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Old 09-20-2010, 07:56 PM   #26
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I have an 09 2.5i with an 09 wrx exhaust, K&N drop-in filter, and a Kartboy SS. I don't drive hard, but I drive alot and I haven't really been happy with this transmission. I've never driven a car that has a clutch with a different engaging point EVERY time u shift. The stock shifter's throws were madd long, so I got the Kartboy SS which feels better. I'm going to grab a stronger clutch and bushing and see what that does. Car has 23,000 miles.
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:58 PM   #27
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I'm going to grab a stronger clutch and bushing and see what that does.
Will do nothing .
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:47 AM   #28
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1992 Legacy / 275k / stock/ great
1998 RS / 175k / stock / great until I sold it, and they blew it
1999 RS / 175k / stock / still using it
2003 WRX / 35k / stock / great when I sold it
2006 WRX / 45k / stock / great, and I still DD it

The only transmission I have ever owned that was strong enough to launch it the 6spd.

Please note that all the cars I have owned have won an autoX, rallyX, or both many times.

I have been around for at least one Hoppe tranny blowing.

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Old 09-21-2010, 10:34 AM   #29
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Side note - getting stage 3 or 4 clutch put in because if I can't get a little wheel slip from a 3,200lb car with 300whp then something must be wrong.
You won't get any wheelspin out of a 320 ft-lbs, turbocharged, AWD car unless your tires are complete garbage. Nothing is wrong. If you want wheelspin you should have gone with a 2wd car.

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I have an 09 2.5i with an 09 wrx exhaust, K&N drop-in filter, and a Kartboy SS. I don't drive hard, but I drive alot and I haven't really been happy with this transmission. I've never driven a car that has a clutch with a different engaging point EVERY time u shift. The stock shifter's throws were madd long, so I got the Kartboy SS which feels better. I'm going to grab a stronger clutch and bushing and see what that does. Car has 23,000 miles.
I don't know what you're trying to fix here, but i don't think changing out the clutch or bushings is going to fix the problem as i understand it. I would say bleed the clutch and go from there. It makes no sense that if your clutch engages at a different point every time, but still holds fine, to replace it with a stronger clutch. It's just wasteful.


And just to contribute:
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30K at stage 2
3k at 370whp/320wtq
I'd say about 1200 of those are track miles.

Tranny and diff fluids swapped after EVERY track day. I also have the cusco solid motor/ tranny mounts, which should help keep things aligned better, but transfers more shock to the gearbox/ motor.

Still original clutch, holding fine, and tranny is going strong.

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Old 09-22-2010, 11:57 AM   #30
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320whp with 5.5G launches and i am pretty rough on the gears at the track. No issues yet. I now have everything to swap to e85 really soon. Ill keep you guys posted.

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Old 09-30-2010, 01:23 AM   #31
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Stock 2010, 3500kms (2200miles) BLOWN 1st gear. Currently in warranty dispute, waiting to hear what they say.

Full story is here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6#post32006416
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:28 AM   #32
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Stock 2010, 3500kms (2200miles) BLOWN 1st gear. Currently in warranty dispute, waiting to hear what they say.

Full story is here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6#post32006416
That's a damn shame. I hope things work out for you and I agree, the dealership should foot the bill if they did unauthorized warranty work before SOC rang in. Furthermore, you'd be amazed at the morons that test drive brand new cars at the dealership. The dealer I bought mine from is a Acura/BMW/Porsche/Corvette(yes only vettes, no other GM cars)/Subaru dealership and you just seeing bouncing cars rolling down the service road from idiots who can't drive a manual (or maybe *never* drove a manual).
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:23 PM   #33
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Well, I just hope the second one holds up, finally got the car back.
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:42 PM   #34
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Note: 1999 RS 5MT is having issues.
Reason: Previous user short shifter and lightened fly wheel.
Note: Let's see how long it lasts, and going back to stock.

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Old 09-30-2010, 04:09 PM   #35
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I had a 2008 WRX that I leased. I put 24k mi on it with Cobb stage II. I took it to several track days, shifted it regularly at 6000+rpm into 2nd and 3rd gear and never had a single issue with it.

90% of the broken 5spd gearboxes around here are driver based. I broke the gearbox in my 2000 2.5RS with a blistering 200chp in the car. I repeat, I broke the gearbox. The gearbox didn't just break.
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:52 AM   #36
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You won't get any wheelspin out of a 320 ft-lbs, turbocharged, AWD car unless your tires are complete garbage. Nothing is wrong. If you want wheelspin you should have gone with a 2wd car.

Not looking for brakestands or tokyo drift, just saying that the tires should give a little before the RPMs go sailing because the clutch is slipping.

Anyways, brought the car in to have my clutchmasters stage 2 checked out and it turns out it was glazed, after 1800 miles. And in another fun turn of events it was a SPEC clutch they sent, not a clutchmasters. Vendor is taking it back for full refund.
I went back to stock clutch and flywheel and I am not looking back. Grab is fine, and no more grinding on deceleration in every gear (just 2nd gear the way this 5mt always seems to).

Just remembered this thread is about transmissions.
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Old 10-02-2010, 03:05 PM   #37
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2010 wrx had to replace throwout, clutch, and flywheel at 9k.. had a bit of a chirp and came to find that the entire casing was covered in fibers... fixed under warranty... 11.8k and stage 2 now... kinda hear that chirp again.
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Old 10-02-2010, 03:05 PM   #38
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also, had a buddy who had to replace his clutch at 5k... same story. wtf?
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Old 10-02-2010, 07:16 PM   #39
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also, had a buddy who had to replace his clutch at 5k... same story. wtf?
I don't know how you guys are doing this. I love slipping my clutch (to avoid destroying my transmission) and I have never burned up a clutch. I think somebody already said this, but a lot of times this might ...er...be driver error?

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Old 10-02-2010, 07:28 PM   #40
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2009 WRX @35000 Miles. Stage1 from 100 miles till 29000miles. Stage2 from 29000 miles on. I had an issue at 26000 miles with my 3rd gear selector fork. Dealer concluded it to be bent. Dealer replaced it for free and during the process I got to see the internals of the tranny. Syncros and gears looked pristine.

I currently have a large TMIC on a stage2 tune and the car feels like it puts down a fair amount of power. I try my best not to get on the throttle until fully engaged in gear. I never mash thru gears. Especially shifting from 1st to 2nd under full acceleration, I'll take my time with the engagement. Other tranny modification currently on the car: Perrin Shifter Bushing, Perrin Adjustable Short Shifter (set in the shortest possible throw setting), Group N Transmission Mount, Whiteline Positive Shift Kit Crossmember Bushings, Torque Solutions Pitch Stop Mount.

I'm well aware of the risk braking the transmission so I know my limits. I dont have some crazy unreasonable expectations form the stock 5mt. When I purchased the car, I knew damn for sure that It aint no STI 6MT.

So far no complaints what so ever. Another thing to note is, at 30000 miles, I checked my tranny oil level, and it was low by a tad bit. I topped it off with Penzoil Syncromesh. Immediately after adding the syncromesh I was able to feel a definite difference. I can feel the syncros lining up the next gear quicker by a good amount. It has made shifting during aggressive driving feel a bit safer. Most definitely feels a lot less notchy. I honestly had no idea that the Syncromesh would make that big of a difference. Was in quite a shock when I took the first ride after adding it.

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Old 10-02-2010, 08:05 PM   #41
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I don't know how you guys are doing this. I love slipping my clutch (to avoid destroying my transmission) and I have never burned up a clutch. I think somebody already said this, but a lot of times this might ...er...be driver error?
could be... but i couldn't tell you what i'm doing wrong.. maybe the granny shifting? seems easier on the car than slamming it around... but i've been wrong before.
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Old 10-05-2010, 01:50 PM   #42
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20g td05
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Stock clutch and flywheel
Car made 350whp and 370wtq

Blew tranny at 93k, I used to beat on the tranny so I had to expect it. It's built now with ppg gears so it's good.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:03 PM   #43
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08 wrx 32,000:Vf-48, walbro, intake, dp and full exhaust, perrin crank pulley, fmic. Car made 292whp/320 tq.
I drive the s*** out of it. launch at 5000 rpms. The stock clutch just took a **** and i just spun a rod bearing. lol. but the trans is doing good.lol
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Old 10-05-2010, 05:49 PM   #44
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so what did they change, i mean in comparison to a V4 JDM STi tranny vs this new LGT vs 02-05 WRX

what has really been changed that is "increasing the life" of them.

04 WRX's saw RA width gears, yet people were still blowing them apart.
I believe the V4 JDM STi tranny has shot peened and cryo'ed gears in it. That and the 4.44 Final Drive helps.

But whats different in the LGT/"NEW" WRX tranny
I believe the LGT gear set has a wider engagement profile, not sure about weather they are treated differently (cryo or shot peened). I am pretty sure they are not, just a bit wider.

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2010 wrx had to replace throwout, clutch, and flywheel at 9k.. had a bit of a chirp and came to find that the entire casing was covered in fibers... fixed under warranty... 11.8k and stage 2 now... kinda hear that chirp again.
High pitched, constant regardless of RPM, goes away when you depress the clutch? If so, from my research (because that is the description of the noise I get) it is the cluch fork ratteling against somthing and is due to the soft firewall flexing and warping over time. Taking mine in in a couple of weeks to check it out.

Transmission is still humming along just fine (32k), sounds like all of them are (with the exception of the guy with blown first, sucks man, sounds like it could have been a defect (I hope) and hopefully they will take care of you).

So, knock on wood but it sounds like they are holding up under power so far...
So far...
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:01 PM   #45
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I believe the LGT gear set has a wider engagement profile, not sure about weather they are treated differently (cryo or shot peened). I am pretty sure they are not, just a bit wider.



High pitched, constant regardless of RPM, goes away when you depress the clutch? If so, from my research (because that is the description of the noise I get) it is the cluch fork ratteling against somthing and is due to the soft firewall flexing and warping over time. Taking mine in in a couple of weeks to check it out.

Transmission is still humming along just fine (32k), sounds like all of them are (with the exception of the guy with blown first, sucks man, sounds like it could have been a defect (I hope) and hopefully they will take care of you).

So, knock on wood but it sounds like they are holding up under power so far...
So far...
The stock LGT transmission shifts pretty good. Not as good as my rex with a short shifter and bushings...but good for a stock shifter. Definitely not as notchy as the rex. I can't bring my self to spring for the short shifter for my wifes LGT though.
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Just though I would pop this back up there to see if anything new crops up.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:07 AM   #47
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2009 WRX w/14,000 miles. Shifts well, with the exception of an occasional unpleasant rubbing feeling when going into 3rd, like the side of the shifter is hitting something. Having that checked out by dealer soon, will replace oil w/Extra S at the same time.

Edit to say that I am fully stock, with the factory short shifter.

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Old 11-04-2010, 10:09 AM   #48
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2009 WRX w/14,000 miles. Shifts well, with the exception of an occasional unpleasant rubbing feeling when going into 3rd, like the side of the shifter is hitting something. Having that checked out by dealer soon, will replace oil w/Extra S at the same time.

Edit to say that I am fully stock, with the factory short shifter.
That's normal and happens on all generations of Subaru 5MTs. And when I say 'normal' I mean it just happens on most of them...not that it 'should' happen. Unfortunately, many people have had the dealerships check it out through the years, but no resolutions other than put up with it. If you synchronize your shift properly or egg shell it, it rarely, if ever will occur.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:35 PM   #49
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That's normal and happens on all generations of Subaru 5MTs. And when I say 'normal' I mean it just happens on most of them...not that it 'should' happen. Unfortunately, many people have had the dealerships check it out through the years, but no resolutions other than put up with it. If you synchronize your shift properly or egg shell it, it rarely, if ever will occur.
Agreed, I don't even have that problem anymore. I had it a lot when I shifted through the gears too fast without reving it up.

I just noticed the post at the top saying that he (Imprezzedwitsubies) has a different engament point on the clutch every time he shifts. That is a new one...I've never had that problem on any car...driver error?
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:43 PM   #50
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Just though I would pop this back up there to see if anything new crops up.
This^^ again, more high whp 09+ keep popping up, just seeing if we are getting any failure problems. 35k miles on mine, no problems.
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