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Old 11-17-2009, 11:28 PM   #1
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How she sits right now:








Ok, here's a quick run down to catch people up:

February 7th: Cracked a ringland in the EJ20 in cyl #4
Feb-May: Slowly build up the 2.5L Hybrid (myself) with a brand new EJ257
End of May: Motor cranks up first try; 1,xxx mile break-in begins
June: Blow 2nd gear in the 5-speed
July: Replace 5-speed with JDM 6-speed
September: Break the bell-housing on the 6-speed
November: 2 cracked pistons lead to rapid oil consumption to spin rod bearings in cyl #2

# of times WRX has been towed since February: 8 and counting.


PRESENT DAY:

The WRX is currently at IAG Performance in Westminster, MD where all of the work is being done. The rod and crank were completely toast, so here is the work that has already been done. The BOLD parts are brand new, the rest are parts I already had.


EJ257 Shortblock
EJ20 Heads
OEM STI Headgaskets
ARP studs
08/09 STI Nitride Crank
SKAT Rods (1st motor IAG is using these rods in)
Manley 99.5mm Pistons
ACL Race Main/Rod Bearings
11mm Oil Pump
Custom IAG Oil Catch Can
STI Cams
Shimless Buckets
Gates Racing Timing Belt
New Oil Cooler
New WRX Oil Pan
DW 850cc Injectors
FP 20g 8cm^2 Turbo
Invidia Catless V2 Downpipe
P&L HighFLO Intake
IAG Oil Catch Can
TGV Deletes
TiAL 38mm EWG
Exhaust Mani/UP/DP/Dump Tube all thermal coated and DEI heat wrapped
Hallman Pro-RX MBC
NGK 1-Step Colder Plugs
Grimmspeed Thermostat
Grimmspeed 3mm Phenolic Spacers
Grimmspeed 3-Port BCS
Walboro 255 Fuel Pump
APS Turbo Inlet
CXRacing Aluminum Radiator
Group-N Motor Mounts
Group-N Tranny Mount



I know I'm forgetting some things right now, but it's late, i'm tired, so i'll update this tomorrow


-Andrew
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:36 PM   #2
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First off, the car:









The bad:












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Old 11-17-2009, 11:36 PM   #3
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Picked up an Invidia V2 DP. I wrapped it and coated it as well.







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Old 11-17-2009, 11:37 PM   #4
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:37 PM   #5
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might need it.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:37 PM   #6
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just in case.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:08 AM   #7
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ok, another.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:11 AM   #8
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:25 AM   #9
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hahah do you ever go to sleep?
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:03 AM   #10
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Damn Andrew, do you think both motors now went because of the tune?
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:38 AM   #11
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Yes sir I do. He unfortunately is the only common denominator in both of these motor failures. Both gone due to detonation? HMMMMMM...
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:32 AM   #12
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judas priest martha, this ones gettin outta control.
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:09 AM   #13
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what was the A/F ratio set at?


Thats a shame man, I was about to buy a cable and let them tune me soon also since I thought the first motor was a freak accident. BUT after seeing both of your motors go I'm just going to save up and probably go to DPS.

O and is your 16g done?, if not is it up for sale......I had to ask

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Old 11-18-2009, 11:37 AM   #14
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who did you tune with originally?
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:40 AM   #15
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i wont put the tuners name out in this thread so pm me if you still want to know. yea kahlil the 16g is up for grabs. lmk if you want it
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Old 11-18-2009, 11:42 AM   #16
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Holy crap. Thats insane..GL to ya.
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:40 PM   #17
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judas priest martha, this ones gettin outta control.
im assuming thats a good thing
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:41 PM   #18
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Holy crap. Thats insane..GL to ya.
what's insane? the damage or the build lol
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Are you going to have the combustion chambers in the head modified to improve power and reliability?

People try arguing with us all the time about how much better it is to fix the combustion chamber on hybrid builds. Well we proved it. 40whp more on pump gas than the previous tune on meth/water injection.

Please, do the work. Not doing it is what causes so many hybrids to fail. Even an awesome tune can't overcome the poor mechanics of the 2L chamber on a 2.5L bore.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:26 PM   #20
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Are you going to have the combustion chambers in the head modified to improve power and reliability?

People try arguing with us all the time about how much better it is to fix the combustion chamber on hybrid builds. Well we proved it. 40whp more on pump gas than the previous tune on meth/water injection.

Please, do the work. Not doing it is what causes so many hybrids to fail. Even an awesome tune can't overcome the poor mechanics of the 2L chamber on a 2.5L bore.
Want to elaborate a little bit on how you "fix" the combustion chamber?
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get it machined out alittle. i skipped this on my build and am having second guesses if i should rip it apart to redo it.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:37 PM   #23
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Maybe I need to get on the horn with IAG before they assemble the heads. I had asked when I was there yesterday if it was necessary to P&P and "fix" the chamber but we didn't talk too much about it.. so, I guess the ball is in their court.

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Old 11-18-2009, 01:37 PM   #24
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"not getting your 2.0 heads matched to the bigger bore. leaves i believe a tiny lip hangin over into the combustion chamber. which then creates uneven detonation aka dead spot on your piston. also when combusting instead of it being dead center of the piston it will vary anywhere on the face of your piston"

so i was told by someone.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:51 PM   #25
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I got side tracked and forgot to call IAG Guess it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
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