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Old 03-30-2009, 04:09 PM   #51
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I finish college in three weeks, so that has to be done before I can bust out some more wicked voodoo. Denver has a new road course opening up . Drifting those wide flat corners is going to be a blast.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:44 PM   #52
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I am proud to be part of the e85 army...
1) Your injectors size: modded injectors (almost 830 cc's)
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it), Ill log later, should be low 90's
3) Elevation: 5400ish ft, broomfield co
4) Turbo VF30 (spools quick and holds real strong till a little past 6k ty e85)


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I finish college in three weeks, so that has to be done before I can bust out some more wicked voodoo. Denver has a new road course opening up . Drifting those wide flat corners is going to be a blast.
cant wait for highplains raceway ))
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:21 PM   #53
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1)Injector size- 820cc (modified stockers)
2)IDC- not sure yet..
3)elevation- 587ft above sea level
4) turbo- vf48

not sure of the numbers it pulls really nicely.. tune is half way done.. the clutch kept slipping on my pulls .. will post numbers soon enough
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:36 PM   #54
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Just found this thread. Cool. '05 LGT

1) Your injectors size = PE850 "flow 930ish per mfgr"
2) Injector duty cycle = ~75%
3) Elevation = 5800-6200ft (Denver, Bandimere dragstrip)
4) Turbo = VF52

I haven't dyno'd my car nor I have I completely finished the tune due to the unexpected death of my laptop (new dedicated tuning laptop is on the way...). But I did take it to the dragstrip...

Elevation at Bandimere = 5800' (other guys here have it listed as 6200', but pretty sure it's 5800')

Here is the video of this run..


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Old 03-30-2009, 06:42 PM   #55
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Love me some E85. Am not tuned for it with my VF43 but was *this* close to throwing in a 1/2 tank or so this past weekend at one of the local E85 equipped stations.

P.S. - Why no rebuttal from the 'haters'??
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:45 PM   #56
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Every one that tunes should include timing that would be cool E does seem to like strange amounts....We should make it total timing though...
Would love to see what you guys are running for total timing. Since I road tune and E85 offers little feedback as to the ideal timing, it's tough to know whether I've got it nailed down or not.

Here is the timing I am running on my 2.5L, VF52. Critiques welcome.

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Old 03-30-2009, 07:00 PM   #57
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^cool lets see more timing , I will have some once I get the beast back on the road....
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:04 PM   #58
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I need your whp and wtq so I can add you
I'm working on a new tune here once the weather gets better, I'll do a before and after
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:11 PM   #59
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Just found this thread. Cool. '05 LGT

1) Your injectors size = PE850 "flow 930ish per mfgr"
2) Injector duty cycle = ~75%
3) Elevation = 5800-6200ft (Denver, Bandimere dragstrip)
4) Turbo = VF52

I haven't dyno'd my car nor I have I completely finished the tune due to the unexpected death of my laptop (new dedicated tuning laptop is on the way...). But I did take it to the dragstrip...

Elevation at Bandimere = 5800' (other guys here have it listed as 6200', but pretty sure it's 5800')

Here is the video of this run..

Bandimere is 5800' our tunes were in colorado springs at 6200'
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:18 PM   #60
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Bandimere is 5800' our tunes were in colorado springs at 6200'
Makes sense, but in juanmedia's "SORTED BY 1/4 ET" in post #2 he has the quarter-mile runs at 6200'.

Elevation shouldn't matter for the dyno graphs since the CF takes that into account (theoretically anyhow)
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:51 PM   #61
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Pretty close to my timing dude, when I get the next lot of runs in, I will post up the latest.
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Would love to see what you guys are running for total timing. Since I road tune and E85 offers little feedback as to the ideal timing, it's tough to know whether I've got it nailed down or not.

Here is the timing I am running on my 2.5L, VF52. Critiques welcome.

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Old 03-30-2009, 08:21 PM   #62
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Forgot to post my setup!

Drunken Boxer v3.0
1) Your injectors size: STOCK 280cc
2) Injector duty cycle: enough
3) Elevation: 5280ft.
4) No boost. Bolt-ons + Fuel chemistry only. 32mpg on virgin E85. My only fuel mod is a Walbro pump. It also uses colder NGK plugs. 7's and 8's love you long time...

E85 allows better tuning from the same combinations to bring us closer to our sea level times. It rapidly became popular in Colorado due to availability and a solid enthusiast base crossing ALL realms of vehicles. Gas tuning up here sucks because every vehicle is running around like a big octane test with brutally hot air and poorer cooling capacity compared to sea level. Ethanol fills both voids. I doctor fuel chemistry to improve power, cooling, and mileage.

Ethanol is a fantastic tool at any altitude. As I prefer to put it: "Making altitude meaningless." Latitude means more with ethanol blends. You equatorial bastards get to run 100% hydrous. I can't do that in December .

BTW, you guys might want to consider trying butanol eventually. I'll have more data up on that on my website. My little pitbike loves the stuff, but it needs to be blended to run right. Butanol doesn't evaporate very well but carries just fine in a mixture. Too much of it in a blend doesn't burn completely and I have to dial the mixture back to run right.

These run really well:
E85 and butanol
Gas, E85, and butanol
+ hydrous ethanol in any of those.

These mixes hold up for me so far in the cold. Gasoline is still the only one I can run straight. Blends of the others run brutally fast with the right plugs, timing, and mixtures. E85 is easy for most of you to handle. But, I went over your heads a looooooooong time ago with fuels. Marketing this stuff is a major bitch .

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Old 03-30-2009, 08:36 PM   #63
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Oh, one more thing....You better consider a "Biofuel Armed Forces". Within 10 years America will have these fuel blends proven, tested, and stable in land, air, and sea.

That's what made Subarus boring to me. It's all about "my car's faster than yours"...not everything that's actually out there that made it into specifically a Subaru. I prefer flight, and a Subaru is my little baby airplane.

Luckily, few ricers are actually working with E85. They're too busy blowing up everything else before they hear of E85. I like my strong hobbyist and tinker-freak markets for specifically biofuels . They're free of a lot of riff raff and are far more creative. They're even self sufficient and know how to work on their own stuff. Sorry to sound harsh and cynical, but when you're trying to make a living things look different.

I <3 biofuel scooters .
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:50 AM   #64
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1) Your injectors size -960cc
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it), 95% (installing bosch 044 as we speak and raising base fuel pressure to lower this)
3) Elevation - 5400 ft
4) Turbo - Blouch Dominator 4.0R
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Stock rods, CP pistons, 05 6 speed
Dynoed 546/540 SAE (~19%, thanks to our altitude and 11.9 atm press)
Ran 11.69@122 with stock tires, 1.73 60'.
I'm the guy that tuned Juan's car.
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:17 PM   #65
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32mpg on E85. Suck it, bitches

Tuning, developing, and innovating with Subarus and E85 for 5 years. I'm glad to see it so widespread. I hate seeing people blow stuff up with it, brag about it, and then build something else that explodes. I think when it comes to E85...making 500hp twice, doesn't count, sorta like gas.

<---50k miles on E85 with no engine rebuilds.

My E85 2.5RS vs. stock 02 RS


Honestly, I could pull on a stock bugeye before the fuel swap. After the fuel swap, I could slay them like no other and haven't looked back. STis are more fun because I can find out just how well the driver does their job . I've never had one that didn't chase me . Bugeyes just give up.
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1) Your injectors size -960cc
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it), 95% (installing bosch 044 as we speak and raising base fuel pressure to lower this)
3) Elevation - 5400 ft
4) Turbo - Blouch Dominator 4.0R
2006 WRX Limited Wagon
Stock rods, CP pistons, 05 6 speed
Dynoed 546/540 SAE (~19%, thanks to our altitude and 11.9 atm press)
Ran 11.69@122 with stock tires, 1.73 60'.
I'm the guy that tuned Juan's car.
thanks for posting CAM, I can't wait to go the track

Also I see lot of people that posted setups but didn't include power numbers , please include the numbers so I can add you

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Old 04-01-2009, 12:19 AM   #66
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150whp, 150wtq. I'm not picky. None of my runs are the exact same numbers, anyway . I updated my mods, too. It only has a 255 pump for fueling.

This would be a good spot to ask but I don't want to go OT. Has anyone else noticed condensation issues in their oil or crankcase? I haven't had any, but here it's a rare issue. Motors in cold climates are the ones going out but mine hasn't. They spin bearings, but by then the oil is too contaminated to tell. Are iron block Mitsus behaving any differently than aluminum block Subarus?

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Old 04-01-2009, 01:42 PM   #67
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Love me some E85. Am not tuned for it with my VF43 but was *this* close to throwing in a 1/2 tank or so this past weekend at one of teh local E85 equipped stations.

P.S. - y no rebuttal from teh 'haters'??

so long as u tune for that half tank. . .
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:14 PM   #68
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Injectors: DW1100
Fuel Pump: Bosch 044 single
Turbo: Rotated GT35R 0.82 exhaust housing, 21 psi
IDC's: 75%, 60 psi static
Target AFR: 11.2 AFR gas eqiv.
EM: Autronic tuned by me
Elevation: Portland Oregon, 600 ft'ish

Final power 460 WHP / 452 TQ

This dyno run shows 465/447 with WCF
http://www.mickandsarah.com/Movies/e85-450-450.mp4
Hey Mick, at that rich an equiv rate to gas have you seen any breakdown of the oil viscosity? What sort of Lambda targets is everyone tuning for on here? For me the car seems to clear up and run like a raped ape at around .83 although the EGT's can get up there a little.

Mike
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:55 PM   #69
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I think it is a little safer to stay in the .75-.78 range I think my car tends to run just as well there... I tried the .82 range for a while and I don't like it as much as the .75-.78 range... HHHmm E85 tends to keep my egts pretty low, what are we talking when you say up there a little?
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:11 PM   #70
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1) Your injectors size -960cc
2) Injector duty cycle (if you have it), 95% (installing bosch 044 as we speak and raising base fuel pressure to lower this)
3) Elevation - 5400 ft
4) Turbo - Blouch Dominator 4.0R
2006 WRX Limited Wagon
Stock rods, CP pistons, 05 6 speed
Dynoed 546/540 SAE (~19%, thanks to our altitude and 11.9 atm press)
Ran 11.69@122 with stock tires, 1.73 60'.
I'm the guy that tuned Juan's car.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:37 PM   #71
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^thats pretty good for 5400ft elevation isn't it??
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:18 AM   #72
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^thats pretty good for 5400ft elevation isn't it??
Yea it is. He's just trying to get me going.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:17 PM   #73
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^thats pretty good for 5400ft elevation isn't it??
I lived in Boulder CO and routinely drove up at 10k feet. I know what hes done is impressive.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:46 PM   #74
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20 psi
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WHP 331

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Old 04-07-2009, 10:16 PM   #75
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1) Your injectors size = DW 850cc
2) Injector duty cycle = 75% ish
3) Elevation = Phx, not sure
4) Turbo = VF39

Maps not quite done. . . but 363whp is pretty good i'd say
Terrible launch but the trap speed was decent:



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