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Old 05-12-2009, 10:06 PM   #2026
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my 08 wrx has about 15,000mi. on it and has been getting progressively crappier at shifting. i think its already time for redline.
Umm... Warranty? If it's starting to shift like crap, why haven't you brought it into the dealer? It shouldn't be shifting like crap after so few miles. You houldn't even have to change out the fluid till 30k miles.
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Old 05-12-2009, 10:13 PM   #2027
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my 08 wrx has about 15,000mi. on it and has been getting progressively crappier at shifting. i think its already time for redline.
Umm... Warranty? If it's starting to shift like crap, why haven't you brought it into the dealer? It shouldn't be shifting like crap after so few miles. You houldn't even have to change out the fluid till 30k miles.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:24 PM   #2028
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Thanks Uncle Scotty and Grimmspeed. The car feels great!
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:53 PM   #2029
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my 08 wrx has about 15,000mi. on it and has been getting progressively crappier at shifting. i think its already time for redline.
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That's absolutely ridiculous.
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Umm... Warranty? If it's starting to shift like crap, why haven't you brought it into the dealer? It shouldn't be shifting like crap after so few miles. You houldn't even have to change out the fluid till 30k miles.
way too many here believe in myths and wives tales

a hard driven car NEEDS fluids changed more often AS THEY DO WEAR OUT

and if you dont believe that.....go home and drive yer prius
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:26 PM   #2030
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after about 30k on uncle scotty's cocktail.



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Old 07-25-2009, 05:10 PM   #2031
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I have a DS1 1-5th built tranny, Dylan recommends using 100% Motul 300 but I had some difficulties getting into 1st and reverse.

I just order 4 bottles of Motul 300, should I mix it with something to try to fix the problem? on what percentages?

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Old 07-25-2009, 08:07 PM   #2032
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I have a DS1 1-5th built tranny, Dylan recommends using 100% Motul 300 but I had some difficulties getting into 1st and reverse.

I just order 4 bottles of Motul 300, should I mix it with something to try to fix the problem? on what percentages?

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Why don't you ask DS1?
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:16 PM   #2033
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:20 PM   #2034
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:41 PM   #2035
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I had Redline 75W90NS in my tranny for 25,000 miles. It always felt notchy, but the last couple thousand miles or so it was getting harder and harder to upshift without grinding especially going into fourth. It was also hard to get into first and reverse.

After a lot of research here and on other Suby forums I found a lot of fans of Subaru's 75W90 Extra S gear oil and Swepco's 201 80W90 gear oil. Well I decided to try the Swepco. I know that when fluids are new they usually make quite a difference for the better. This stuff seems to be following suit making the transmission easier to shift every time I drive it. I'm very happy with it so far, but I really need to go a few thousand miles and see how it holds up. The autocross coming up will be a good test.

I did learn something though. On my previous cars/trucks I would usually change out the tranny oil/fluid around 30,000 miles. However I tend to drive the Subaru harder and autocross. So instead I will not go as long between service. I will also change out at the first sign of synchro grind or when it gets difficult to put in gear now that I know what signs I'm looking for.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:42 AM   #2036
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Great stuff Uncle Scotty. Shifting is soooo smooth now
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:45 AM   #2037
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I think I'd change my driving habits personally, assuming you haven't already. Going into 1st from a roll isn't how the tranny was designed.
Agreed, not unless you want to seriously snap something. My rex has 43k and it won't go into 1st unless I'm completely stopped.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:02 AM   #2038
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Agreed, not unless you want to seriously snap something. My rex has 43k and it won't go into 1st unless I'm completely stopped.
Mine too. And having the 2.0 motor doesn't help it when I put it in 2nd when rolling slowly, the car struggles to go.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:55 PM   #2039
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Agreed, not unless you want to seriously snap something. My rex has 43k and it won't go into 1st unless I'm completely stopped.

I have never had ANY issues getting ANY gear at any reasonable speed for that gear

I can get(and got with my 02) 1st at 20mph with NO issue at all.

I guess there are a lot of 'people' out there that just dont have any idea how to actually DRIVE a manual transmission

THAT is what kills these transmissions....drivers that should be driving automatics and not breaking gearboxes thinking that they are ****ing RickyRacer
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:05 PM   #2040
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I can get my tranny into 1st all the way up to 35 mph(not that I would need to), however I do regularly go into 1st at 20 mph. If you think I'm lying, then like Uncle Scotty says above, YOU don't know how to drive stick, and you need to stay with automatics.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:03 PM   #2041
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I can get my tranny into 1st all the way up to 35 mph(not that I would need to), however I do regularly go into 1st at 20 mph. If you think I'm lying, then like Uncle Scotty says above, YOU don't know how to drive stick, and you need to stay with automatics.
I can ride my bike with no handlebars. Seriously? That's either the lamest post I've ever seen or I guess maybe I'm just not cool enough to appreciate your awesomeness.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:10 PM   #2042
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I have never had ANY issues getting ANY gear at any reasonable speed for that gear

I can get(and got with my 02) 1st at 20mph with NO issue at all.

I guess there are a lot of 'people' out there that just dont have any idea how to actually DRIVE a manual transmission

THAT is what kills these transmissions....drivers that should be driving automatics and not breaking gearboxes thinking that they are ****ing RickyRacer
Perhaps you could tell us all how to drive a 5sp correctly if it's something different then the following.

Press clutch, put gear lever into 1st gear. Let out clutch while applying gas.

I've tried double clutching, rev matching, etc to no avail. The cocktail, Extra S and 75w90 dino oil did nothing to help the 1st gear issue.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:16 PM   #2043
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If you double-clutch and rev-match, you can get into any gear at any speed for that gear. That's what Scotty means. And if it's not working, you just have to practice it - it isn't particularly easy to get the hang of, especially with the heavy stock flywheel. You need to be able to accelerate and decelerate the flywheel pretty quick or be patient with it. The problems that the cocktail helps with are synchro problems, and ultimate this is the way you shift a transmission without synchros. If you don't rely on them, they'll never wear out.

That said, downshift to 1st gear at 35mph would just be the stupidest thing to do since you'd probably miss half the time at high speed, and then you'd be past the powerband and needing to upshift to 2nd right away.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:30 PM   #2044
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Perhaps you could tell us all how to drive a 5sp correctly if it's something different then the following.

Press clutch, put gear lever into 1st gear. Let out clutch while applying gas.

I've tried double clutching, rev matching, etc to no avail. The cocktail, Extra S and 75w90 dino oil did nothing to help the 1st gear issue.
if the trans is already ****ed up and forced into gear due to poor technique.....forgetaboutit

cuz it aint gonna work......

but I can drive my car and others cars that know how to drive without any issue at all

so

the question is why can I do it and others can NOT????

I know the answer.....but kiddies dont like to hear that they just THINK they are Mario and know how to drive, when in all reality----they dont drive for ****...and **** up their transmissions and BLAME THE CAR FOR THEIR INABILITY TO MANIPULATE A MECHANICAL DEVICE PROPERLY

bloody wankers
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:39 PM   #2045
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The problems that the cocktail helps with are synchro problems,

This is and always has been

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and is the most utterly stupid wives tale on this board




What it does is stop grinding due to the WRONG FLUID BEING USED.....that caused grinding....which is NOT a mechanical issue being 'fixed' it is a symptom of the wrong lube being used in a mechanical device.

Put the right lube in and the grinding stops....this is and never has been any sort of 'cure' for stupid ****ers driving MT cars when they should have bought an automatic

damn it all to ****ing hell...when will this insanity stop

the fact that some get less grinding outa their ****ed up transmission by using any 'cocktail' AFTER THEY HAVE BEAT THE **** OUTA IT IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN THE INTENT OF THE 'COCKTAIL'....IT IS MERELY A COINCIDENCE



EVERYBODY GOT IT NOW????
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:26 PM   #2046
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Scotty, you remind me of the old man from Gran Turino

That aside, you've cursed me before, you've helped me also......

To be super clear, what was the original intent of your cocktail?

"Put the right lube in and the grinding stops...."? What if you didn't have grinding?
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:36 PM   #2047
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if the trans is already ****ed up and forced into gear due to poor technique.....forgetaboutit

cuz it aint gonna work......

but I can drive my car and others cars that know how to drive without any issue at all

so

the question is why can I do it and others can NOT????

I know the answer.....but kiddies dont like to hear that they just THINK they are Mario and know how to drive, when in all reality----they dont drive for ****...and **** up their transmissions and BLAME THE CAR FOR THEIR INABILITY TO MANIPULATE A MECHANICAL DEVICE PROPERLY

bloody wankers
I bought my car at 70k miles, so perhaps the previous owner neglected it; however, it was a 50yo architect who kept the car bone stock. I know that's no indication of wear, but the tranny has always acted like this.

What is the answer? I don't beat on my car, I drive pretty slowly and defensively. I'd just like to be able to downshift into 1st gear while coming to a light when it turns green or when going over speed bumps.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:32 AM   #2048
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No need to yell at me Scotty. I only meant to say that the shifting problems people are reporting are with the synchros. Grinding is a problem with the synchros spinning up, whether it be because they are beaten up, or the wrong fluid is used, or because the person doesn't know how to shift, doesn't change the fact that it's the synchros making the noise. Using the cocktail will help the synchros do their job better, whether they need the help or not.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:06 AM   #2049
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So, Scotty, a 3rd-to-4th grind developing in a conservatively driven, bone stock '04 WRX at 80k miles is or isn't going to be helped with a cocktail?
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