Used Hoosier Grand Am Series race tires in AutoX?

relliMmoT · 11-12-2010, 12:47 PM

I can currently get a very good deal on some used Koni Tire Challenge tires (which are Hoosier tires). Im thinking about getting as many as 8 of them.

If you click https://www.hoosiertire.com/ecommerc...sp?SubCatID=17 they are the second tire down on the list.

Seller does not know how many heat cycles they have had, but knows they were used for practice and qualifying in the ST class. He says he gets about an hour out of each of them when he uses them at the track.

From what I can gather in speculation on forums, they are harder than Hoosiers A6 (AutoX) and R6 (Road Race) compound so they can last longer and the seller specified they are "intermediate compound"...
As far as I can find for consensus they wouldnt heat up fast enough for AutoX (one user said he needs 3 laps at the track before he can push them to the limit). I am in Louisiana and my chapter uses a black parking lot so it does gets HOT in the summer, street tires are ALWAYS overheated here. We take 3 laps per heat, each lap about 10-20minutes apart. IDK if this would be enough heat for those Hoosier tires?

SO, and heres my scenario- im budget-minded ("cheap") so cant afford a new set of R-comps or slicks, and im not really trying to be competitive in any level above my chapter-
So even though the Hoosier's may not heat up fast enough to be FULLY optimal would they still be faster than...
Falken Azenis RT-615K? I am thinking about getting a barely used set of those (found a good deal).
Nitto NT-01? (This season I ran those in the front and street tires in the rear

, great tires but too expensive to buy again)

Essentially im wanting to know if these slicks that may be operating under their optimal heat range would be as fast as R-Compound tires...

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REX8 · 11-12-2010, 12:58 PM

I doubt it. More importatntly, are they even legal?

relliMmoT · 11-12-2010, 01:58 PM

In prepared and modified classes. Like I said, I dont care about being competitive in a class

Waterfall Insurance · 11-12-2010, 02:03 PM

considering it's not even Koni Challenge anymore and they now use Conti's they have probably been sitting around for a while as well

REX8 · 11-12-2010, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by relliMmoT

Like I said, I dont care about being competitive in a class

Then I'd get something like the 615ks, or other used rubber that will last you longer.

speedyHAM · 11-12-2010, 07:24 PM

After slicks are heat cycled a few time and have sat for a little while they are worthless. If you are getting them for $1 they would be worth paying to mount and run down to the cords, but they will not be competitive.

Get the street tires.

WastingTime · 11-12-2010, 09:13 PM

depending on the tires you are running try giving a call to john berget. 262-740-0180 they have used r-comps for cheap.

The site is outdated but they will respond to email/phone

11-12-2010, 12:47 PM	#1
relliMmoT Scooby Specialist Member#: 206931 Join Date: Mar 2009 Chapter/Region: South East Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Vehicle: 2004 WRX Wagon 6MT JBP 318WHP//300WTQ	Used Hoosier Grand Am Series race tires in AutoX? I can currently get a very good deal on some used Koni Tire Challenge tires (which are Hoosier tires). Im thinking about getting as many as 8 of them. If you click https://www.hoosiertire.com/ecommerc...sp?SubCatID=17 they are the second tire down on the list. Seller does not know how many heat cycles they have had, but knows they were used for practice and qualifying in the ST class. He says he gets about an hour out of each of them when he uses them at the track. From what I can gather in speculation on forums, they are harder than Hoosiers A6 (AutoX) and R6 (Road Race) compound so they can last longer and the seller specified they are "intermediate compound"... As far as I can find for consensus they wouldnt heat up fast enough for AutoX (one user said he needs 3 laps at the track before he can push them to the limit). I am in Louisiana and my chapter uses a black parking lot so it does gets HOT in the summer, street tires are ALWAYS overheated here. We take 3 laps per heat, each lap about 10-20minutes apart. IDK if this would be enough heat for those Hoosier tires? SO, and heres my scenario- im budget-minded ("cheap") so cant afford a new set of R-comps or slicks, and im not really trying to be competitive in any level above my chapter- So even though the Hoosier's may not heat up fast enough to be FULLY optimal would they still be faster than... Falken Azenis RT-615K? I am thinking about getting a barely used set of those (found a good deal). Nitto NT-01? (This season I ran those in the front and street tires in the rear, great tires but too expensive to buy again) Essentially im wanting to know if these slicks that may be operating under their optimal heat range would be as fast as R-Compound tires... * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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11-12-2010, 12:58 PM	#2
REX8 Scooby Guru Member#: 24038 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Godspeed Cale...	I doubt it. More importatntly, are they even legal?

11-12-2010, 01:58 PM	#3
relliMmoT Scooby Specialist Member#: 206931 Join Date: Mar 2009 Chapter/Region: South East Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Vehicle: 2004 WRX Wagon 6MT JBP 318WHP//300WTQ	In prepared and modified classes. Like I said, I dont care about being competitive in a class

11-12-2010, 02:03 PM	#4
Waterfall Insurance Vendor Member#: 245495 Join Date: Apr 2010 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Federal Way, WA Vehicle: 06 PM me for an insurance quote!	considering it's not even Koni Challenge anymore and they now use Conti's they have probably been sitting around for a while as well

11-12-2010, 07:24 PM	#6
speedyHAM Scooby Specialist Member#: 48377 Join Date: Nov 2003 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: "They eat fish soaked in lye" Vehicle: 1996 Gutted, built XP class Impreza L	After slicks are heat cycled a few time and have sat for a little while they are worthless. If you are getting them for $1 they would be worth paying to mount and run down to the cords, but they will not be competitive. Get the street tires.

11-12-2010, 09:13 PM	#7
WastingTime Scooby Specialist Member#: 181927 Join Date: Jun 2008 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Pittsburgh Vehicle: 99 RS - RBP 10 DSP	depending on the tires you are running try giving a call to john berget. 262-740-0180 they have used r-comps for cheap. The site is outdated but they will respond to email/phone