by me
Elevation - Granger, IN, which I think is about 700 ft asl.

approx 280 whp, 270 wlb-ft, based on road dyno. Haven't had it out to the track with this setup yet.
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I have been running E-85 for over 4 years now. first 2 years just 30-40% mix, last 2+ years 100%.

1) Your injectors size = 1100 CC
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it) = 95%
3) Elevation = 6200
4) Turbo = GT-35R .82 exhaust

HP and TQ graph.


Boost and A/F. Boost are gauge values, so subtract about 3.5 psi for absolute (elevation sucks!!!)

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^ single walbro pump?
i have 1150's with a gt35r, thinking of switching to e85
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^ single walbro pump?
i have 1150's with a gt35r, thinking of switching to e85
Single walbro feeding a surge tank with a magnafuel inline pump yes

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lol Thanks

nice number btw!
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Thumbs up Here's my old set-up, 04 STi-100% E85

1) Your injectors size-1680cc
2) Injector duty cycle-88%
3) Elevation-6200ft
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Can't wait to post my new setup as soon as I get my 6mt in (gt3076 .82 vband hotside custom made rotated kit all vband flanged except t3 inlet flange, id bosch 1000cc + e85...)

But my last setup Tdo5 18g on e85 with dw 740cc injectors, .74 lambda ,walbro 255
1)Injector size 740cc
2)IDC 95%
3)elevation ?? MN I dunno
4) turbo Deadbolt 18g

360wtq/325whp...21 psi tapering to 14.5 lol out of injector....
blew up my 5mt with that lol.... E85 ftw $1.50 a gallon high octane...

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02 wrx with ssac tmic, ebay turbo inlet, no name uncatted ebay up pipe, tsudo 4 inch bell to 3 inch downpipe, tsudo catback 3 inch all the way, stock turbo, running e85 all the time for atleast 7 months.

1) Your injectors size 850cc modded stockers
2) Injector duty cycle haven't bothered checking yet
3) Elevation 1600 ft
4) Turbo stock

So far I've done about a 13.7 on a crap tune and ****ty launch, on a cold day going through the burnout box that was soaked with water. I should have a new 1/4 mile time here by about April 18th.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:23 PM   #19
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02 wrx with ssac tmic, ebay turbo inlet, no name uncatted ebay up pipe, tsudo 4 inch bell to 3 inch downpipe, tsudo catback 3 inch all the way, stock turbo, running e85 all the time for atleast 7 months.

1) Your injectors size 850cc modded stockers
2) Injector duty cycle haven't bothered checking yet
3) Elevation 1600 ft
4) Turbo stock

So far I've done about a 13.7 on a crap tune and ****ty launch, on a cold day going through the burnout box that was soaked with water. I should have a new 1/4 mile time here by about April 18th.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:12 AM   #20
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:26 AM   #21
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:52 AM   #22
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i ran a 11.017 at 128.6 if you want to add that. my goals is a 10 second slip soon. the density altitude was 7400' asl the day i ran that time.

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V7 ej207, Cosworth 2.2L Stroker, Walbro FP, Hyperflow FMIC, Perrin Big intake, AEM intake filter,

1) Your injectors size --8??cc modded STi Inj
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it), ----dont have it
3) Elevation,---- 84FT
4) Turbo--- Power Enterprise 1818
Just finishing the Engine build and Dyno coming soon....... staytuned Muahahahahahaha!
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:23 AM   #24
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juanmedina i don't see any ET's on that list?
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:50 AM   #25
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juanmedina i don't see any ET's on that list?
No one dhas posted any time slips, minus one guy. Some people have their times on their sig but to be fair and keep it real I will only add times if a slip is provided. If someone does not agree PM, also I only run the 1/8 but is sorted by 1/4
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