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Old 07-28-2010, 04:51 PM   #1
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Exclamation felony use of a go pro

Sixteen Years in Prison for Videotaping the Police?
http://www.mclu.org/node/653

Here's the video: (pulled over at the end)

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Old 07-28-2010, 04:53 PM   #2
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:56 PM   #3
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Wow excessive with the gun draw, especially since earlier that POS honda was in-step with the rider...

BUT, he was speeding, and also posted his speed further incriminating him.

Why would someone post this on youtube? That's just asking for trouble...I'd rather just pay the ticket rather than house raided and booked etc.

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Old 07-28-2010, 07:48 PM   #4
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still that is pretty scary ****.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:00 PM   #5
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That's not excessive at all IMO. The motorbike started to back up , looking as though it would drive away or even ride towards the cop. The only thing is that the cop wasn't easily identifiable when he pulled up or got out of the car (unless he had flashers that I didn't see). The gun was never pointed at the driver and it was only pulled when the rider started to back up. He looked behind him at the cop car making me think that he maybe knew it was a cop?

Anyways, doesn't seem like a big deal to me and I'd be surprised if they get anywhere with the court case. One big meh.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:39 PM   #6
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there is no indication he is a cop until the gun is pulled....


america scares me.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:49 PM   #7
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Well, the sound is muted until the cop gets out of the car, how do we know he didn't use a siren?
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:18 PM   #8
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Don't mess with US cops boy ...
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:11 PM   #9
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meh, i guess its not too big of a deal that the cop pulled the gun...kinda dumb if u ask me....

but what's ****ed is that they're trying to give him 16 years in prison.....for videotaping....

i think cops should be videotaped at all times.....maybe that would keep them a little more accountable...cause they sure as hell cant keep themselves accountable now....bunch of ****ing retards. I wish I could get drunk on my job, drive around and then get a paid vacation.....

i used to have a lot of respect for cops...its sad that a few have ruined it for them all, but thats life


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Old 07-28-2010, 11:37 PM   #10
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:59 PM   #11
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:02 AM   #12
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^ must be a popular spot to go for spirited drives.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:03 AM   #13
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Ya I wasn't sure that was a cop at all, even if he says he is till I see the state trooper behind him. If I was on a bike and some guy pulls up like that in front/beside of me I would think maybe it's just some random I might have pissed off...I would roll back to thinking the guy wanted to fight or something. The cop was just trying to control the situation to keep the biker from running because once a bike is a block away it might as well be ten miles away.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:45 AM   #14
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i think cop should show the badge rather than a gun!
and u don't threaten with the gun some one who
simply went over the speed limit
big deal!
f...ng cops in the states treat every one as a terrorist!
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:56 AM   #15
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i think cop should show the badge rather than a gun!
and u don't threaten with the gun some one who
simply went over the speed limit
big deal!
f...ng cops in the states treat every one as a terrorist!
??? When did he threaten him with the gun? He pulled it out as the guy was backing up on the bike and never aimed it at him or threatened him, and as soon as the biker stopped the cop re-holstered it. It was barely out for more than 5 seconds if that. The guy on the bike (the cop would argue) was n possession of a deadly weapon (motorbike) and the gun was drawn as a precaution in case the bike tried to hit him. And at what point did he treat him like a terrorist?
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:25 AM   #16
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I don't think you get the full story. There was a marked police unit behind the cyclist when he turns. Plain clothed guy probably just got there or was following until the marked police car showed up. Hard to say. US cops always have their guns out. I know cause I watch COPS
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??? When did he threaten him with the gun? He pulled it out as the guy was backing up on the bike and never aimed it at him or threatened him, and as soon as the biker stopped the cop re-holstered it. It was barely out for more than 5 seconds if that. The guy on the bike (the cop would argue) was n possession of a deadly weapon (motorbike) and the gun was drawn as a precaution in case the bike tried to hit him. And at what point did he treat him like a terrorist?
well, i'm sure the american police manual says -
"when u get out of the car in plain clothes pull a gun out of holster "
but if it's just me and some mean looking guy on the street
and he shows me his gun i'd take it as a threat
otherwise what's the reason for flashing a weapon?
i'm sick and tired of "deadly weapon" thing
sooo convinient for the cops!
anything can be used as a deadly weapon
i repeat - any thing
i was shown once how to make a deadly weapon from a newspaper
that can crush ur scull
u can take ur shirt off and strangle the guy
does it mean u're in possession of "deadly weapon"
oh!
not mentioning stapler
without any doubts for that u're gonna be killed by cops in vancouver airport
no questions asked

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Old 07-29-2010, 02:59 AM   #18
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^ must be a popular spot to go for spirited drives.
If you ever get the chance to drive in southern California you must head onto Mulholland Dr. for a little while. It's an awesome twisty, windy road that follows the mountains outside LA. Worth the trip.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:19 AM   #19
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If you ever get the chance to drive in southern California you must head onto Mulholland Dr. for a little while. It's an awesome twisty, windy road that follows the mountains outside LA. Worth the trip.
Just out of curiosity, how much ticket runs for if you go sidewise in front of cop? Any jail time? Just want to be prepared :-)

As far for po-po in first clip, well I will probably run him over if he jump from a car like that with out identifying him self yelling state police, state police and flashing gun in front of your face set 90% people to defensive mode. I hope he got fired for this.
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:26 PM   #20
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Dude was speeding but it wasn't overly excessive nor was he creating havoc behaving like the "Ghost Rider". So to cut him off with a tinted Ford and jump out with a gun and NO uniform, NO identification?? That's just messed up! If not for the police car behind him, I wouldn't blame a law-abiding citizen trying to wheel away.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:16 AM   #21
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??? When did he threaten him with the gun? He pulled it out as the guy was backing up on the bike and never aimed it at him or threatened him, and as soon as the biker stopped the cop re-holstered it. It was barely out for more than 5 seconds if that. The guy on the bike (the cop would argue) was n possession of a deadly weapon (motorbike) and the gun was drawn as a precaution in case the bike tried to hit him. And at what point did he treat him like a terrorist?
why though? a badge would have been much more effective....

and honestly...a motorbike a deadly weapon? If you feel threatened by a dude on a motorbike then you're just plain pathetic...a retarded 6 year old with 1 leg could hop out of the way of a bike coming at you from dead stop....

and everyone dogs on "american cops"....but ours are no better, driving around drunk, murdering people in the airport because they have a stapler....(i guess a stapler is a deadly weapon too eh?)....
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:47 AM   #22
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I love the generalizations and exaggerations that are thrown around when talking about the coppers. Any vehicle is considered a "deadly weapon" due to the speeds and damage they can cause. In this instance obviously it would have a hard time being deadly. That being said, of course pulling the badge or flashing some lights would have been wise but we are also not privy to the whole story and there COULD be more to it than we know (guy on bike could have had a history or made threatening gestures before stopping...who knows...and really...who cares) A cop pulled his gun, no harm no foul.

As for our cops not being any better/different. Could you please explain how the RCMP incident at the airport was murder? At what point did they plan to kill him? Out of the number of police in greater Vancouver, how many have been caught/charged with DUI?

I'm actually pretty tired of cops getting bashed all the time. I know and you know that there are some "bad cops" but by FAR the majority are good people doing a very tough job. I am a firm believer that we should not criticize them until we have walked a mile in their shoes. At a minimum go for a ride along. I have some friends who are cops, paramedics and fireman and I think it is RIDICULOUS what crap they have to put up with in order to perform their job. My friend who is a FIREMAN got DOODOO thrown at him when he was helping a crack addict who was OD'ing because other douchebags figured they were arresting the guy (since the coppers had arrived), when their SOLE and ONLY concern was to save a guys life.

Then we get the Olympics where you have these buttplugs that come here just to cause trouble and "protest" by smashing windows, bothering citizens trying to enjoy the games and the cops have to deal with them with kiddie gloves. LAME. And it's because of whiners like YOU!

Obviously there needs to be a line of what conduct is acceptable but far too often we get know where near that before people start making a stink because it infringes on their personal space or inconveniences them.
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Pulling a gun on a guy for speeding is crossing that line imho.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:13 PM   #25
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Pulling a gun on a guy for speeding is crossing that line imho.
The point is we don't know if that was the sole reason for pulling the gun, if it WAS it was because he was attempting to evade (even though he most likely didn't know the dude was a cop right away). But due to the sound be low and not seeing everything we really can't make that determination.
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