felony use of a go pro

clarkbw · 07-28-2010, 04:51 PM

Sixteen Years in Prison for Videotaping the Police?
http://www.mclu.org/node/653

Here's the video: (pulled over at the end)

YouTube- Cop Pulls Out Gun On Motorcyclist

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ack154 · 07-28-2010, 04:53 PM

Welcome to April this year.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1973319

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notjustforshow · 07-28-2010, 04:56 PM

Wow excessive with the gun draw, especially since earlier that POS honda was in-step with the rider...

BUT, he was speeding, and also posted his speed further incriminating him.

Why would someone post this on youtube? That's just asking for trouble...I'd rather just pay the ticket rather than house raided and booked etc.

iht · 07-28-2010, 07:48 PM

still that is pretty scary ****.

tora · 07-28-2010, 08:00 PM

That's not excessive at all IMO. The motorbike started to back up , looking as though it would drive away or even ride towards the cop. The only thing is that the cop wasn't easily identifiable when he pulled up or got out of the car (unless he had flashers that I didn't see). The gun was never pointed at the driver and it was only pulled when the rider started to back up. He looked behind him at the cop car making me think that he maybe knew it was a cop?

Anyways, doesn't seem like a big deal to me and I'd be surprised if they get anywhere with the court case. One big meh.

FunkMasta · 07-28-2010, 08:39 PM

there is no indication he is a cop until the gun is pulled....

america scares me.

tora · 07-28-2010, 08:49 PM

Well, the sound is muted until the cop gets out of the car, how do we know he didn't use a siren?

tryallzee · 07-28-2010, 09:18 PM

Don't mess with US cops boy ...

Jeff54 · 07-28-2010, 10:11 PM

meh, i guess its not too big of a deal that the cop pulled the gun...kinda dumb if u ask me....

but what's ****ed is that they're trying to give him 16 years in prison.....for videotaping....

i think cops should be videotaped at all times.....maybe that would keep them a little more accountable...cause they sure as hell cant keep themselves accountable now....bunch of ****ing retards. I wish I could get drunk on my job, drive around and then get a paid vacation.....

i used to have a lot of respect for cops...its sad that a few have ruined it for them all, but thats life

/rant

tora · 07-28-2010, 11:37 PM

Here's some more close incidents with coppers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBTGgT_V5F8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6em1G-Gxhpo

CyborgX_CZ · 07-28-2010, 11:59 PM

Do you know why I pulled you over?

shum_87 · 07-29-2010, 12:02 AM

^ must be a popular spot to go for spirited drives.

dasnowman · 07-29-2010, 12:03 AM

Ya I wasn't sure that was a cop at all, even if he says he is till I see the state trooper behind him. If I was on a bike and some guy pulls up like that in front/beside of me I would think maybe it's just some random I might have pissed off...I would roll back to thinking the guy wanted to fight or something. The cop was just trying to control the situation to keep the biker from running because once a bike is a block away it might as well be ten miles away.

alexinvancouver · 07-29-2010, 12:45 AM

i think cop should show the badge rather than a gun!
and u don't threaten with the gun some one who
simply went over the speed limit
big deal!
f...ng cops in the states treat every one as a terrorist!

tora · 07-29-2010, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexinvancouver

i think cop should show the badge rather than a gun!
and u don't threaten with the gun some one who
simply went over the speed limit
big deal!
f...ng cops in the states treat every one as a terrorist!

??? When did he threaten him with the gun? He pulled it out as the guy was backing up on the bike and never aimed it at him or threatened him, and as soon as the biker stopped the cop re-holstered it. It was barely out for more than 5 seconds if that. The guy on the bike (the cop would argue) was n possession of a deadly weapon (motorbike) and the gun was drawn as a precaution in case the bike tried to hit him. And at what point did he treat him like a terrorist?

alan ling · 07-29-2010, 01:25 AM

I don't think you get the full story. There was a marked police unit behind the cyclist when he turns. Plain clothed guy probably just got there or was following until the marked police car showed up. Hard to say. US cops always have their guns out. I know cause I watch COPS

alexinvancouver · 07-29-2010, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tora

??? When did he threaten him with the gun? He pulled it out as the guy was backing up on the bike and never aimed it at him or threatened him, and as soon as the biker stopped the cop re-holstered it. It was barely out for more than 5 seconds if that. The guy on the bike (the cop would argue) was n possession of a deadly weapon (motorbike) and the gun was drawn as a precaution in case the bike tried to hit him. And at what point did he treat him like a terrorist?

well, i'm sure the american police manual says -
"when u get out of the car in plain clothes pull a gun out of holster "
but if it's just me and some mean looking guy on the street
and he shows me his gun i'd take it as a threat
otherwise what's the reason for flashing a weapon?
i'm sick and tired of "deadly weapon" thing
sooo convinient for the cops!
anything can be used as a deadly weapon
i repeat - any thing
i was shown once how to make a deadly weapon from a newspaper
that can crush ur scull
u can take ur shirt off and strangle the guy
does it mean u're in possession of "deadly weapon"
oh!
not mentioning stapler
without any doubts for that u're gonna be killed by cops in vancouver airport
no questions asked

clarkbw · 07-29-2010, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shum_87

^ must be a popular spot to go for spirited drives.

If you ever get the chance to drive in southern California you must head onto Mulholland Dr. for a little while. It's an awesome twisty, windy road that follows the mountains outside LA. Worth the trip.

CyborgX_CZ · 07-29-2010, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarkbw

If you ever get the chance to drive in southern California you must head onto Mulholland Dr. for a little while. It's an awesome twisty, windy road that follows the mountains outside LA. Worth the trip.

Just out of curiosity, how much ticket runs for if you go sidewise in front of cop? Any jail time? Just want to be prepared :-)

As far for po-po in first clip, well I will probably run him over if he jump from a car like that with out identifying him self … yelling state police, state police and flashing gun in front of your face set 90% people to defensive mode. I hope he got fired for this.

blandguy · 08-01-2010, 08:26 PM

Dude was speeding but it wasn't overly excessive nor was he creating havoc behaving like the "Ghost Rider". So to cut him off with a tinted Ford and jump out with a gun and NO uniform, NO identification?? That's just messed up! If not for the police car behind him, I wouldn't blame a law-abiding citizen trying to wheel away.

Jeff54 · 08-02-2010, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tora

??? When did he threaten him with the gun? He pulled it out as the guy was backing up on the bike and never aimed it at him or threatened him, and as soon as the biker stopped the cop re-holstered it. It was barely out for more than 5 seconds if that. The guy on the bike (the cop would argue) was n possession of a deadly weapon (motorbike) and the gun was drawn as a precaution in case the bike tried to hit him. And at what point did he treat him like a terrorist?

why though? a badge would have been much more effective....

and honestly...a motorbike a deadly weapon? If you feel threatened by a dude on a motorbike then you're just plain pathetic...a retarded 6 year old with 1 leg could hop out of the way of a bike coming at you from dead stop....

and everyone dogs on "american cops"....but ours are no better, driving around drunk, murdering people in the airport because they have a stapler....(i guess a stapler is a deadly weapon too eh?)....

tora · 08-02-2010, 09:47 AM

I love the generalizations and exaggerations that are thrown around when talking about the coppers. Any vehicle is considered a "deadly weapon" due to the speeds and damage they can cause. In this instance obviously it would have a hard time being deadly. That being said, of course pulling the badge or flashing some lights would have been wise but we are also not privy to the whole story and there COULD be more to it than we know (guy on bike could have had a history or made threatening gestures before stopping...who knows...and really...who cares) A cop pulled his gun, no harm no foul.

As for our cops not being any better/different. Could you please explain how the RCMP incident at the airport was murder? At what point did they plan to kill him? Out of the number of police in greater Vancouver, how many have been caught/charged with DUI?

I'm actually pretty tired of cops getting bashed all the time. I know and you know that there are some "bad cops" but by FAR the majority are good people doing a very tough job. I am a firm believer that we should not criticize them until we have walked a mile in their shoes. At a minimum go for a ride along. I have some friends who are cops, paramedics and fireman and I think it is RIDICULOUS what crap they have to put up with in order to perform their job. My friend who is a FIREMAN got DOODOO thrown at him when he was helping a crack addict who was OD'ing because other douchebags figured they were arresting the guy (since the coppers had arrived), when their SOLE and ONLY concern was to save a guys life.

Then we get the Olympics where you have these buttplugs that come here just to cause trouble and "protest" by smashing windows, bothering citizens trying to enjoy the games and the cops have to deal with them with kiddie gloves. LAME. And it's because of whiners like YOU!

Obviously there needs to be a line of what conduct is acceptable but far too often we get know where near that before people start making a stink because it infringes on their personal space or inconveniences them.

alan ling · 08-02-2010, 01:00 PM

I agree with Tora

FunkMasta · 08-02-2010, 01:35 PM

Pulling a gun on a guy for speeding is crossing that line imho.

tora · 08-02-2010, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunkMasta

Pulling a gun on a guy for speeding is crossing that line imho.

The point is we don't know if that was the sole reason for pulling the gun, if it WAS it was because he was attempting to evade (even though he most likely didn't know the dude was a cop right away). But due to the sound be low and not seeing everything we really can't make that determination.

07-28-2010, 04:56 PM	#3
notjustforshow Scooby Specialist Member#: 143277 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Richmond Vehicle: 05 STI PPP OBP 1098, Z1000	Wow excessive with the gun draw, especially since earlier that POS honda was in-step with the rider... BUT, he was speeding, and also posted his speed further incriminating him. Why would someone post this on youtube? That's just asking for trouble...I'd rather just pay the ticket rather than house raided and booked etc. Last edited by notjustforshow; 07-28-2010 at 05:03 PM.

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07-28-2010, 04:53 PM	#2
ack154 Scooby Newbie Member#: 253100 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Upstate NY Vehicle: 2011 WRX Premium WRB Hatch	Welcome to April this year. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1973319 http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/19/m...-gun-with-hel/

07-28-2010, 07:48 PM	#4
iht Scooby Specialist Member#: 196742 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5rs Silver	still that is pretty scary ****.

07-28-2010, 08:00 PM	#5
tora Scooby Guru Member#: 5851 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 09 Forester XT + NA Miata	That's not excessive at all IMO. The motorbike started to back up , looking as though it would drive away or even ride towards the cop. The only thing is that the cop wasn't easily identifiable when he pulled up or got out of the car (unless he had flashers that I didn't see). The gun was never pointed at the driver and it was only pulled when the rider started to back up. He looked behind him at the cop car making me think that he maybe knew it was a cop? Anyways, doesn't seem like a big deal to me and I'd be surprised if they get anywhere with the court case. One big meh.

07-28-2010, 08:39 PM	#6
FunkMasta Scooby Specialist Member#: 66985 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Coquitlam, B.C. Canada Vehicle: 2001 2.5RS sold 2012 2.0 Hatch	there is no indication he is a cop until the gun is pulled.... america scares me.

07-28-2010, 08:49 PM	#7
tora Scooby Guru Member#: 5851 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 09 Forester XT + NA Miata	Well, the sound is muted until the cop gets out of the car, how do we know he didn't use a siren?

07-28-2010, 09:18 PM	#8
tryallzee Scooby Specialist Member#: 179947 Join Date: May 2008 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Langley B.C. Vehicle: '04 WRX Wagon 97' Integra	Don't mess with US cops boy ...

07-28-2010, 10:11 PM	#9
Jeff54 Scooby Specialist Member#: 129503 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: reppin fort langleeey Vehicle: 2002 It's resting 6 > 4?	meh, i guess its not too big of a deal that the cop pulled the gun...kinda dumb if u ask me.... but what's **ed is that they're trying to give him 16 years in prison.....for videotaping.... i think cops should be videotaped at all times.....maybe that would keep them a little more accountable...cause they sure as hell cant keep themselves accountable now....bunch of **ing retards. I wish I could get drunk on my job, drive around and then get a paid vacation..... i used to have a lot of respect for cops...its sad that a few have ruined it for them all, but thats life /rant

07-28-2010, 11:59 PM	#11
CyborgX_CZ Scooby Specialist Member#: 145351 Join Date: Apr 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Flat4NC Vehicle: 0000 RIP 2006 STi 04 FXT / 02 C5Z06	Do you know why I pulled you over?

07-29-2010, 12:02 AM	#12
shum_87 Scooby Specialist Member#: 129898 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver, BC Vehicle: 2001 Impreza OBP	^ must be a popular spot to go for spirited drives.

07-29-2010, 12:03 AM	#13
dasnowman Scooby Specialist Member#: 125450 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Tricities, B.C. Vehicle: Gone 07 SWP STi LTD 07 Nissan Nismo 4x4	Ya I wasn't sure that was a cop at all, even if he says he is till I see the state trooper behind him. If I was on a bike and some guy pulls up like that in front/beside of me I would think maybe it's just some random I might have pissed off...I would roll back to thinking the guy wanted to fight or something. The cop was just trying to control the situation to keep the biker from running because once a bike is a block away it might as well be ten miles away.

07-29-2010, 12:45 AM	#14
alexinvancouver Scooby Specialist Member#: 251482 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Surrey, BC Vehicle: 2000 2.5RS silver 2011 Lexus, 1990 all-trac	i think cop should show the badge rather than a gun! and u don't threaten with the gun some one who simply went over the speed limit big deal! f...ng cops in the states treat every one as a terrorist!

07-29-2010, 01:25 AM	#16
alan ling Scooby Specialist Member#: 5233 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Surrey, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2005 STi C'Dale Rize Carbon 2	I don't think you get the full story. There was a marked police unit behind the cyclist when he turns. Plain clothed guy probably just got there or was following until the marked police car showed up. Hard to say. US cops always have their guns out. I know cause I watch COPS

08-01-2010, 08:26 PM	#20
blandguy Scooby Newbie Member#: 54093 Join Date: Feb 2004 Vehicle: 04 wrx silver	Dude was speeding but it wasn't overly excessive nor was he creating havoc behaving like the "Ghost Rider". So to cut him off with a tinted Ford and jump out with a gun and NO uniform, NO identification?? That's just messed up! If not for the police car behind him, I wouldn't blame a law-abiding citizen trying to wheel away.

08-02-2010, 09:47 AM	#22
tora Scooby Guru Member#: 5851 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 09 Forester XT + NA Miata	I love the generalizations and exaggerations that are thrown around when talking about the coppers. Any vehicle is considered a "deadly weapon" due to the speeds and damage they can cause. In this instance obviously it would have a hard time being deadly. That being said, of course pulling the badge or flashing some lights would have been wise but we are also not privy to the whole story and there COULD be more to it than we know (guy on bike could have had a history or made threatening gestures before stopping...who knows...and really...who cares) A cop pulled his gun, no harm no foul. As for our cops not being any better/different. Could you please explain how the RCMP incident at the airport was murder? At what point did they plan to kill him? Out of the number of police in greater Vancouver, how many have been caught/charged with DUI? I'm actually pretty tired of cops getting bashed all the time. I know and you know that there are some "bad cops" but by FAR the majority are good people doing a very tough job. I am a firm believer that we should not criticize them until we have walked a mile in their shoes. At a minimum go for a ride along. I have some friends who are cops, paramedics and fireman and I think it is RIDICULOUS what crap they have to put up with in order to perform their job. My friend who is a FIREMAN got DOODOO thrown at him when he was helping a crack addict who was OD'ing because other douchebags figured they were arresting the guy (since the coppers had arrived), when their SOLE and ONLY concern was to save a guys life. Then we get the Olympics where you have these buttplugs that come here just to cause trouble and "protest" by smashing windows, bothering citizens trying to enjoy the games and the cops have to deal with them with kiddie gloves. LAME. And it's because of whiners like YOU! Obviously there needs to be a line of what conduct is acceptable but far too often we get know where near that before people start making a stink because it infringes on their personal space or inconveniences them.

08-02-2010, 01:00 PM	#23
alan ling Scooby Specialist Member#: 5233 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Surrey, BC, Canada Vehicle: 2005 STi C'Dale Rize Carbon 2	I agree with Tora

08-02-2010, 01:35 PM	#24
FunkMasta Scooby Specialist Member#: 66985 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Coquitlam, B.C. Canada Vehicle: 2001 2.5RS sold 2012 2.0 Hatch	Pulling a gun on a guy for speeding is crossing that line imho.