JDM Projector LHD 2 RHD beam correct kit

jbutler_02WRX · 11-03-2009, 08:09 PM

never heard of this before thought maybe some ppls would wanna check it out

WRX USA · 11-03-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jbutler_02WRX

never heard of this before thought maybe some ppls would wanna check it out

Do you have a link or is this a question?

PoorGuysSTi · 11-03-2009, 09:27 PM

I hate these kinds of threads, it hurts my brain.

ritky · 11-03-2009, 10:49 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-W...06159007r33826

kinda pricey

jbutler_02WRX · 11-03-2009, 10:57 PM

those are it.

jbutler_02WRX · 11-03-2009, 10:58 PM

i was just informing the ppl lol

Guglianoh · 11-03-2009, 10:58 PM

cant u just adjust them manually?

jbutler_02WRX · 11-03-2009, 11:03 PM

i dont know the details but RHD and LHD beams point at different directions down the road accommodating to which side you drive on. so... these reverse them im guessing. example being. ppl with JDM 02 headlights in the US. this would be a good investment i suppose.

scooby2.0t · 11-03-2009, 11:26 PM

Wow ive never seen these before. It seems like they do fix the beam pattern problem. Has anyone used these yet?

02boxer · 11-04-2009, 12:04 AM

there is already a thread or three floating around right now. Honestly, whats the point?? You have to open and completely disassemble the lamp to replace them. Why not, for not too much more in total cost with some careful shopping, do a tsx hid retro and get much better light??

chris

disaster999 · 11-04-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 02boxer

there is already a thread or three floating around right now. Honestly, whats the point?? You have to open and completely disassemble the lamp to replace them. Why not, for not too much more in total cost with some careful shopping, do a tsx hid retro and get much better light??

chris

this!

trex616 · 11-04-2009, 05:10 PM

The JDM HID's with the black chrome housing are PRETTY good. Im very impressed with mine and feel no need to upgrade. Ive compared them directly to BMW's and TL's and see very little difference in light cutoff or output. A retrofit is MORE work and MORE money, so I disagree with that statement.

disaster999 · 11-04-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trex616

The JDM HID's with the black chrome housing are PRETTY good. Im very impressed with mine and feel no need to upgrade. Ive compared them directly to BMW's and TL's and see very little difference in light cutoff or output. A retrofit is MORE work and MORE money, so I disagree with that statement.

your missing the point, sure cutoff and output might be the same, but the beam pattern is completely different. the jdm ones are RHD, we need LHD beam pattern. try driving around some back roads which has little to no road lights. you will wish you had the right pattern. i know i did which is why i went with the retros

fastwrx25 · 11-04-2009, 10:30 PM

those cutoff plates are too expensive imo.

these are the mods I've done to my bugeye rhd jdm halogen projectors in sequence

1. ebay 6000k hid kit w/ rebased h1 hid bulbs-blind oncoming drivers so I adjusted lights low and to the right. Even before adjusting lights, output was weak, spotty, patchy w/ glare, decent cutoff line but in wrong direction. honestly at that point the only thing I really liked was how the projectors change the look for the car. Output was very very unsatisfying, cant see around corners in mountains and off/on ramps. If I didn't have hella 500 fogs I things would've been alot worse.

2. I opened the lights and grinded the plates flat, this made things a bit better and didn't need to adjust the projectors low and to the right anymore, but the light output still sucks because of the halogen projector lenses and position that the rebased bulbs sit in the projector housing. the 6000k bulbs didn't help either. 4300-5000k the way to go.

3. one of the bulbs died within a yr and half(rebased bulbs are crap quality) and I didn't feel like buying new bulbs that often, and still unsatisfied with light output so I picked up tsx projectors, philips 4300k d2s bulbs, and pair of d2s bulb-->aftermarket hid ballast plug cable on ebay. I bought that cable to I could use my existing ebay hid ballast ignitors.

4. did tsx retrofit(didn't take pics...I should've) and oh mee lordie so much happier now. The lights work as good as they look. Finally happy and satisfied with light output. No complaints whatsoever.
the retrofit took a weekend of taking my time and running to the store. If you have questions on the mod feel free to pm me. I was going to make a diy thread but didn't take pics, but I have cpl pointers to make things easier.

btw I have a pair of the stock halogen projectors+housings+cutoff plates that I'm gonna post for sale soon.

Simes · 11-07-2009, 10:10 AM

May sound like a silly question, but why can't you just switch the factory L & R cutoff shields to the other side (respectively)?

psyber_0ptix · 11-07-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Simes

May sound like a silly question, but why can't you just switch the factory L & R cutoff shields to the other side (respectively)?

this is possible; just separate the housing/lens flip them. you may need to dremel a key 'notch' for it tp seat properly but i remember doing this many years ago.

among a bazillion other retrofits

Byzantium · 11-07-2009, 03:45 PM

That's pretty neat. If it were $100 cheaper I'd do it. $200 is too much. I can't really do a retrofit without messing with the black chrome finish.

02boxer · 11-07-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Simes

May sound like a silly question, but why can't you just switch the factory L & R cutoff shields to the other side (respectively)?

they are the same piece...both are designed to shine on the left side. This is a pic of 2 pairs of JDM shields, diff years, but the same none the less.

The only option I have ever thought of, as an alternative to grinding down the top of the shield to make it flat all the way across, is to go a step further and grind down the high side so it becomes the low side. Then mount it to the bowl from above (it bolts in from below normally).

chris

Simes · 11-08-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02boxer

The only option I have ever thought of, as an alternative to grinding down the top of the shield to make it flat all the way across, is to go a step further and grind down the high side so it becomes the low side. Then mount it to the bowl from above (it bolts in from below normally).

chris

That seems like a good idea Chris. I'm sure a machine shop wouldn't charge that much to properly mill the shields down.

And it looks like there's enough metal to do it.

Cheers,
Sime

Simes · 11-08-2009, 02:09 AM

By the way, if there's anybody who actually bought these, are you interested in selling me the JDM versions you've taken out? My car is right hand drive, but I have a set of US headlights.

Cheers,
Sime

Byzantium · 11-08-2009, 12:57 PM

^ ?

These are for HID (they only came in RHD) JDM headlights. They have EDM lights that are LHD drive but I somehow doubt that these would fit in halogen lenses. The only US lights are reflectors.

Quadsbc · 11-08-2009, 06:30 PM

Can you just Bake and flip the cutoff shield arround? go from \___ \___ to __/ ___/

It dosent matter to me, I s2000 retrofitted mine.

Ryan314 · 11-08-2009, 07:14 PM

$190? Screw that. I'd rather pay $200 more and get properly fitted TSX projectors from Lightwerkz.

And I also don't have the balls to bake and pull apart my $900 JDM projectors. No thanks.

02boxer · 11-08-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quadsbc

Can you just Bake and flip the cutoff shield arround? go from \___ \___ to __/ ___/

It dosent matter to me, I s2000 retrofitted mine.

no...it's a magnesium alloy (the dark grey ones) or so I was told my a machine shop owner....it won't bend so easily. Not to mention you'd have to bend over the mounting tab as well. You'd have better luck trying to make a mini blast furnace and mold and make your own

.

Retrofitting these lamps is seriously easy...it only take an afternoon of your time.

chris

trueno92 · 11-09-2009, 10:56 AM

cutoffs is a pretty touchy subject!

thing is, cutoffs between hondas and subaru edm/jdms are different.

I have seen edm cut offs and compared them to the car i was driving at the time, a bmw 335. in true European spec, both headlights looked like this:

______/-----/-------------

where the '/' is the focus point of each headlight.. the cutoffs are great with JDM lenses WITH EDM cutoffs if you are running HID light. I believe there is some difference between them as the EDM's were not designed for HID, so the lenses in the EDM projectors don't throw HID light as effectively.

now with the Hondas and tsx/s2000/and even rx300 lenses, it looks more like this

___________/--------------------------

where both beams are sorta focused at a single point, and there is a curtain of consistent light output below the cutoff.

apparently in Honda circles, EDM's must be in different parts of Europe than subaru because they actually aim for RHD roads!

I can take pics of HID EDM cutoff+ JDM lenses and the 335 against the garage door sometime, if it helps anyone.

thing is tho, all stock bmw projectors natively aim lower than the retrofits i have seen as they are intelligent, self-levelling and auto aiming when you turn the steering wheel and are grade-sensitive, so they adjust their height according to the angle of the road and pitch of the vehicle (on gas or on brake)

11-03-2009, 08:09 PM	#1
jbutler_02WRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 194032 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: las vegas nv Vehicle: 2002 wrx psm	JDM Projector LHD 2 RHD beam correct kit never heard of this before thought maybe some ppls would wanna check it out

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11-03-2009, 09:27 PM	#3
PoorGuysSTi Scooby Newbie Member#: 82160 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA	I hate these kinds of threads, it hurts my brain.

11-03-2009, 10:49 PM	#4
ritky Scooby Specialist Member#: 72285 Join Date: Oct 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Miami/Ft. Lauderdale Vehicle: 2003 WRX PSM w/FXHID FLA Turnpike > I-95	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-W...06159007r33826 kinda pricey

11-03-2009, 10:57 PM	#5
jbutler_02WRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 194032 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: las vegas nv Vehicle: 2002 wrx psm	those are it.

11-03-2009, 10:58 PM	#6
jbutler_02WRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 194032 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: las vegas nv Vehicle: 2002 wrx psm	i was just informing the ppl lol

11-03-2009, 10:58 PM	#7
Guglianoh Scooby Newbie Member#: 197791 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Vehicle: 1994 JDM WRX WRB	cant u just adjust them manually?

11-03-2009, 11:03 PM	#8
jbutler_02WRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 194032 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: las vegas nv Vehicle: 2002 wrx psm	i dont know the details but RHD and LHD beams point at different directions down the road accommodating to which side you drive on. so... these reverse them im guessing. example being. ppl with JDM 02 headlights in the US. this would be a good investment i suppose.

11-03-2009, 11:26 PM	#9
scooby2.0t Scooby Specialist Member#: 127092 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: salisbury,MD Vehicle: 2002 WRX WRB 6 Speed goodness	Wow ive never seen these before. It seems like they do fix the beam pattern problem. Has anyone used these yet?

11-04-2009, 12:04 AM	#10
02boxer Scooby Specialist Member#: 139853 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: the arsenal of democracy Mich. Vehicle: 2002 wrx, it's TSX'y silver	there is already a thread or three floating around right now. Honestly, whats the point?? You have to open and completely disassemble the lamp to replace them. Why not, for not too much more in total cost with some careful shopping, do a tsx hid retro and get much better light?? chris

11-04-2009, 05:10 PM	#12
trex616 Scooby Specialist Member#: 132365 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Tampa, Fl Vehicle: '00 WRX Pre Prodction #18 WRB	The JDM HID's with the black chrome housing are PRETTY good. Im very impressed with mine and feel no need to upgrade. Ive compared them directly to BMW's and TL's and see very little difference in light cutoff or output. A retrofit is MORE work and MORE money, so I disagree with that statement.

11-04-2009, 10:30 PM	#14
fastwrx25 Scooby Specialist Member#: 126441 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: california Vehicle: 02 bugeye	those cutoff plates are too expensive imo. these are the mods I've done to my bugeye rhd jdm halogen projectors in sequence 1. ebay 6000k hid kit w/ rebased h1 hid bulbs-blind oncoming drivers so I adjusted lights low and to the right. Even before adjusting lights, output was weak, spotty, patchy w/ glare, decent cutoff line but in wrong direction. honestly at that point the only thing I really liked was how the projectors change the look for the car. Output was very very unsatisfying, cant see around corners in mountains and off/on ramps. If I didn't have hella 500 fogs I things would've been alot worse. 2. I opened the lights and grinded the plates flat, this made things a bit better and didn't need to adjust the projectors low and to the right anymore, but the light output still sucks because of the halogen projector lenses and position that the rebased bulbs sit in the projector housing. the 6000k bulbs didn't help either. 4300-5000k the way to go. 3. one of the bulbs died within a yr and half(rebased bulbs are crap quality) and I didn't feel like buying new bulbs that often, and still unsatisfied with light output so I picked up tsx projectors, philips 4300k d2s bulbs, and pair of d2s bulb-->aftermarket hid ballast plug cable on ebay. I bought that cable to I could use my existing ebay hid ballast ignitors. 4. did tsx retrofit(didn't take pics...I should've) and oh mee lordie so much happier now. The lights work as good as they look. Finally happy and satisfied with light output. No complaints whatsoever. the retrofit took a weekend of taking my time and running to the store. If you have questions on the mod feel free to pm me. I was going to make a diy thread but didn't take pics, but I have cpl pointers to make things easier. btw I have a pair of the stock halogen projectors+housings+cutoff plates that I'm gonna post for sale soon.

11-07-2009, 10:10 AM	#15
Simes Scooby Newbie Member#: 138641 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Vehicle: 2002 STi Black	May sound like a silly question, but why can't you just switch the factory L & R cutoff shields to the other side (respectively)?

11-07-2009, 03:45 PM	#17
Byzantium Scooby Specialist Member#: 207826 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Katabatic Vehicle: 2002 WRX Correct Fitment Crew #034	That's pretty neat. If it were $100 cheaper I'd do it. $200 is too much. I can't really do a retrofit without messing with the black chrome finish.

11-08-2009, 02:09 AM	#20
Simes Scooby Newbie Member#: 138641 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Vehicle: 2002 STi Black	By the way, if there's anybody who actually bought these, are you interested in selling me the JDM versions you've taken out? My car is right hand drive, but I have a set of US headlights. Cheers, Sime

11-08-2009, 12:57 PM	#21
Byzantium Scooby Specialist Member#: 207826 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Katabatic Vehicle: 2002 WRX Correct Fitment Crew #034	^ ? These are for HID (they only came in RHD) JDM headlights. They have EDM lights that are LHD drive but I somehow doubt that these would fit in halogen lenses. The only US lights are reflectors.

11-08-2009, 06:30 PM	#22
Quadsbc Scooby Specialist Member#: 170415 Join Date: Jan 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: new hartford ct Vehicle: 2002 Impreza wrx ARMY GREEN on PSM	Can you just Bake and flip the cutoff shield arround? go from \___ \___ to __/ ___/ It dosent matter to me, I s2000 retrofitted mine.

11-08-2009, 07:14 PM	#23
Ryan314 Scooby Specialist Member#: 82989 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Maine Vehicle: 2002 WRX Black on Black	$190? Screw that. I'd rather pay $200 more and get properly fitted TSX projectors from Lightwerkz. And I also don't have the balls to bake and pull apart my $900 JDM projectors. No thanks.

11-09-2009, 10:56 AM	#25
trueno92 Scooby Newbie Member#: 111755 Join Date: Apr 2006	cutoffs is a pretty touchy subject! thing is, cutoffs between hondas and subaru edm/jdms are different. I have seen edm cut offs and compared them to the car i was driving at the time, a bmw 335. in true European spec, both headlights looked like this: ______/-----/------------- where the '/' is the focus point of each headlight.. the cutoffs are great with JDM lenses WITH EDM cutoffs if you are running HID light. I believe there is some difference between them as the EDM's were not designed for HID, so the lenses in the EDM projectors don't throw HID light as effectively. now with the Hondas and tsx/s2000/and even rx300 lenses, it looks more like this ___________/-------------------------- where both beams are sorta focused at a single point, and there is a curtain of consistent light output below the cutoff. apparently in Honda circles, EDM's must be in different parts of Europe than subaru because they actually aim for RHD roads! I can take pics of HID EDM cutoff+ JDM lenses and the 335 against the garage door sometime, if it helps anyone. thing is tho, all stock bmw projectors natively aim lower than the retrofits i have seen as they are intelligent, self-levelling and auto aiming when you turn the steering wheel and are grade-sensitive, so they adjust their height according to the angle of the road and pitch of the vehicle (on gas or on brake)