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Old 11-09-2010, 07:21 PM   #51
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Rally Innovations have excellent light bars for the pre-'06 body styles btw.
I fixed it for you Their '06/'07 light bar is junk.

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Old 11-09-2010, 07:27 PM   #52
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The RI skid guard protects the front bumper cover and reaches back to about where the radiator is. Coupled with a full skid plate, you have full protection of the front end.

What are your issues with the 06-07 light bar? Mine has been perfect and the design is basically the same as the 04-05.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:32 PM   #53
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The RI skid guard protects the front bumper cover and reaches back to about where the radiator is. Coupled with a full skid plate, you have full protection of the front end.

What are your issues with the 06-07 light bar? Mine has been perfect and the design is basically the same as the 04-05.
The '04-'05 was one piece that bolted on. For '06-'07, they switched to an adapter bracket that was only held on by two bolts. It bounces up and down a lot, and on mine, the dumb rubber posts that are supposed to sit on the license plate are about an inch away. It's just an overall bad design, and some of the better shops around here consider that thing a joke.

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Old 11-09-2010, 07:44 PM   #54
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The 04-07 light bar shares the same mounting design except for a slight difference in the hardware. Have you tried adjusting the bump stops to ensure they rest on the bumper? It sounds like there's something wrong with your setup.

Also, when did you order your bar? Did you try contacting RI with your concerns?
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:05 PM   #55
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The 04-07 light bar shares the same mounting design except for a slight difference in the hardware. Have you tried adjusting the bump stops to ensure they rest on the bumper? It sounds like there's something wrong with your setup.

Also, when did you order your bar? Did you try contacting RI with your concerns?
The bumpers are out of adjustability. I looked at the installation instructions for both years, and they were pretty different. A friend of mine had one on his '05 that was solid. Mine was not.

I bought it in early '06. I never contacted them because I didn't put it on for a few weeks (maybe even months).

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Old 11-09-2010, 08:11 PM   #56
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Well it sounds like there's an issue with yours, as the bar should sit right on the bumper with the rubber bump stops. It's as stable as the 04-05. If you still have the bar and it still has the same issues, you should contact them and see what they say.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:12 PM   #57
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^^sounds like u should be calling RI instead of complaining about the parts you bought to other people. could just be a simple fix.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:07 PM   #58
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Think I'm going to go with the Primitive 3/16 stuff myself (sump/diff guard). The cars going to be mainly on tarmac to rough tarmac and occasionally dirt. I've encountered plenty of rocks though more then capable of tearing nice holes in oil pans, especially if hit with any kind of force simply just strewn across even the nicely paved tarmac back roads here. I've been fortunate enough to avoid this stuff myself for the most part but long oil trail stains on many of the roads are left behind by lots of others who haven't been as fortunate. And if your out in the middle of nowhere with no help around an empty oil pan is not a good thing.

Other stuff I would be interested in if someone started making it would be a prop shaft guard of some sort, and maybe some less expensive floor/fender well protection as the carbon kevlar stuff is sort of out of the budget haha. I may just try and see why I can come up with in the line of some floorboard protection in a less exotic material.

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Old 11-09-2010, 09:39 PM   #59
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^^sounds like u should be calling RI instead of complaining about the parts you bought to other people. could just be a simple fix.
^Yup...

I got mine in February and it fits snug. It started to rust a little on the underside, but after all, I am in the rust belt. I cleaned it up and put some rust bullet on it.

Seriously though, contact RI and I bet they'll help you out. You might have to send a few pic's to help them diagnose the issue.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:00 PM   #60
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Well it sounds like there's an issue with yours, as the bar should sit right on the bumper with the rubber bump stops. It's as stable as the 04-05. If you still have the bar and it still has the same issues, you should contact them and see what they say.
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^^sounds like u should be calling RI instead of complaining about the parts you bought to other people. could just be a simple fix.
Unless they changed the entire way it mounts, I don't see how that will help. Keep in mind that this was about 4 years ago.

I was trying to post to contribute to the NABISCO community, but if the overwhelming response is that I'm not contributing (and since this is a thread on skid plates, I agree), I'll just get out of this thread. Sound good?

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Old 12-09-2010, 03:53 PM   #61
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Probably going to order one this week before the snow hits and the roads are covered with sand and salt.
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Old 12-10-2010, 01:20 PM   #62
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FYI, Primitive Racing got back to me... Pretty sure I'll just go with a spacer and no holes on the plate. Better aerodynamics and protection that way. I'm already under the car with a wratchet to change the oil so 4 bolts to remove the plate shouldn't be an issue.

Gonna wait for Wicked Innovations and RallyArmor to get back to me before I make a decision.

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We adapt either the 1/8" or 3/16" by using the HEADER SPACERS option to fit with (help clear) the Fumoto drain valve. We can also cut a clearance hole in the plate for the valve, but that may let valve show below the plate (depending upon your engine mounts etc) and how you orient the valve mounting.

1/8" ($159, next batch arrives between Christmas and New Year's)
3/16" $189 and in stock
add $20 for oil drain (fumoto) and filter holes, and/or $18 for the header spacer option.

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Old 12-10-2010, 02:02 PM   #63
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does anyone know how or if skidplates affect the air flow from the tmic? some of them look like they go far enough back to raise the pressure under the tmic impeding airflow
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:49 PM   #64
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does anyone know how or if skidplates affect the air flow from the tmic? some of them look like they go far enough back to raise the pressure under the tmic impeding airflow
I have had the primitive plate pictured above (without the stinger tail) on for a couple of years through the heat of teh summer and frigid cold without any problems.



... it came with the sticker.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:01 PM   #65
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I've always though a good idea for a skid plate would be to have hole for access to the oil drain and filter covered by small plates bolted on that could just be rotated out of the way for an oil change, then rotated back and bolted in place when done. Anyone know if that exists?
Also anyone have any fitment issues with skidplates and aftermarket headers?
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:10 PM   #66
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Yeah I am pretty sure those are available but I think it weakens the overall strength of the plate. It's only 5 13mm bolts to take it off. I have a Fumoto valve that doesn't get in the way either.
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:28 PM   #67
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i guess u cant use the H brace with it
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:51 AM   #68
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I've read just about every post I can find regarding skid-plates on NASIOC and DirtyImpreza. I'm split between the RalliTEK because of the side spash plates and the Primative because of value and the available rear differential skid-plate.

What are peoples experience with the RalliTEK on the 2008+ Impreza?
Does it seem to collect more or less road grim on top of the plate?
Has anyone, or will Paul, weld a lip onto the sides of the Primitive plate to help keep debris kicked up from the tires out of the engine bay? (no I haven't sent him an email yet)

The last time I went down an unmaintained dirt road in my OBS the sound of the brush hitting the undercarriage of my car was unnerving.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:37 PM   #69
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I've read just about every post I can find regarding skid-plates on NASIOC and DirtyImpreza. I'm split between the RalliTEK because of the side spash plates and the Primative because of value and the available rear differential skid-plate.

What are peoples experience with the RalliTEK on the 2008+ Impreza?
Does it seem to collect more or less road grim on top of the plate?
Has anyone, or will Paul, weld a lip onto the sides of the Primitive plate to help keep debris kicked up from the tires out of the engine bay? (no I haven't sent him an email yet)

The last time I went down an unmaintained dirt road in my OBS the sound of the brush hitting the undercarriage of my car was unnerving.
I don't have any problems with debris being kicked up into the engine bay with my Primitive plate. Now if I went through some deep puddles (off road) I might but I imagine that would happen with any plate or cover.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:36 AM   #70
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I've read just about every post I can find regarding skid-plates on NASIOC and DirtyImpreza. I'm split between the RalliTEK because of the side spash plates and the Primative because of value and the available rear differential skid-plate.

What are peoples experience with the RalliTEK on the 2008+ Impreza?
Does it seem to collect more or less road grim on top of the plate?
Has anyone, or will Paul, weld a lip onto the sides of the Primitive plate to help keep debris kicked up from the tires out of the engine bay? (no I haven't sent him an email yet)

The last time I went down an unmaintained dirt road in my OBS the sound of the brush hitting the undercarriage of my car was unnerving.
I had a Rallitek plate on my 05 LGT (which I believe is the exact same plate as the 08 Impreza) and the fitment was absolutely horrible. The holes weren't lined up and the rear brackets where it bolted to the crossmember was an absolutely stupid design. I even emailed them and told them it was the worst overall aftermarket part I have ever purchased. Once I was able to get the stupid thing on, it did a good job of protecting things down there. Changing my oil was a real pain in the ass because it had to come off every time and I had to deal with the same headache of putting it back on.

I also had the Primitive plate on my 02 WRX and it was great. WAY thicker than the Rallitek plate, MUCH better fitment/design, and it kept crap out of the engine bay just as good as the Rallitek plate with the side panels. Even though they were different applications, I was much happier with Primitive's product. I'd definitely recommend the Primitive plate over the Rallitek crap.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:03 PM   #71
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+1 for Paul at Primitive. He's a serious rally driver who knows how to make competition grade hardware.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:29 PM   #72
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Yeah, it was obvious that the Rallitek plate is just made to look like a skid plate, and the Primitive one could actually take some abuse.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:15 AM   #73
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not mine but i good write up on how to make a good cheap skidplate
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...diy+skid+plate
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:26 AM   #74
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Anybody running one of these skid plates with an aftermarket subframe? Just wondering if they will still fit or if it would be better to just make one from scratch.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:26 PM   #75
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i want one of these for my 97Impreza...
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