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Old 06-01-2009, 08:46 AM   #76
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Well I learn alot from this weekend. Mainly setup for that surface and Howard Duncan is banned from designing courses. lol
I drove like crap on Saturday and better on Sunday. Corded 2 tires on Saturday but had spares. Ran out of tire on Sunday. I am out with the 15's as I think they are not going to be good enough for the concrete. I am going to be getting 18's soon. The tires were getting hot too quickly. Need more surface area with the higher grip and heat levels and I was using a bunch of 3rd gear on Sunday. This was just the fronts.
Big thx too my co-driver for help as we were working on setup. I have had to make changes suspension and alingment compared to asphault.

I'll be running STU next weekend as I will not have tires for DSP.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:40 AM   #77
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Congrats and great job to all the trophy winners, especially Kriz Martin for staying focus and doing such an outstanding job in STU. I met Kriz a little over a year ago at Danville VA, when I was running my old STI in AS, and I recognized his dedication and talent right off the bat. Keep up the good work guys !!!!!

Also, nice showing from Shawn Gerbia, the only Subaru in AS, and a great competitor.

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Old 06-01-2009, 12:00 PM   #78
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While I am disappointed with my driving (quick first runs but never got faster both days) I did make progress with the car setup. Thanks to Brian Meyer, Colin Fiedler and Rod from Bridgestone for the setup input. The car is finally starting to improve mid-corner and exit.

Unfortunately I had a bit of car trouble on the way home. We stopped for dinner in Little Rock and the oil line to the turbo broke spewing oil all over the parking lot. The good news is that it broke in the restaurant parking lot and the engine should not be damaged. It is at Riverside Subaru in Little Rock, AR and hopefully will be fixed soon.

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Old 06-01-2009, 12:08 PM   #79
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Link to PAX results: http://sccaforums.com/forums/storage...-RTP.Final.pdf

Congrats on your first Tour win in AS Jay!!! Looking forward to seeing you tear things up @ Nats.

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Old 06-01-2009, 12:16 PM   #80
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Damn Paul, that sucks! Hopefully it gets fixed soon enough. As you said, luckily it happened in the parking lot. But still, ouch.

I see what you mean Colin about the course. Looks like ST raw timed STU by about 1.4s or so. And you finished 67th in PAX. Methinks the course design was not favorable to STU cars.
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:30 PM   #81
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There were also something like 5 or more national champions in ST, they were rediculously fast, that's for sure. Congrats to all, lots of good competition over the two days.
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:52 PM   #82
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I see what you mean Colin about the course. Looks like ST raw timed STU by about 1.4s or so. And you finished 67th in PAX. Methinks the course design was not favorable to STU cars.
Seems to be a recurring theme this year for tour courses. Everyone was asking why we (STU) were so slow at Dixie earlier in the year. I just told them because we suck. At least you guys broke into the top 70 this time...

Congrats on the win Colin. Put another one in the books for Bridgestone.

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Old 06-01-2009, 12:58 PM   #83
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There were also something like 5 or more national champions in ST.
Name the 5.

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Old 06-01-2009, 01:07 PM   #84
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Name the 5.

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+1 I only see 2.
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:08 PM   #85
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I also see one in STU.
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:13 PM   #86
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Damn Paul, that sucks! Hopefully it gets fixed soon enough. As you said, luckily it happened in the parking lot. But still, ouch.

I see what you mean Colin about the course. Looks like ST raw timed STU by about 1.4s or so. And you finished 67th in PAX. Methinks the course design was not favorable to STU cars.
It was a Miata course. Howard Duncan designed it.
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:37 PM   #87
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There were also something like 5 or more national champions in ST, they were rediculously fast, that's for sure. Congrats to all, lots of good competition over the two days.
What! 5 or more? Maybe I missed something? I know Jason and Tim are national champs in ST, but 5?
My apologies if I am discounting others' wins.

Edit: Sorry, I see this has already been covered.
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:53 PM   #88
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The trend towards transition heavy National Tours seems to be on the rise. With so many people running on board video, you no longer have to guess on course design based on the results, you can see it first hand.

The fact CSP Miatas and ST Civics continue to beat their "faster" SP and ST_ class competitors only reinforces the point that Solo 2 is more about weight/tire instead of weight/hp, with overall width playing a big factor now.

The only question that remains, is what the two courses will look like at Nationals. Hopefully they will differ in their elements enough to help balance out a class over two days, and not be two courses that favor narrow slalom masters.

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I also see one in STU.
Josh,

My take on penderperson's comments is as follows. He responded to your comment on ST raw timing STU saying that were something like 5 national champions running in the class. So it looks like he was referring to the specific "ST class" rather than ST* (all the different street tire classes). His comment wouldn't make much sense if he meant ST* as STU beat STX in raw time.
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:15 PM   #90
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Remember when Forbes had a traditionally fast north course and tradionally technical south course? Ahhh.....the good ole days.....

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The trend towards transition heavy National Tours seems to be on the rise. With so many people running on board video, you no longer have to guess on course design based on the results, you can see it first hand.

The fact CSP Miatas and ST Civics continue to beat their "faster" SP and ST_ class competitors only reinforces the point that Solo 2 is more about weight/tire instead of weight/hp, with overall width playing a big factor now.

The only question that remains, is what the two courses will look like at Nationals. Hopefully they will differ in their elements enough to help balance out a class over two days, and not be two courses that favor narrow slalom masters.

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Old 06-01-2009, 03:26 PM   #91
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Anyone have pics of the Hyundai Genesis Turbo that finished 2nd in GS?
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:47 PM   #92
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Josh,

My take on penderperson's comments is as follows. He responded to your comment on ST raw timing STU saying that were something like 5 national champions running in the class. So it looks like he was referring to the specific "ST class" rather than ST* (all the different street tire classes). His comment wouldn't make much sense if he meant ST* as STU beat STX in raw time.
I understood his comment. My comment on one being in STU was to back up my statement and combat his. While there were "5 or more national champions" in ST (actually two, as already commented), there was also a National Champion in STU. So my statement that ST was 1.4s faster being more dependent on course design was validated in that ST had National Champs AND STU had a National Champion and therefore you couldn't use "talent" alone as the reason for the time discrepancies.
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^ Gotcha. Makes sense. Yup, Colin is definitely the current yard-stick in STU, and if the ST crowd beat him by 1.4 secs, it definitely indicates the course(s) was baised towards smaller cars.
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Old 06-01-2009, 05:55 PM   #94
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Congrats on your first Tour win in AS Jay!!! Looking forward to seeing you tear things up @ Nats.

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Chike, what happened to DiSimo on day one? I saw the dnf in the regular results.

Glad to see that Ruggles was right there in Mike's 350Z.

Congrats to Martin on third place and to Colin for the win.
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It was a crap course. Howard Duncan designed it.
Fixed that for you. For what it is worth, the second day's course wasn't as bad. It flowed a bit better and sure didn't have the endless offset feel that the first day's course had. Having said all that though it really doesn't matter what the course is like as long as we are all driving the same one. I am very glad Nationals will not be in Blytheville though. I would go back for another Tour for sure, but I don't want to be in that town for a week.
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Chike, what happened to DiSimo on day one? I saw the dnf in the regular results.

Glad to see that Ruggles was right there in Mike's 350Z.

Congrats to Martin on third place and to Colin for the win.
+1 on the Ruggles and Martin comments. Colin definitely rocked the house!

I talked to Disimo for about 10 minutes last night. He said the EP car had an alignment & set-up issue on Day 1 and their older front slicks corded after 1st runs. As a back-up, they had brought a new set of slicks and ran them on Day 2.
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Anyone have pics of the Hyundai Genesis Turbo that finished 2nd in GS?
None from the Tour, but here are some from a local event:

http://aseipos.zenfolio.com/p1066249...ed6de#h88ed6de

http://aseipos.zenfolio.com/p1066249...5f51#h11295f51

His Evo broke so he decided to run his new daily driver is the story I heard. I don't really know the guy though. Car looked pretty good on course but he did get beat locally by John Ma last week by 1.2 seconds in a GS MCS. Although it was a course that favored small cars.....
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I am out with the 15's as I think they are not going to be good enough for the concrete. I am going to be getting 18's soon. The tires were getting hot too quickly. Need more surface area with the higher grip and heat levels and I was using a bunch of 3rd gear on Sunday.
Does this mean your 15s are for sale?




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I really would also like to point out the awesome corner working on Sunday (insert sarcasm here). Going into day 2 I had about a 3 tenths lead over Aytinc. I wanted to go out on my first run and put down a good solid clean run as a base to work off of. I came back from my run with a 55.8XX and they announced plus 1 cone. I was mad because I hadn't heard a cone or known that I had hit anything. I went back to grid and my wife said it was in the back someplace but you couldn't really see for sure. She told me Aytinc came back with a 55.0XX clean. I was worried since I had hit a cone so I had to clean it up and go a lot faster.

I decided to go check the master incident sheet before my second run to see which cone I had hit. It had me hitting a cone in corner 2 and also had a DNF on my run in the same corner. I was 99% sure that I didn't DNF my run as it was a very controlled run. I had walked the course 4 times and made sure I could run the course in my head without missing anything and had no problem doing so. I went looking for someone to talk to and found Sandy in the timing trailer and told her about it. She said she would check on it right away. I was leaving the timing trailer and Aytinc was right outside. I guess my wife was talking to him after I checked the sheets and he was saying he missed the second offset gate coming back on the course. He told Sandy he thought it was his DNF and not mine. She told us she would check right away. We went back to grid and shortly after someone came up to me and said that corner 2 was SURE it was 91 STU that DNFed which was me. I complained to him and almost wanted to ask him what kind of car DNFed and not just the number since a Grey STI and a white Evo are a bit different. He told me he could give me another run after my third run because of it. I told him no since I didn't want to be unfair about it, I just wanted to make it right. I had video that we could review later if needed.

So as it stood, I had no first run and Aytinc had a raw time 8 tenths faster than mine. Needless to say I had work to do and was not in the right frame of mind at this point to get it done. I went out on my second run and was driving conservatively to make sure I didn't hit anything and once I got to the section of the course that was corner 2 I kept thinking where I could have DNFed instead of thinking about the task at hand. I just wanted to make sure if I did DNF I wasn't going to do it 3 times making the same mistake. I came back with a 55.7XX clean, no DNF this time. I wasn't happy with the time at all but at least it was clean. Aytinc however came in with a 54.7XX clean. I was a second behind on day 2 putting me about 7 tenths back in the class.

Aytinc was running right before me, so I pulled up to the line and watched him launch. I pulled up to the line ready to go and the starter held me there. I proceeded to watch Aytinc run his run and Raleigh announced that he had a better time, but it was only a few hundredths faster. My heart stopped for a second there. The starter kept holding me at this point and I had no idea why. All the cars ahead of me had good times, no one hit anything so it wasn't like the course needed to be fixed. The starter of course is saying nothing to me so after 3 minutes I got his attention to ask what was going on he tells me that there are some reruns because of a cone that had been down on course. Now this wasn't the last few cars that had run, it was many cars ago so I had no idea why they decided to hold me at the line but it was very annoying. I ended up sitting at the line for 4-5 minutes (I will post video from day two eventually) before he finally tells me I can go.

I start the run and on the offsets going out I was pushing too hard and was a few feet off some of the cones and not on the line I wanted to be on at all. At this point I thought I was done for but I just put my head down and nailed the rest of the course. I did some sections way better than I had up until this run. I came across the finish and couldn't see the timer since they had them where the driver's really couldn't see them and after what seemed like forever heard Raleigh announce me as the new leader in STU with a time of 54.8XX, just a few tenths faster than I needed to run. I was shaking a lot more after this run than I have in a long time and was very relieved. Really wish that Sunday could have happened differently but the outcome was obviously great. Having checked the video out this morning after getting home I did not DNF my first run confirming what I had thought.

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to share the story that the results sheet wouldn't show.

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Thanks for the insight Colin. I was on the edge of my seat reading that!

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