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Old 08-12-2010, 11:48 PM   #651
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Oh I know it really is a 2.5i package, but it also supposedly has a more "rugged" suspension for all that driving in the woods we do hauling our bikes to tops of mountains. But, they do throw in an awful lot of options into the package like heated seats, bigger wheels, bumper underguards, etc. All those options separately would make cost a lot more than the base price of the OBS, at least in the States. I agree, if the price was right I would have considered those Canadian options as well.
Unfortunately, the "raised" suspension that we get on the OBS is really only .2 inches over the 2.5i. That's easily take care of with the 17 inch wheel package we get. As far as I have been able to tell, there is no difference at all between the 2.5i and OBS suspension.
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Old 08-13-2010, 11:01 AM   #652
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That Aussie Impreza looks bangin with the different colored fender flares...cool find!
I agree. That's really sharp looking.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:15 PM   #653
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That Aussie Impreza looks bangin with the different colored fender flares...cool find!
Saw this on the japan subaru site, it looks like a mini legacy outback
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:08 PM   #654
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Alright I just drove my 2011 OBS back from the dealer and will edit this post with pictures in a bit.

I tried the bluetooth audio streaming with my android phone, which is a nice feature even though I'll probably just stick to using the auxiliary input with my iPod.

The stereo seems decent, assuming you don't listen to FM/AM radio, but I'll probably add/replace some audio equipment depending on how I feel after listening to more music. I think the under-seat subwoofer might be a good option. Some of you guys seem to recommend it.

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This is a picture of the new stereo from cars101.com

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Old 08-14-2010, 08:48 PM   #655
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Congrats, man. I wish I had those features in my '08
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:00 AM   #656
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Does anyone notice the doors rattling or creaking because of the speakers? I'm not talking about blasting the stereo, but even at comfortable listening levels (not loud by any stretch).
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:26 AM   #657
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Ohhhhhh yes. I have many dash, pillar, and hatch rattles. Not from the speakers, I think. You come to live with them
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:40 AM   #658
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I've got an '09 OBS. I don't have any squeaks or rattles...except...
Yes, the door panels rattle because of the speakers, right in the lower center. Like Shrimpanzee said, even at comfortable levels. If you push on the door pocket, the rattle goes away. I just haven't gotten around to doing anything about it. The dealership didn't seem to interested in fixing it, either. "Oh yeah, we've seen that. Nothing you can really do".
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Alright I just drove my 2011 OBS back from the dealer and will edit this post with pictures in a bit.

I tried the bluetooth audio streaming with my android phone, which is a nice feature even though I'll probably just stick to using the auxiliary input with my iPod.

The stereo seems decent, assuming you don't listen to FM/AM radio, but I'll probably add/replace some audio equipment depending on how I feel after listening to more music. I think the under-seat subwoofer might be a good option. Some of you guys seem to recommend it.

EDIT: Here ya go...

Congrats! I like the new blue a lot better than the 08-10 blue. Seems a little darker and the color looks deeper.
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:45 PM   #660
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If you push on the door pocket, the rattle goes away. I just haven't gotten around to doing anything about it. The dealership didn't seem to interested in fixing it, either. "Oh yeah, we've seen that. Nothing you can really do".
Yeah that's the only way I've been able to make it stop also. I had this same kind of problem with my BMW (in fact it was worse), which I fixed by opening up the door panel and wedging a tennis ball between the door frame and the paneling. If I figure something out, I'll let you all know.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:30 PM   #661
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Does anyone notice the doors rattling or creaking because of the speakers? I'm not talking about blasting the stereo, but even at comfortable listening levels (not loud by any stretch).

Not in mine. I like the color.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:23 AM   #662
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Nope, everything seems solid in my '10 OBS and I listen to the stereo at a fairly loud volume (30+). No rattles that I've noticed.

In other news, my Subie loves my Kona.



My brother did a damn nice job with the touch-up paint on the rear driver's wheel well. Can't even tell I was badly scraped in this pic.
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:18 AM   #663
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:07 PM   #664
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Hi guys, first post for me, but I spent the last 20 minutes or so reading back in this thread. I'm going to be getting the OBS, hopefully this weekend, but wanted to pick your collective brain regarding some of the accessory options. (btw, sorry if this is improperly posted... seems most of the OBS discussion is in this thread, even for the new ones)

First of all, by way of background, this quite the surprise for me. My wife is getting ready to have our second child, and I was just getting comfortable with the notion of having to just live with my old '00 Hyundai Accent GLS with the busted AC compressor. We just paid off our other car, so a replacement for the Accent was definitely on the horizon... but I was thinking something used, possibly in the 10-12k range. SWMBO then dropped a bomb on me asking, "Why are you looking at those? You may go up to 20k..." Once we got to that point, it wasn't difficult to convincer her to "slightly extend" that 20k number to account for tax, tags, etc... and perhaps a few other options, though I'm not trying to press the issue too much if I don't have to. She's still very much pregnant and I don't want to get her to come to her senses and have me make a responsible decision.

That said, my usual MO is to go mostly stock everything, and then make incremental upgrades as funds allow. This way, I kind of get to see how much of this stuff I really want, plus it helps me hide the true cost from the Mrs. a little bit (though, I suspect she actually knows what's going on.) Here's the list of things I was considering getting from the dealer. Do any of these things stick out to you as something that would be better off being done at the time of purchase rather than a later upgrade?
  • Short throw shifter. This one I kind of wanted to put off. I can probably find one cheaper than the dealer price, and it looks like a fun install.
  • Sport grill. As far as I can tell, this is a total vanity option, which I'm cool with. But, since it seems that I'd end up getting this through the dealer eventually anyways, might I just go ahead and get them to do that now? This doesn't seem like a fun install, plus I'd have to figure out what to do with the old part.
  • auto dim mirror with compass. I'm guessing that this would be difficult to do after-the-fact. I'm not sure how much use I'd get out of the compass, so really it comes down to how much would the auto-dim feature be to me? I could probably do without it.
  • Center console extension. This one I'm torn on. I think I would like the extra storage, and it seems I'd be more comfortable with the extra height, but really I won't really know that until I've had the car for at least a little while... it might end up I preferred it the way it originally came.
  • Front end cover (car bra). My accent is all torn up on the front hood, so this seems like something I might enjoy. I figure if I wait on this, I'm sure to get a chip or two in the mean time. Website lists at about $120... Which seems reasonable compared to other things I've seen online, but I've got no basis for comparison in terms of quality.
One more thing to make a long post longer... Seeing as I'll now have two kids to deal with, anybody out there have experience in fitting one infant (rear facing) child carrier and one toddler car seat in these things? From other posts, it looks as if I can get it to fit, but I'm wondering what types of impact that'll have on front seat leg room. This isn't really a deal breaker for me, as we have a larger "family car" (Tuscon), I was just curious how others have found it. Thanks in advance.
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Here's my take on some of your topics.

The center console extension has nothing to do with more storage. It just pushes the armrest forward and up so you can actually use it vs. the stock position. I have it and it's worth getting.

I like the auto dim mirror. If you don't plan on getting tint, it is a good purchase as I have it. I never really look at the compass, but the auto dim is really practical.

Don't bother with the fabric bra if you can swing a clear bra. Of course they are exponentially more expensive. I have it and it works great. I've found Subie paint to be painfully soft and easy to chip.

I work for a car seat company and tested some car seats in my OBS. You'll have no issues installing using the LATCH system, but you may run into a little front leg room problem when you have the infant seat installed. You'll need to move the front seat forward to accommodate it. As for the booster you should be fine.

You could always just come to NJ and buy my OBS! It's for sale since I'm upgrading to a Legacy 3.6R
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:43 PM   #666
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I agree with everything that MM said. The console extension is great.

As for the sport grille, it's a matter of looks. I had it installed by the dealer when I bought the car and it really sets my OBS apart from the ones with the stock grille.

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Here's my take on some of your topics.

The center console extension has nothing to do with more storage. It just pushes the armrest forward and up so you can actually use it vs. the stock position. I have it and it's worth getting.

I like the auto dim mirror. If you don't plan on getting tint, it is a good purchase as I have it. I never really look at the compass, but the auto dim is really practical.

Don't bother with the fabric bra if you can swing a clear bra. Of course they are exponentially more expensive. I have it and it works great. I've found Subie paint to be painfully soft and easy to chip.

I work for a car seat company and tested some car seats in my OBS. You'll have no issues installing using the LATCH system, but you may run into a little front leg room problem when you have the infant seat installed. You'll need to move the front seat forward to accommodate it. As for the booster you should be fine.

You could always just come to NJ and buy my OBS! It's for sale since I'm upgrading to a Legacy 3.6R
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The sport grill is a must. Looks really great.

Armrest didn't help me since I am super short.

Auto dim/compass no big deal since I use a broadway mirror anyway.

I don't like bras that may scratch the hood paint.

Rear cup holders was a must for the family trips to mcdonalds drive thru.

Baby chair was the only thing I hate and would have considered the forrester. The strap eats up a lot of trunk space since it attaches way back in the trunk. And no issue for me on my seat cuz again I am short so I have the front seat all the way forward.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:45 PM   #668
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The sport grill is a must. Looks really great.

Armrest didn't help me since I am super short.

Auto dim/compass no big deal since I use a broadway mirror anyway.

I don't like bras that may scratch the hood paint.

Rear cup holders was a must for the family trips to mcdonalds drive thru.

Baby chair was the only thing I hate and would have considered the forrester. The strap eats up a lot of trunk space since it attaches way back in the trunk. And no issue for me on my seat cuz again I am short so I have the front seat all the way forward.
Thanks for the responses everybody. Independently, my best friend and my wife both suggested that the forrester might be more in-line with what we want in terms of back seat child "storage". I was really hoping not to have two "big cars" in the family. The smallness is part of what appealed to me. Coming from a 1L 99HP '00 accent, this thing seemed like a real beast of an upgrade and not too much bigger... Besides, I won't be able to get all the fancy schmancy stuff if I go with the forrester... unless she agrees to go up in price

I don't know -- I might have more convincing to do once I get home from the dealer this evening if both the child/toddler seat (he's not quite at booster height yet) and the baby/infant seat (rear facing lock-in style) don't fit. I don't quite remember, but I believe we moved my oldest from the baby carrier seat to the infant/toddler seat at about 9 months to a year. Considering I plan on having the car much longer than that, I need to make the case that this is the way to go. We'll see.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:15 AM   #669
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I would definitely go for the armrest and autodim mirror. I find myself searching for something to rest my arm on on long drives, and end up holding the e-brake handle. The armrest is a nice thing to have and i'm thinking of getting it myself.

And i never noticed how big a difference the mirror makes, since both my parents' cars have autodim mirrors. I often find myself blinded by cars with HIDs or Xenons, but i guess it's not THAT bad. I do use the compass religiously, but i just bought a $2 dashboard compass from Walmart.

As for the grill, i like the OEM sport grill and the idea of it being color-matched, but somehow, i can't justify the price tag on it. I just ordered a generic sport grill off of Ebay for $100. It's unpainted black plastic, but so is the stock grill.

I couldn't really tell you how much room is in the back of the OBS; I've only ever sat in the driver's seat of mine. It looks pretty spacious with my seating position though. Personally, i would try to convince your wife to go with the OBS over the Forester. You've already got the Tuscon for space. The OBS is practical enough to be a family car, but still small and light enough to be a fun toy for you.
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I would definitely go for the armrest and autodim mirror. I find myself searching for something to rest my arm on on long drives, and end up holding the e-brake handle. The armrest is a nice thing to have and i'm thinking of getting it myself.

And i never noticed how big a difference the mirror makes, since both my parents' cars have autodim mirrors. I often find myself blinded by cars with HIDs or Xenons, but i guess it's not THAT bad. I do use the compass religiously, but i just bought a $2 dashboard compass from Walmart.

As for the grill, i like the OEM sport grill and the idea of it being color-matched, but somehow, i can't justify the price tag on it. I just ordered a generic sport grill off of Ebay for $100. It's unpainted black plastic, but so is the stock grill.

I couldn't really tell you how much room is in the back of the OBS; I've only ever sat in the driver's seat of mine. It looks pretty spacious with my seating position though. Personally, i would try to convince your wife to go with the OBS over the Forester. You've already got the Tuscon for space. The OBS is practical enough to be a family car, but still small and light enough to be a fun toy for you.
Thanks again guys. I pulled the trigger this evening after work. I brought the Tuscon w/ me and placed the baby carrier in the back passenger side and had my 6'4" friend squeeze in front. It wasn't what I would call comfortable, but it worked and he's the tallest person I know... for the most part, my wife would be sitting up there and she's not 6'4". The toddler seat (again, not a booster) fit well behind the driver seat. No issues it seems.

As for the accessories... I got them to "include" the arm rest extension. I had talked about the short throw extension earlier during the test drive, but totally neglected to mention it during the negotiations. My friend brought up a good point, in private, that doing it myself might have negative implications re the warranty. I figure I'll call in the morning about that... or not.
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The short-throw is well worth it IF you can get the dealer to give you a break on the price or the installation. Otherwise I would get an after market short shifter, and front and rear shifter bushings. Actually, get the bushing regardless of whether you get the SPT shifter or not. THey make a huge difference in tightening up the feel of the transmission.

RE your warranty: Aftermaket parts cannot hurt your warranty and they certainly cannot "void" your warranty. The dealer has to prove that your part caused the problem. So, at best, they can provide a possible way for your dealer to refuse a claim fro a related part.

So if you install a short shifter, and you later experience tranny problems, then yes, youtr dealer MAY claim there is a connection between the two. But your short shifter isn't going to cause problems with coverage of, for example, your suspension parts.

That said, the 5MT tranny from Subaru hasn't changed substatially in a decade or more, and it has a long history of people using short shifter kits with no problems. The key to aftermarket parts not causing problems is to get research. Buy fron reputible companies and manufacturers and make sure that the parts are installed correctly.

You can pick up an OEM autodim/compass mirror on eBay for ~$100. Easy install. I don
t have one because it wasn't a "must have" for me, and there were other "nice to haves" that ranked higher on my list when I bought the car.

I liked preferred the sport grill to the chrome stock one, so I went with it. Personal choice.

I, currently have a Graco Snugride 32 in the center position in the back. There is plenty of room in the middle, but I'm 6'3 and my wife is 5"11, so once we have two kids and the seats have to move behind us on either side...we might have to move to a bigger car.
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The short-throw is well worth it IF you can get the dealer to give you a break on the price or the installation. Otherwise I would get an after market short shifter, and front and rear shifter bushings. Actually, get the bushing regardless of whether you get the SPT shifter or not. THey make a huge difference in tightening up the feel of the transmission.

RE your warranty: Aftermaket parts cannot hurt your warranty and they certainly cannot "void" your warranty. The dealer has to prove that your part caused the problem. So, at best, they can provide a possible way for your dealer to refuse a claim fro a related part.

So if you install a short shifter, and you later experience tranny problems, then yes, youtr dealer MAY claim there is a connection between the two. But your short shifter isn't going to cause problems with coverage of, for example, your suspension parts.

That said, the 5MT tranny from Subaru hasn't changed substatially in a decade or more, and it has a long history of people using short shifter kits with no problems. The key to aftermarket parts not causing problems is to get research. Buy fron reputible companies and manufacturers and make sure that the parts are installed correctly.

You can pick up an OEM autodim/compass mirror on eBay for ~$100. Easy install. I don
t have one because it wasn't a "must have" for me, and there were other "nice to haves" that ranked higher on my list when I bought the car.

I liked preferred the sport grill to the chrome stock one, so I went with it. Personal choice.

I, currently have a Graco Snugride 32 in the center position in the back. There is plenty of room in the middle, but I'm 6'3 and my wife is 5"11, so once we have two kids and the seats have to move behind us on either side...we might have to move to a bigger car.
Thanks for the insight. I will wait on the short shifter upgrade in that case.

BTW, I've got pics from my cell phone of the fit. As I mentioned above, the rear passenger side has the seat back to account for a taller than average passenger (my best friend), though normally my wife would be the only one to ride there. The rear driver side is with the seat in the general position I expect to have it. This was done on the 2.5i model, as they didn't have the OSB in a manual.




It might be hard to tell from the above, but the seat is touching the bonnett/cover part of the child carrier. I'm not sure if that's a big deal or not. Will have to look into it. But as I said, that seat isn't generally going to be that far up.
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Thanks for the insight. I will wait on the short shifter upgrade in that case.

BTW, I've got pics from my cell phone of the fit. As I mentioned above, the rear passenger side has the seat back to account for a taller than average passenger (my best friend), though normally my wife would be the only one to ride there. The rear driver side is with the seat in the general position I expect to have it. This was done on the 2.5i model, as they didn't have the OSB in a manual.




It might be hard to tell from the above, but the seat is touching the bonnett/cover part of the child carrier. I'm not sure if that's a big deal or not. Will have to look into it. But as I said, that seat isn't generally going to be that far up.
I recognize that Convertible. It's an older Eddie Bauer.
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I recognize that Convertible. It's an older Eddie Bauer.
Close. I got it from either Costco or BJ's. It's the generic badged version, but essentially the same.

edit: my mistake. I still didn't look at it, but my wife informed me that it was, in fact, the eddie bauer convertible. Gotta love that attention to detail

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Thanks for the insight. I will wait on the short shifter upgrade in that case.
Cool, and I will not post in haste, or at least attempt to proof-read my post next time. I do highly recommend a short shifter and the new shift bushings though. If you've spent any time with a Honda, VW, etc. manual tranny, you're going to want something tighter.
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