TD04 19T Upgrade Discussion

lackofhp · 10-24-2008, 01:44 AM

My stocker is on the fritz and I am thinking of picking up a new/used one and going this route:

http://www.blouchturbo.com/turbos/WR...essor_Upgrade/

Has anyone had and experience with this? Trying to do some research and the good ole search button isnt helping much.

If it helps, current power mods:
STi TMIC
SPT Intake
Flying Performance BCS
TurboXS Catless TBE
Grimmspeed uppipe with Tial 38mm EWG

Note- I will get retuned (even if I just get a OEM replacement)

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Audiosavvy · 10-24-2008, 01:47 AM

If you're not going to get a re-tune for it, stick with an OEM TD04.

lackofhp · 10-24-2008, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiosavvy

If you're not going to get a re-tune for it, stick with an OEM TD04.

It will get retuned. I did a little detuning tonight with my tuner (awdtuning.com) so that I can prolong the current one.

Audiosavvy · 10-24-2008, 01:59 AM

Ok, as long as you've got that covered you should be good. I don't have any personal experience with that turbo, but it would be a cool experiment! Good luck.

seanathanq83 · 10-24-2008, 02:20 AM

hey i have really been looking into this, i talked to a guy and bought a turbo that i thought was a 19t wheel , ended up being a 16g wheel but what i found out, it that the TD04 wheel is to small, and you loose power over the whole power band, a better set up would be basicly what i have, its a TD04 exhaust housing bored to fit a TD04HL wheel, which is basicly a TD05, and then sticking the 19t or a 16g wheel on there , i believe the 19t is a 31lbs/hr wheel and the 16g is a 32.5lbs/hr wheel, with the 16g and TD04HL wheel i hit full boost by 2650, and at 12psi, im pushing more power that with the stock at 20psi, if you want, you can pm me and i can send you some of the links, and alot of the info i have found. forced performace sells the exhaust wheel for 237.50 , its the only place i could find it, but either way it will be a nice set up that has lots of power and the amount of spool up time of a reg TD04

also i will have a stock TD04 with like no play in it, in about a week and a half or so, and im in the houston area

Surfer Steve · 07-28-2009, 12:45 AM

Thought I would bump this tread back up with my results of the Blouch TD04-19T on my 05 WRX. This thread was helpful awhile back and it felt appropriate to add some info...

Mod List
Stock 2.0l
TD04-19T ported and clipped
Ver 8 JDM TMIC
Stock air box with Subaru AA080 filter
GM EBCS
APS turbo inlet
Pink Injectors
STi up-pipe
Stock mid-pipe to Prodrive Axle back with a Invidia down-pipe

This graph was not the finished product, the final graph is alot smother... but it shows the difference between my stage 2 setup over the TD04-19t aftermath. spools fast as hell on the street I'm seeing 19-20psi at 2700rpm and ended up with 277hp and 277ft-lbs

and here's the difference between a VF39 (dotted line) and the Blouch TD04-19t (Solid line)

VF-39 WRX
Stock 2.0l
VF-39
e-bay TMIC
APS 65mm cold air
Pink Injectors
catless up-pipe
full 3" turbo back

I like to see how this turbo blows the socks off the VF-39 even with the stock air box and basically a stock cat back

Steve

jason miller · 07-28-2009, 03:39 AM

Plans to track it? Trap speed would be very interesting.

GDB FAN · 07-28-2009, 03:48 AM

Impressive.

Im considering this over my vf34. I miss stage 2 spool.

Boarder325 · 07-28-2009, 03:48 AM

Wow. That is so nice to see. I have putting off the turbo upgrade for a while and think I might pull the plug on this. That is actually a lttle more power than I want but great spool characteristics!. Thanks for posting this up.

Thom · 07-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Damn! that is awesome! so full boost by 2700 rpms?!! that would be awesome! and it pulls almost all the way to redline! This i like. This i like a lot. where exactly can i purchase the turbo from? forced performance? or blousch?

Phat04WRX · 07-28-2009, 02:10 PM

thanks for that info. how does it feel on the street/freeway around 6k? does it pull nicely up in the higher rpms?

WRX SEX · 07-28-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfer Steve

spools fast as hell on the street I'm seeing 19-20psi at 2700rpm and ended up with 277hp and 277ft-lbs

so you're peaking at 20psi and the tapering to...

Dobbs · 07-28-2009, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boarder325

That is actually a lttle more power than I want

that might be a first for NASIOC....

btw, what are you using for boost control? and what was the turn-around time from Blouch?

GDB FAN · 07-28-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom

where exactly can i purchase the turbo from? forced performance? or blousch?

You mean blouch? Check the first post (and title)....

Quote:

Originally Posted by lackofhp

http://www.blouchturbo.com/turbos/WR...essor_Upgrade/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat04WRX

how does it feel on the street/freeway around 6k? does it pull nicely up in the higher rpms?

I'd also like to know. And what it tapers to.

fastwrx25 · 07-28-2009, 04:49 PM

+1 for interesting turbo that noone ever posts info about.

nolanator · 07-28-2009, 04:58 PM

i've been messing around with 19t turbos for a couple years now and i love them...awesome thread

SubyWill · 07-28-2009, 05:57 PM

i'm REALLY interested in this, there's no way i can send my stock turbo in for this? or do i buy the one off the site?

conrad87 · 07-28-2009, 07:38 PM

this is amazing. would really like to see some track times on this

Blouchturbo · 07-28-2009, 08:07 PM

The 19T is overlooked by many 2.0L customers that upgrade to a VF

moorebl · 07-28-2009, 08:41 PM

this will be my next turbo of choie for my 2.0

Surfer Steve · 07-28-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobbs

btw, what are you using for boost control? and what was the turn-around time from Blouch?

Blouch has some great customer service and the turnaround time was very acceptable. I shipped it out Monday and got it back before the end of the week, Mike was really helpful and answered all my questions

I have no complaints

also, I'm using a GM EBCS...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat04WRX

thanks for that info. how does it feel on the street/freeway around 6k? does it pull nicely up in the higher rpms?

it feels great on the street and pulls really hard from 3200rpm all the way to redline, I don't notice it falling off too much past 6500rpm but I know it does. night and day compared to the stock TD04...

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRX SEX

so you're peaking at 20psi and the tapering to...

it tapers to about 17 to 18psi to redline...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason miller

Plans to track it? Trap speed would be very interesting.

I'm not really into drag to much , so I'm not sure if I'll have that info anytime soon... but who knows, I might take a trip out there one day with some of the local t3h Fast-Rarrrrrr Scoobys

I do plan on doing some open track days and I always love auto-xing... FP here I come

Steve

Surfer Steve · 07-28-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubyWill

i'm REALLY interested in this, there's no way i can send my stock turbo in for this? or do i buy the one off the site?

I don't believe they stock these turbos... just send in your stock turbo or buy a cheep blown TD04 and send it in for a rebuild

SubyWill · 07-28-2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfer Steve

I don't believe they stock these turbos... just send in your stock turbo or buy a cheep blown TD04 and send it in for a rebuild

hmm you said you shipped yours out and had it within a week?? that's not bad, i can just ship mine out

i was going vf43, but this is wayyyy better and more efficient! thanks for the info man!

Thom · 07-29-2009, 01:28 AM

Wow this is awesome! almost 280 whp on a TDO4. That is great! And full boost at 2700 rpms. Man screw the VF series i mean they are great turbos, dont get me wrong, but you cant get a VF series with that kind of spool and you make the same amount of power! and for 325 bucks, that is a lot of bang for your buck.

Phat04WRX · 07-29-2009, 12:26 PM

are pinks required for this? what were the duty cycles? great info. nice power. I love my 2.0 80k in and it runs strong. didn't want to upgrade turbos but this makes me want.

10-24-2008, 01:44 AM	#1
lackofhp Scooby Guru Member#: 149001 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Under-employed Vehicle: 09 Caliber ex 07 WRX	TD04 19T Upgrade Discussion My stocker is on the fritz and I am thinking of picking up a new/used one and going this route: http://www.blouchturbo.com/turbos/WR...essor_Upgrade/ Has anyone had and experience with this? Trying to do some research and the good ole search button isnt helping much. If it helps, current power mods: STi TMIC SPT Intake Flying Performance BCS TurboXS Catless TBE Grimmspeed uppipe with Tial 38mm EWG Note- I will get retuned (even if I just get a OEM replacement) * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by lackofhp; 10-24-2008 at 01:51 AM.

07-28-2009, 12:45 AM	#6
Surfer Steve Scooby Specialist Member#: 70981 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Jacksonville Vehicle: 2005 WRX WRBlue 01 Outback/5mt	Thought I would bump this tread back up with my results of the Blouch TD04-19T on my 05 WRX. This thread was helpful awhile back and it felt appropriate to add some info... Mod List Stock 2.0l TD04-19T ported and clipped Ver 8 JDM TMIC Stock air box with Subaru AA080 filter GM EBCS APS turbo inlet Pink Injectors STi up-pipe Stock mid-pipe to Prodrive Axle back with a Invidia down-pipe This graph was not the finished product, the final graph is alot smother... but it shows the difference between my stage 2 setup over the TD04-19t aftermath. spools fast as hell on the street I'm seeing 19-20psi at 2700rpm and ended up with 277hp and 277ft-lbs and here's the difference between a VF39 (dotted line) and the Blouch TD04-19t (Solid line) VF-39 WRX Stock 2.0l VF-39 e-bay TMIC APS 65mm cold air Pink Injectors catless up-pipe full 3" turbo back I like to see how this turbo blows the socks off the VF-39 even with the stock air box and basically a stock cat back Steve Last edited by Surfer Steve; 07-28-2009 at 10:18 PM. Reason: update to mods

07-29-2009, 01:28 AM	#24
Thom Scooby Specialist Member#: 152775 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: 2004 Wrx Java Black Pearl	Wow this is awesome! almost 280 whp on a TDO4. That is great! And full boost at 2700 rpms. Man screw the VF series i mean they are great turbos, dont get me wrong, but you cant get a VF series with that kind of spool and you make the same amount of power! and for 325 bucks, that is a lot of bang for your buck. Last edited by Thom; 07-29-2009 at 01:30 AM. Reason: stuff

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Audiosavvy Trust me, I'm a scientist Moderator Member#: 150794 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Bakersfield, CA Vehicle: Qcab dakota 4x4 LT1 Formula Firebird	Ok, as long as you've got that covered you should be good. I don't have any personal experience with that turbo, but it would be a cool experiment! Good luck.

10-24-2008, 02:20 AM	#5
seanathanq83 Scooby Specialist Member#: 173241 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston, Tx Vehicle: 2002 s256 twinscroll now with one more gear	hey i have really been looking into this, i talked to a guy and bought a turbo that i thought was a 19t wheel , ended up being a 16g wheel but what i found out, it that the TD04 wheel is to small, and you loose power over the whole power band, a better set up would be basicly what i have, its a TD04 exhaust housing bored to fit a TD04HL wheel, which is basicly a TD05, and then sticking the 19t or a 16g wheel on there , i believe the 19t is a 31lbs/hr wheel and the 16g is a 32.5lbs/hr wheel, with the 16g and TD04HL wheel i hit full boost by 2650, and at 12psi, im pushing more power that with the stock at 20psi, if you want, you can pm me and i can send you some of the links, and alot of the info i have found. forced performace sells the exhaust wheel for 237.50 , its the only place i could find it, but either way it will be a nice set up that has lots of power and the amount of spool up time of a reg TD04 also i will have a stock TD04 with like no play in it, in about a week and a half or so, and im in the houston area

07-28-2009, 03:39 AM	#7
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GDB FAN Scooby Guru Member#: 105814 Join Date: Jan 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Vehicle: two V8's.. 'murica	Impressive. Im considering this over my vf34. I miss stage 2 spool.

07-28-2009, 03:48 AM	#9
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07-28-2009, 02:10 PM	#11
Phat04WRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 59097 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles Vehicle: 04 WRX Java Black	thanks for that info. how does it feel on the street/freeway around 6k? does it pull nicely up in the higher rpms?

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07-28-2009, 05:57 PM	#17
SubyWill Scooby Specialist Member#: 166830 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, FL Vehicle: 2003 WRX WRB	i'm REALLY interested in this, there's no way i can send my stock turbo in for this? or do i buy the one off the site?

07-28-2009, 07:38 PM	#18
conrad87 Scooby Specialist Member#: 163884 Join Date: Nov 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Clearwater, FL Vehicle: 1999 Cobra	this is amazing. would really like to see some track times on this

07-28-2009, 08:07 PM	#19
Blouchturbo NASIOC Vendor Member#: 119764 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lebanon,PA Vehicle: 2006 STi WRB	The 19T is overlooked by many 2.0L customers that upgrade to a VF

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