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Old 11-18-2009, 10:07 PM   #1
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As some may know my old 205 bit the dust a few months back. I picked up a full Version 8 EJ207 swap as a replacement, had it installed (thanks Tom!) and tuned by Junior the day before the EVO/WRX Shootout @ Etown in August. I ran it at the shootout (in 100+ degree temps) and it went ~12.9@108. I had been looking forward to running again in cooler temps and finally had the chance last Sunday. I'm still playing with launch RPM and learning shift points, but was able to click off one good run, 12.394@111.28. When I left the dyno for my tune, Junior said the car would go 111-113 in good weather and he was dead on. I'll say it again, his tunes are the best dollar for dollar mods I have ever had on any of my modded cars. Info, timeslips and in-car video below.

Event: Test and Tune
Location: Island Dragway (Great Meadows, NJ)
Ambient Temp: ~60
Elevation: ~515 feet above sea level
Weather: sunny
Track and Conditions: brand new asphalt, 5 days old
Tires: 205/55-16 RE92s

Car: 2004 WRX
Tuner: Junior of TheSHOP CT (Tuned at TurboTrix Dyno Day)
Dyno Info: Old ass dynojet
Peak HP at RPM: ~315 whp w/some correction due to 107 degree temps in dyno room
Peak Torque at RPM: ~300
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: No clue, maybe Jr. will post
Target Boost: 21psi
Target AFR:
Fuel: Q16
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Complete JDM Version 8 STi EJ207 engine w/VF37 twinscroll turbo
APS CAI
Perrin Afta MAF
Perrin Inlet
Helix TMIC
Grimmspeed P&P throttle body
TXS DSBC manual boost controller
Perrin crank pulley
Stock bellmouth/HKS hybrid downpipe (Thanks Evan@Akuma!)
MadDad intermediate pipe
Hayward and Scott (ScoobySport) backbox
Version 8 STi ECU
UTEC w/ another awesome Junior Tune
Driveline Modifications: SouthBend/DxD HD Stage 1 clutch (Perfect clutch at this power level, see review CLICK HERE)
Suspension Modifications: STi springs, Cobb endlinks
Other Modifications: JDM bumper beam, empty trunk (ran about 100 lbs heavier than usual due to more fuel and leaving back seats in)



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Old 11-18-2009, 10:38 PM   #2
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sick stuff man,

congrats
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:59 PM   #3
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Absolutely insane, well done


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Old 11-18-2009, 11:30 PM   #4
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Pretty crappy 60's I blame the tires...

Good runs I can only imagine with better tires really low 12s

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Old 11-18-2009, 11:53 PM   #5
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^^Some good 60's have been run on crappier tires... It just sounded like he was having to slip the clutch too much to me.

What rpm are you shifting at? I know this motor is good to 8k+, but I wonder where the turbo stops pulling...
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:09 AM   #6
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sick stuff man,

congrats
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Absolutely insane, well done
Thanks guys!

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Pretty crappy 60's I blame the tires...

Good runs I can only imagine with better tires really low 12s

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^^Some good 60's have been run on crappier tires... It just sounded like he was having to slip the clutch too much to me.

What rpm are you shifting at? I know this motor is good to 8k+, but I wonder where the turbo stops pulling...
Yeah, the 60's aren't great. I have run tons of low 1.7's on these tires previously, but I only have 6 runs on the new setup and I'm still figuring it out. It revs a bit more freely and the first time out I didn't realize and launched it at 7K, the clutch was . Although even with a perfect launch, without LC I think low 1.7's are all my 120K old, 300+ pass 5MT and diffs are capable of. Still playing with shift points, but it pulls pretty hard up top. I'll try to find the dyno printout, but I think I threw it out.
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:26 AM   #7
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Good job.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:57 AM   #8
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Good clean driving. I love these in-car vids.

I'm pleased for you. Especially after torturing yourself on two Sundays at Island Dragway for this.

Consider our Black Friday get together at Atco next week. Great talking with you, Dave!

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Old 11-19-2009, 06:09 AM   #9
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I will have to try to find my time slips to see what my 60' foot average was? I know I was in the 1.6's with it all stock with NeoGens but there were a lot of 1.7 and 1.8's in the mix
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:44 AM   #10
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nice job OL!
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:41 AM   #11
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Nice!! 1.5 tenths more off of the 60ft and you will be flirting with 11's, do it up!
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:49 PM   #12
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That's Nice power for a v8, just put in my V7 and getting tuned next week with
opensource on jdm ecu with avcs wired in
And running aquamist 2d should get some nice power
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:44 PM   #13
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Nice man! Good start for a new setup.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #14
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nice start with the new setup.......but arent u disappointed that u upgraded from a td04 to (what im assuming) a high dollar twin scroll setup and ur time is practically the same.....and u were on q16?

was the 315whp tune on q16? seems low for a vf on a dynojet on q16, no?

and the 21 psi seems low too.....some of the s203 roms i've seen are at 21-21.5 psi on the stock tune.

do u possibly have an overlay of the td04 tune vs the vf37 tune?

whats ur opinion on the new powerband compared to the old one?

and was this tune maxed out or did u just add the q16 at the track for safety?

not trying to be a downer or an ass, just curious.....
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:44 PM   #15
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Good job.
Thanks man, haven't seen you post much. You still have your WRX?

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Good clean driving. I love these in-car vids.

I'm pleased for you. Especially after torturing yourself on two Sundays at Island Dragway for this.

Consider our Black Friday get together at Atco next week. Great talking with you, Dave!

Best,

Coop
Thanks Coop, if the weather looks good on the 25th, then I'll pack the family in the WRX for Thanksgiving travel and be at Atco on the 27th. And thanks again for going out of your way for the Q16.



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I will have to try to find my time slips to see what my 60' foot average was? I know I was in the 1.6's with it all stock with NeoGens but there were a lot of 1.7 and 1.8's in the mix
Man, you would think the 60' was in the 2.0's with the comments from all of the hotshoes in here. I just checked through the ALL VF thread and there isn't one GD 5MT in the 1.6's (not even you Mr. 1.84 on your built 5MT Medina). I think you 6MT guys don't understand just how much the stock 5MT gearing and diffs suck for drag.

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Thanks ride!

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Nice!! 1.5 tenths more off of the 60ft and you will be flirting with 11's, do it up!
Thanks Mikey! Like I said above, a 1.6 isn't going to happen on my stock 5MT without making boost at the line with LC and LC will surely kill this trans. Over the winter I plan to go 6MT and I believe the car will be faster even with the weight hit.

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That's Nice power for a v8, just put in my V7 and getting tuned next week with
opensource on jdm ecu with avcs wired in
And running aquamist 2d should get some nice power
Thanks man, looking forward to your results, make sure you post them up. I plan to get my meth kit fixed up and will be retuned with it in the Spring. I'm not a fan of the race gas.

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Nice man! Good start for a new setup.
Thanks man, I'm very pleased with the start.

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nice start with the new setup.......but arent u disappointed that u upgraded from a td04 to (what im assuming) a high dollar twin scroll setup and ur time is practically the same.....and u were on q16?

was the 315whp tune on q16? seems low for a vf on a dynojet on q16, no?

and the 21 psi seems low too.....some of the s203 roms i've seen are at 21-21.5 psi on the stock tune.

do u possibly have an overlay of the td04 tune vs the vf37 tune?

whats ur opinion on the new powerband compared to the old one?

and was this tune maxed out or did u just add the q16 at the track for safety?

not trying to be a downer or an ass, just curious.....
This is why I love me some Phatron! I don't find your post to be a downer or assish, good questions that are making me go where I didn't want to go, guessing and saying the "c" word. Past experience tells me the car has at least 2 tenths in it just in better driving and yes, the 21 psi is very low on Q16. It was 107 in the dyno room and there was only one tiny fan, so the tune is conservative. I don't want to jinx myself by making predictions, but will say that Junior believes that the car has a TON more in it. Like I said above, I'm planning to put the meth back on and putting a 3" catback on it (it still has a 2.5" atm) and retuning closer to 25psi in the Spring. On the race gas, the car is better in every way over the previous 205/td04 setup. On pump, the torque is a bit lower then I would like.
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:54 PM   #16
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the bright side is ur already setup for ts when atp releases the stock location ts gt30 and 35
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:09 AM   #17
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the bright side is ur already setup for ts when atp releases the stock location ts gt30 and 35
Man you really got something for ATP huh. Ever make up your mind about your SL 30/35R?
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:18 AM   #18
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nice setup. that's what i want when i do my swap.
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Old 11-20-2009, 07:33 AM   #19
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I love scoobysport, as a previous owner, but it sounds terrible on twin scroll

great times though!
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:12 AM   #20
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Rocking the left lane at Island, that video looks so much like mine its crazy. Run looks good, a better launch and 11.9 is yours. Did you flat shift 3rd?
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:09 PM   #21
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Man you really got something for ATP huh. Ever make up your mind about your SL 30/35R?
well.....tell me another turbo company developing a stock location twin scroll turbo and i'll get a chubby for them.

as far as the stock location turbos go.....stock location isnt a requirement and im not considering anything below 56 lbs/min.

My plan is to replace the HTA Green on my wrx with something larger and then put the HTA Green on my STi and sell my OG Green.

Im almost pulling the trigger on juan's rotated kit....but he hasnt responded to my last pm.

As far as SL goes the dom4xtr, ATP35 and the Red are about my only choices. ATP vs dom4 is a coin flip in my book......Red is there if i wanna go cheap but will probably be hindered up top with the 8cm compared to the other 2.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:10 PM   #22
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^ I just woke up

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Old 11-20-2009, 12:12 PM   #23
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u lazy bastard....isnt it noon there?
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:23 PM   #24
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Man, you would think the 60' was in the 2.0's with the comments from all of the hotshoes in here. I just checked through the ALL VF thread and there isn't one GD 5MT in the 1.6's (not even you Mr. 1.84 on your built 5MT Medina). I think you 6MT guys don't understand just how much the stock 5MT gearing and diffs suck for drag.
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I agree, but I blame my horrible 60's on my inexperience at the track, my heavy 18X9.5 wheels with crappy Korean tires, and setting my suspension as stiff as possible; not allowing any weight transfer.

With that horrible setup my best 60' was 1.75, I changed the suspension setting for the shootout and I launched a couple of times on the streets and it felt awesome I think a high 1.6' is possible with the suspension adjustment. I have forge front LSD that should get me out the hole quicker.

I was just comparing your 60's to your old 60's

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Yes, late night with the girlfriend.....
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:26 PM   #25
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oh yeah.

so you were all

and she was all

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