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Old 01-12-2010, 01:49 PM   #1
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:03 PM   #2
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Here's other news for AT&T users...

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Dell, AT&T Plan New Android Phone Based on Mini 3
Richard Koman, newsfactor.com Richard Koman, newsfactor.com Wed Jan 6, 5:02 pm ET

A day after Google launched its Nexus One Android-based smartphone, Dell and AT&T announced another first -- Dell's first mobile handset for the U.S. The new Android phone, which has yet to be finalized, is based on the Mini 3 phone Dell sells in China. That phone is a 3.5-inch, 640x360, touchscreen phone with a three-megapixel camera.

"The Mini 3 is a result of listening to customers and creating products that allow people to do the things they want, whenever and wherever they want to do them," said Ron Garriques, president of Dell Communication Solutions.

The deal for AT&T to be the carrier for the Dell phone appears to have been in place for quite some time. Ralph de la Vega, CEO of AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets, had mentioned a Dell smartphone, though the company later said he misspoke.

More Pressure on AT&T's Network

Dell's choice of AT&T may be bad news for iPhone users if the phone takes off. AT&T's network has well-documented problems with 3G. "Given all the complaints with the network, it's going to exacerbate that because Android users are similar to iPhone users in being heavy users of the network," said Greg Sterling, principal analyst with Sterling Market Research.

The release of yet another Android phone -- following quickly after Google's Nexus One and Motorola's Droid -- is ample proof of the broad adoption of the platform. "It's quite dramatic," Sterling said. "While you could view this as expected because of Google's engineering skill, Android seems to be more successful than most people would have anticipated."

Left out in the cold is Windows Mobile. "Microsoft is really getting hammered by the success of Android," Sterling said. "Every few weeks we hear about a new Android handset, a new feature." While handset makers like HTC are doing both Android and Windows Mobile phones, "you just don't hear much about Windows," Sterling said.

Android Fragmentation

The rise of Android has coincided with the explosion of the mobile market. Just six months ago, there was a lot of skepticism about mobile, but a recent Morgan Stanley report that called mobile potentially bigger than the web has driven enthusiasm for the mobile market.

Despite all Android's success, the biggest name in mobility is by far the iPhone -- Apple's breakthrough device that changed the definition of how people use smartphones -- and the world of mobile is playing out as Apple vs Google, instead of Microsoft vs Google, Sterling said.

One issue for Android is fragmentation -- some handsets will get the benefits of the new Android 2.1 operating system, but some older phones won't be able to run the upgrade. At the Nexus One event, Google spokespeople said most phones would be able to run 2.1.

"In that scenario, hardware becomes the differentiating factor," Sterling said. "Consumers will choose phones based on camera, keyboard and other software layers manufacturers may offer."

All of this represents a clear shift away from carriers to handset makers -- or more properly the Silicon Valley companies that control the operating systems. "The carriers are being reduced to just ISPs," Sterling said.

"New Android phones will keep coming out, the evolution won't stop," Sterling said. "Google is helping to build out the infrastructure to support the usage, and they're also being aggressive in stopping others from marginalizing them."
how long until AT&T's network totally fails under the load of all these data intensive devices?
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:05 PM   #3
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i m still waiting for someone to port android to the palm pre
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:56 PM   #4
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I have the HTC Hero on Sprint and love it so far. I'm still getting over not having a physical keyboard, my last phone was a Motorola q9c.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:57 PM   #5
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:09 PM   #6
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I have the HTC Hero on Sprint and love it so far. I'm still getting over not having a physical keyboard, my last phone was a Motorola q9c.
Since I'm still under contract with AT&T I'm torn between waiting, breaking my contract, or importing a Canadian HTC Dream, Magic or Hero (Canada's Rogers telco uses the same 3G as AT&T, so the phones will work on either). All I hear is praise for the Hero, and the prices on Ebay seem to be falling steadily, so I might go that route.


I'm wondering what the major differences are between the Magic (aka MyTouch 3G) and the Hero?
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:10 PM   #7
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Get a Mac.

<-- Is unsure of his iPhone loyalty.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:13 PM   #8
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Android FTW!
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:17 PM   #9
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Here's other news for AT&T users...



how long until AT&T's network totally fails under the load of all these data intensive devices?
Dell in phones....I wonder if that will turn out like Dell did in pocketPC's
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:19 PM   #10
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:36 PM   #11
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Looks like, according to latest news, that Android 2.1 will be out for the Moto Droid Jan 17th.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:03 PM   #12
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It was supposed to be out before then, sometime this week.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:04 PM   #13
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It was supposed to be out before then, sometime this week.
what I read said maybe sooner, but definitely by the 17th.
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Ya'll are losers, don't you know that owning an Android device is like owning a puppy? A cute, adorable puppy?



http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/12/microsoft-calls-android-free-like-a-puppy-we-cant-decide-if/
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:23 PM   #15
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HUURRRR iPHONE >>>>>> ALL ANDEROIDD!!!!!


UNNNFF!!!!!!!!!







Ok, now that we got it out of the way hopefully we can stay on topic
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:27 PM   #16
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Ya'll are losers, don't you know that owning an Android device is like owning a puppy? A cute, adorable puppy?



http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/12/microsoft-calls-android-free-like-a-puppy-we-cant-decide-if/
wait was I supposed to get a free puppy when I bought my N1? Sonofabitch.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:29 PM   #17
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HUURRRR iPHONE >>>>>> ALL ANDEROIDD!!!!!


UNNNFF!!!!!!!!!
TBH, Android fanboys (at least the commenting ones) are just as bad, if not worse, than iPhone fanboys. We get some retarded people getting all offended every time we don't heap praise on an Android device.
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TBH, Android fanboys (at least the commenting ones) are just as bad, if not worse, than iPhone fanboys. We get some retarded people getting all offended every time we don't heap praise on an Android device.
They must be worse because Apple fanboys are satisfied with your daily Apple talk. Is there a day without an Apple topic there? At least you aren't as bad as Gizmodo with their Apple sections everywhere.
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They must be worse because Apple fanboys are satisfied with your daily Apple talk. Is there a day without an Apple topic there? At least you aren't as bad as Gizmodo with their Apple sections everywhere.
Actually we post more about Android than Apple:

http://www.engadget.com/tag/apple

http://www.engadget.com/tag/android
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Ba-ZING!

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Actually we post more about Android than Apple:

http://www.engadget.com/tag/apple

http://www.engadget.com/tag/android
I can't see everything due to blockage. There a number there? And is it fair to say that is only recently since the hype of Nexus One? Also, does apple tag include all iphone articles?

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I can't see everything due to blockage. There a number there? And is it fair to say that is only recently since the hype of Nexus One? Also, does apple tag include all iphone articles?
It chunks posts into 20 on a page. The Android page only goes back to 1/8. The Apple page goes back to 12/30. You have to go 3 pages back to hit an Android post on 12/30, meaning we've had 3x as many Android posts than Apple posts.

If you want anything apple inclusive or iphone you can go here:

http://www.engadget.com/tag/iphone%7Capple

Still more for Android.

Going back to Nov before the Nexus One hype really hit we still had 30% more Android posts than Apple posts in that month.
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Default Re:This here is the Android OS thread. All phones, news, general info welcome.

Soooo... moving on. Anyone try the new Android forum app yet? It's.... different, but easier than the web interface, and no more double posts.



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im on there now and im not sure if I like it yet.



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does that app integrate with the browser or is it a whole separate deal?
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