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Old 12-15-2009, 02:21 PM   #1
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Default Hybridz forum: Probably the worst!

I am a brand new forum member on the Hybridz site. I just received this infraction with no warnings whatsoever. They are seriously forum nazis over there! I re read my posts and the only thing I was really missing was capitalizing the first letter of sentences! wtf?

"Dear Tanuki,

You have received an infraction at HybridZ.

Reason: Violation of Forum rules
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Per the rules agreed to, we do not allow IM text shortcuts in posts and we do expect members to use basic sentence structure with capitalization. Not college level grammar, just grade school level sentence structure!
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This infraction is worth 20 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

All the best,
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:24 PM   #2
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I'm all about enforcing intelligent communication... but it's pretty funny that they'd take that tack when the name of the site isn't even proper English.
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:39 PM   #3
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^I am a fan of proper grammar etc, but in reality these are forums. The interwebz are like where the wild west disappeared to when the last frontiers were finally civilized! Also they should realize that no one takes the time to really read the entire forum rules. That being said we are talking about capitalizing sentences! Who really cares! If we are about enforcing grammar than you better believe I expect the green underline squiggle to tell me changes need to be made!
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:52 PM   #4
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I expect you to site your references using ATA format. If you don't I believe it's all plagiarism and it didn't happen.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:06 PM   #5
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They are very strict about the rules, so it is important that you read them.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:10 PM   #6
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It makes me want to join and write bad grammmmaaarrrrr.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:12 PM   #7
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ok, I joined!
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:13 PM   #8
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Here are the rules just in case I forget and have to refer to them later.

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HybridZ Forum Rules - READ NOW BEFORE POSTING!

1. The purpose of this site is to discuss TECHNICAL topics that pertain to the modification of the Datsun/Nissan Z cars (240Z, 260Z, 280Z, 300ZX, 350Z). No thoughtful modification that enhances performance or styling will be put down. The philosophy is one of "parts is parts" - it doesn't matter what automaker originally made the parts, if you think that using those parts on your Z will add to it's performance or cosmetic appeal. But the emphasis is on FUNCTION, not the addition of graphics, wings, etc. to only make the Z LOOK like it is a high performance car. However, everyone has their own ideas of what stylish modifications look good or bad.

2. Please use the search function before you do anything else. The search button can be found at the top of the page. Use several keywords if you don't find what you need right off the bat. Remember: Just about every possible topic and problem has been posted and answered, in most cases several times. The Members on this board are very helpful and a great crowd of Z enthusiasts, but answering the same questions over and over again gets old.

3. Please make a good effort to post a topic "subject" title that is pertinent and descriptive of the subject that you want to convey. When you post a thread with a title like “I need help” this makes it harder for the next guy to find what he is looking for when they try to search the database. It is impossible to know what that thread is about so it must either be skipped over or opened to check the content. The title of your post is not the place to be VAGUE!!!

4. There is no Best! No best tires. No best engine. No best shock. No best big chrome foot gas pedal. Every car builder and driver is in a different situation. What's good for one might suck for another. The decision on what is "best" for you and your car is completely up to you. As with any decision time, effort, and research is needed by the decision maker - you! Instead of asking what is "best", do some research, explain your situation in excruciating detail, and describe what alternatives you're considering in your decision. Posting a thread with "What's the best..." in the title it is a sure way to get that post tossed into the Tool Shed.

5. This site is based in the USA, and as such, text is to be written in English. There are web sites available on the web that can translate text from many recognized official languages to English, if you don't know it. (But then how could you read this? ) Gangster-slang, or any other cute, obtuse, street-talk dialects are not tolerated. Write in clear English that does not require a current knowledge of the latest street-slang. Text message or IM shorthand does not qualify as English. Always try to use proper punctuation, spelling AND capitalization.

6. If you have any real information to add to a post, or another related question about the same topic, please post. Please be sure to read the ENTIRE thread before you post so that you will understand the topic and direction the thread is heading. Otherwise, don't post if you are just guessing, or just wanting to interject an unsolicited opinion and/or sounding like you have the definitive answer. Most folks like to get solid advice, and opinions on what ‘may’ be the correct direction are usually not helpful or wanted. Sometimes opinions will be requested, but these posts are easily recognized. This includes non constructive posts in an effort to increase your post count!

7. Remember, this is a Hybrid site. Do not ever get on the purist Datsun/Nissan soapbox or promote Datsun/Nissan only swaps. The Admins/moderators will not tolerate this. The mere mention of keeping your Z "all Datsun" will be frowned upon. Several other sites exist for this mindset.

8. While we are on the subject, we want you to stay off of your religious or political soapboxes as well. Religious or political topics should be avoided. Any posts that stray into the realm of politics and religion will be closed and/or deleted. This is a car website, so let’s keep it focused on cars.

9. Please post questions, comments, etc under the correct forum topic heading, and only post in one forum. For example, if you have a Chevy V8Z and have a question/comment on suspension setup, or drive train setup, etc, don't post it in the Chevy V8 section. Also, read the guidelines in the For Sale section.

10. Links to ebay auctions will be permitted in the Non-Tech forum only. This is not technical information, so it should not be posted in a technical forum. All other selling should be done through the classified forum, see rules that apply to the classifieds below.

11. If you are planning a V8 swap into a Z (esp. SBC), please order the swap manual from http://www.jagsthatrun.com/ . Although this manual is specific to the early Z, it would be helpful to any swap.

12. Don't make personal attacks if someone disagrees with you, and don't take advice given personally. Typed text has no intonation, or expression and the members on this board sometimes come off as being rude, or impolite. Generally this is not the case, so please be a little thick skinned when advice is given that you may not agree with.

13. Admins have been tasked with correcting mistakes and telling people to stop unwanted behavior. This can offend some people who do not take correction well. Do not make personal attacks on the administrators. Feel free to disagree with the admin staff on technical issues regarding the Z, but when the attacks become personal the immediate and permanent response will be banning the user.

14. If you frequently log in just read what's going on in HybridZ land, you may find the function "view posts since last visit" is generally the best bet. It will save you time instead of opening each forum individually.

15. Keep signature pics below 500 pixels wide and 100 tall please!

16. If you are still unsure as to the functions of the site, feel free to Private Message "PM" a moderator or Admin. You will find a link to send a Private message by finding one of their posts and clicking on their name.


Enjoy your time on HybridZ.org. To many of us it's like a second home, and we try to keep it "tidy". Just think of you behavior on this site as if you were visiting someone else’s house.....good manners are always appreciated.




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1. To post an ad in the "Parts For Sale section", you must have been a member of HybridZ for a minimum of 30 days AND have 40 posts to your credit.

2. Use of the Classifieds is limited to private individuals only. Commercial advertising is not permitted.

3. This is for selling parts/product, but please keep posts to a PG-13 nature.

4. Please be descriptive in your ad title. Ad titles such as “Cleaning out shed!”, “Misc parts!”, “Parts Wanted!” “Looking for!” are too vague and will be deleted.

5. When selling an item, you MUST publicly state your asking price and location, or your post will be deleted.

6. No Bidding for items - HybridZ is not an auction site. If a seller posts a fixed price they must sell at that price and not turn the sale into a bidding contest. If a seller posts a link to an auction site the auction must be conducted on that site.

7. HybridZ Classifieds are used to buy parts/product. NOT to tell sellers you can get it cheaper somewhere else. You can place a lower offer to the seller, but statements of "being over price" will not be tolerated.

8. The administrators of HybridZ.org take no responsibility for the conduct of members on this forum.

9. For security reasons, we strongly recommend that you use PayPal when buying parts from private individuals online.

10. If you place an ad and find later that it has disappeared you can safely assume that you violated one of the above rules.
No notification will be given.

11. Please give your ads at least 5 days between bumps. Frequent bumping such as every day will get your ad deleted!

12. After your item/s have sold, please close your ad.



HybridZ Vendor / Group Buy Rules


HybridZ provides space for Z-car vendors to showcase their parts and services without requiring any qualifications. A vendor might be a full time business devoted to making Z parts, or a guy in his garage producing a one off piece of fiberglass work. The fact that a vendor is posting on the forum means nothing in terms of their responsibility as a businessperson, the quality of their products, etc.
HybridZ is not affiliated in any way with supporting those businesses other than allowing them to post their parts and services. Those vendors must abide by the same rules and guidelines as the rest of the membership, which includes post content, behavior, and administrative discipline.
If you have a bad transaction with a vendor, please follow the rules established for our site when posting. Posting regarding a positive or negative experience that you have had with a vendor has always been acceptable, but Hybrid Z will not allow flame wars between vendors and customers. Posts regarding experiences with vendors do have value to our membership and can also be useful for vendors. This is not overly complicated, and if the current rules are followed there should be no problems.
If you have a bad transaction, or can't get a hold of a vendor for any reason, and you feel the need to vent to the board your frustrations, then PLEASE read the rules prior to posting your feelings and keep it as professional and mature as possible. No temper tantrums.
Rules for Vendors.
1. You must be selling products specific to the Datsun/Nissan Z market and preferrably focused on modifying the Datsun/Nissan Z.
2. You must bring tech to all discussions outside of the Vendors section. No topics or replies that just advertise your product (with exception of one topic/post announcing the availability of a new product or service). Replies or topics must contribute to the discussion in a positive manner.
3. You must not directly criticize another vendor's products or services. Tech brought to discussions about the benefits/drawbacks of various approaches to increasing the performance of HybridZs is fine, but saying your products are better then Joe's or Joe's products suck is not acceptable.
4. You must not hijack another vendor's thread to advertise product. When in doubt, don't contribute to a specific discussion about a competitor's products.
5. You can include link's in your HybridZ sig to your web site, your products, third party product reviews, etc. as long as they comply with HybridZ's sig rules.
6. Screw one of the HybridZ members and you're toast. But, we do realize there are two sides to every story so we want to hear what happened before putting you in the toaster.
7. When in doubt, use a low key, tech/education approach when posting on this board. Respect and credibility come with time and results, not with hyperbole and marketing speak.
8. New rule regarding Group Buys:
A Group Buy is a purchase of an EXISTING product by a number of people with the intent of reducing the per unit price by combining their purchasing power.
We support those kinds of transactions and the Rota wheel buy is one example of it going well, even though there were a few bumps along the way.
What is no longer allowed on HybridZ is Externally Funded Product Development.
This is where a number of people pool their money and fund the development and production of a NON-EXISTENT or HIGHLY MODIFIED item by a third person with the intent of receiving those items after the development and production cycle is completed.
Any threads that solicit funds for Externally Funded Product Development will be deleted immediately and the original poster warned.
As usual, these rules are subject to change without notice. Thank you for your understanding!
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:16 PM   #9
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oh, tanuki I said you refered me
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:35 PM   #10
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They probably just hate your style. People can sense if you get laid or not over the internet. True story.

For more info on "hating" or "haters" please refer to Snoop Dog's or Katt Williams work over the years.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:35 PM   #11
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I cited one of that mods for saying something about the "tires life" rather than "tire's life" and he pm d me threatening to ban me because I am "taunting him." Ha ha what a joke. Serious e business!
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:42 PM   #12
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I am a brand new forum member on the Hybridz site. I just received this infraction with no warnings whatsoever. They are seriously forum nazis over there! I re read my posts and the only thing I was really missing was capitalizing the first letter of sentences! wtf?

"Dear Tanuki,

You have received an infraction at HybridZ.

Reason: Violation of Forum rules
-------
Per the rules agreed to, we do not allow IM text shortcuts in posts and we do expect members to use basic sentence structure with capitalization. Not college level grammar, just grade school level sentence structure!
-------

This infraction is worth 20 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

All the best,
HybridZ"
Pretty bold going to another public forum to slander another forum for slapping your hand because you violated the rules to which you agreed to before you could even post. So because you got your hand slapped due to your own laziness in not actually reading the rules you agreed to, you feel wronged to the point of slandering that forum on another forum?

1) Did you not accept the rules of that forum? (Of course you did. No one can post on that forum without clicking accept.)
2) Is it not clearly stated in those rules regarding the use of IM text short cuts and capitalization and punctuation?
3) Do you honestly feel that when someone agrees to a set of rules that that person should be allowed to freely violate those rules right from the get go?
4) Do you honestly feel it is the staffs responsibility to remind members that they violated the rules to which they made the concision choice to click ACCEPT to without any form of discipline?

Remember, your acceptance of those rules is purely voluntary. If you don’t like the rules set in someone else’s house, you are not obligated to party there.

I wonder how the staff of this forum view member slandering other forums? …

Best of luck drumming up sympathy for your lack of discretion. ;-)
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:55 PM   #13
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Cool story bro!
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:58 PM   #14
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:11 PM   #15
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He even managed to find the report thread button. Seriously stalking me on another site because you don't like my grammar? Should I get the restraining order set up now or should that wait o rly u no enjoi bad grammarz?
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:15 PM   #16
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Pretty bold going to another public forum to slander another forum for slapping your hand because you violated the rules to which you agreed to before you could even post. So because you got your hand slapped due to your own laziness in not actually reading the rules you agreed to, you feel wronged to the point of slandering that forum on another forum?

1) Did you not accept the rules of that forum? (Of course you did. No one can post on that forum without clicking accept.)
2) Is it not clearly stated in those rules regarding the use of IM text short cuts and capitalization and punctuation?
3) Do you honestly feel that when someone agrees to a set of rules that that person should be allowed to freely violate those rules right from the get go?
4) Do you honestly feel it is the staffs responsibility to remind members that they violated the rules to which they made the concision choice to click ACCEPT to without any form of discipline?

Remember, your acceptance of those rules is purely voluntary. If you donít like the rules set in someone elseís house, you are not obligated to party there.

I wonder how the staff of this forum view member slandering other forums? Ö

Best of luck drumming up sympathy for your lack of discretion. ;-)
I'm with you 100%, let's put an end to internet idiocy!
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:15 PM   #17
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This guy is a tool bag.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:15 PM   #18
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I have now received the maximum number of points allowed on http://www.hybridz.org (was banned) for no reason. They sure do run a tight ship over there. They are the masters of the interwebz apparently. The sad part is I can't even talk to another mod on the site about the treatment I am receiving over bad grammar. This forum (Nasioc) is not a part of their forum so anything I say here should not reflect their points system.

Here is my final PM I received from Mr Stalker pants:
BRAAP has a spectacular aura aboutBRAAP has a spectacular aura aboutBRAAP has a spectacular aura about

Default Re: You have received an infraction at HybridZ
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All I am saying is that if a moderator makes grammatical errors, than you should have a bit more tolerance with new members. You should issue warnings before issuing points. I am new maybe you should welcome me before being a total Nazi. Don't threaten me either. Don't talk about how grown up and mature you are when you are acting just as childish as I am.


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Regarding your taunting in this thread;
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...73#post1103073

If you would like to remain a member of this forum, it would behoove you to actually read those rules as your public taunting of the staff is covered in #12.
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Terribly sorry. Could you please hyperlink me to the post in question? Didn't know we were such elitists here. No warnings or anything? Just points like that?
Here is the thread in question;
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...85#post1102685

This should help explain our position on the giving of warnings vs infractions;
1) Our rules must be accepted before any one is allowed to post. Clicking accept to those rules means you will at least abide by those rules, even though you may not agree them.
2) Our policy regarding IM text short cuts and capitalization and punctuation are covered in those rules, as well as the 2 links at the bottom of this post.
3) We do not allow members to freely violate those rules.
4) It is not the staffs responsibility to continually remind members that they violated the rules to which they made the concision choice to click ACCEPT to.

Keep in mind that your acceptance of those rules is purely voluntary. No one is obligated to like or agree with the rules, but if they do agree to them, we expect them to abide by what they agreed to.

These two links will help shed some light on our views of the basic sentence structure;
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=131518

http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=139501

No threats. The rules cover disciplinary action which the staff will act upon accordingly.

Speaking of childish, how about that cry baby whining you did slandering this forum on another forum? Smooth, real smooth. You just keep digging yourself a deeper hole...
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:16 PM   #19
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240sxguy probably told them about this thread. I call him out as the rat.
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He even managed to find the report thread button. Seriously stalking me on another site because you don't like my grammar? Should I get the restraining order set up now or should that wait o rly u no enjoi bad grammarz?
No, you should just write like you are somewhat educated from now on. It's not difficult and makes you look smarter.
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I'm so ****ing tired of bitches like this. Get a ****ing life.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:19 PM   #22
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^That is true. I just think it is funny because I wasn't even speaking in IM language etc. That would be like: ok c u l8r!

edit: I am not banned, but the infraction was bad enough that I can only send a pm every 30 minutes
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I'm so ****ing tired of bitches like this. Get a ****ing life.
I can see why you would "thunk" that. "old 97 GC stage 9.5 Will sale $75k Pm offers" <--- Will sale, very nice!

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^That is true. I just think it is funny because I wasn't even speaking in IM language etc. That would be like: ok c u l8r!
Don't get me wrong, I think a warning with points towards a ban is rather excessive. But presenting yourself well on forums isn't a bad thing.
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^I do agree with that. Generally I do try to speak and type well. The post in question, uses "u" rather than "you" so I suppose that makes sense.

Honestly though, tracking someone down on a forum that is 1 million times bigger than yours to mod them? rly? haha

On top of everything else, they allow a lot of grammatically incorrect thread titles/ posts etc. Makes me wonder how I posted incorrectly once and got hit with points. They are very inconsistent to say the least. Makes for bad leadership when you can't be consistent!
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He even managed to find the report thread button.
Having a beef with someone is one thing, but slandering any forum on another forum is just bad form

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Seriously stalking me on another site because you don't like my grammar? Should I get the restraining order set up now or should that wait o rly u no enjoi bad grammarz?
Stalking... lol nah... That's for psycho's. Just calling out the cry baby trying to drum up sympathy for getting his hand slapped...



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I'm so ****ing tired of bitches like this. Get a ****ing life.
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