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Old 05-06-2009, 03:26 PM   #1
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There seems to be no hope for Lexus models that sell for less than $30,000 to reach the US market, although this won’t be true for other markets. In Europe, for instance, where diminutives, such as the Bmw 1-Series and the Audi A3 still gain high sales figures, and there are reports coming out that as early as 2010 Lexus will have a challenger for its German competitors.

Lexus’ European sales target has been pegged at 150,000 units by 2015 and to reach this mark the Japanese carmaker will come up with a new entry-level model for the European market. Furthermore, there are also reports coming out that Lexus will be showcasing a concept variant of its 1-series competitor at the Frankfurt Motor Show this coming September, in advance of a 2010 launch.

The new Lexus model will be distinctly a hybrid patterned after the 2010 Toyota Prius, will be a compact hatch equipped with FWD and targeted to rival the highly-economical 4-cylinder diesel lineup of German brands. Pricing for the new model is reported to be lower than the Lexus IS 220D’s sticker price.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:32 PM   #2
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I stopped reading after FWD and compete with Germans...

Hello Acura,

This is Lexus,

Scrappydo told me to call you.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:40 PM   #3
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Um, the 1-series is FR, surely the best car to compete with it would be a revival of the old IS200, but re-freshed.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:56 PM   #4
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The new Lexus model will be distinctly a hybrid patterned after the 2010 Toyota Prius, will be a compact hatch equipped with FWD and targeted to rival the highly-economical 4-cylinder diesel lineup of German brands.
WTF?
While I like the idea of a hot hatch Lexus, I want one here and I want it to compete with the 135i we get.

btw that picture looks like the Prodrive P2. Just saying.
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:11 PM   #5
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...they lost me at "hybrid."
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:32 PM   #6
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:10 PM   #7
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my next car will either be RWD or AWD
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:51 PM   #8
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I stopped reading after FWD and compete with Germans...

Hello Acura,

This is Lexus,

Scrappydo told me to call you.

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Old 05-06-2009, 09:36 PM   #9
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I know they're talking about the "other" 1 series but... FWD and hybrid? Can we have a competitor for the 135i instead please
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:43 PM   #10
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they should take the toyo-baru and bling it up instead!
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:50 PM   #11
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I stopped reading after FWD and compete with Germans...

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Scrappydo told me to call you.
dude, you might as well read it all...you like 90% into the article anyways
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:00 AM   #12
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they should take the toyo-baru and bling it up instead!
This.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:16 AM   #13
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WTF?
btw that picture looks like the Prodrive P2. Just saying.

no it doesn´t. at ALL
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:12 AM   #14
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Lexus looks set to up the ante in its never-ending quest to upstage its German rivals, with the Japanese luxury brand rumoured to be prepping a 1 Series-fightin’ five-door hatchback for a debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September.
The hatch will be built on the same Prius-derived platform as the recently-released HS 250h mini-Lexus, and, like the HS, will power its front wheels via a petrol-electric hybrid powertrain.
The Lexus hatchback is intended to do battle with the dominant turbodiesel hatches in the C-premium segment, namely Audi’s A3 and BMW’s 1 Series. Unlike the Prius, the Lexus hybrid will be tuned with a greater emphasis on power rather than efficiency, however expect it to still be relatively frugal.
Styling is a mystery for now. Various renderings have been doing the rounds of late, but we’re told to expect it to share none of its sheetmetal with its HS 250h sibling (above). If the rumours are true, then we should get a better idea of what the finished product will look like at Frankfurt.
The as-yet unnamed Lexus hybrid hatch is expected to go on sale in Europe sometime in 2010, with a pricetag of around Ł20,000 (AU$40,000).
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:42 AM   #15
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umm.. toyota corolla anyone...
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yay 35k corolla!
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:34 AM   #17
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no it doesn´t. at ALL
Yes it does jerk face.



It's close enough

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Old 05-07-2009, 09:45 AM   #18
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Um, no it does not, I guess in the sense it has a grill and headlights and its silver with a black background...
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:10 AM   #19
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Use AE86 gene and make it retro RWD/lightweight/basic and under $20k ....That I would buy.


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Old 05-07-2009, 11:43 AM   #20
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Um, no it does not, I guess in the sense it has a grill and headlights and its silver with a black background...
go to work.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:45 AM   #21
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sorry, I just don't see it.

The lights are different, the hood lines are different, the mirrors are different, one is organic and flowing, the other looks like it was designed by a 6th grader with a ruler. The air intakes are different. The wheel arches are different.

If my opinion bugs you, sorry, I suggest you either get over it, or add me to your ignore list.

And you may want to work on your anger management. You get mad and throw out insults quickly. Lighten up.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:45 PM   #22
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sorry, I just don't see it.

The lights are different, the hood lines are different, the mirrors are different, one is organic and flowing, the other looks like it was designed by a 6th grader with a ruler. The air intakes are different. The wheel arches are different.

If my opinion bugs you, sorry, I suggest you either get over it, or add me to your ignore list.

And you may want to work on your anger management. You get mad and throw out insults quickly. Lighten up.
No, if I were the type who gets riled up over stuff on the internet I would have said somethng mean and argumentative (like most do) or defensive (like you did).
Instead I accepted your comment and rolled with it.

You have to realize I;m not some ass at the bar trying to pick a fight, I'm just some guy dicking around on the internet at work.
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:29 PM   #23
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Defensive, no not me... who is defensive, I am not defensive, your defensive..

Messing with the internet at work, um yeah, I can relate... you my and I my friend, are kindred spirits...

although I would not be true to my nature if I did not point out you called boxerinside a jerkface
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W3RD!!!
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introducing the Lexus Scion
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