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Old 10-17-2008, 10:27 AM   #51
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Dam STis...
Ok was wondering what to do and could use some input, thanks...
One other thing, what kind of rotors do you suggest that would be equal in quallity, or better but not at a crazy price?
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:45 PM   #52
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Anyone have issues with hot brakes on 08/09 STIs?
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:52 PM   #53
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Yep having the issue and dealer said they ordered the 07 pads. Don't you like how a car manufacture treats you after you buy the car. Before you buy the sales people will do just about anything to sell you a car, but after it's all about saving money or in some cases making money for a service department.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:24 PM   #54
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FWIW:

I use stock SOA rotors (relatively cheap online) and Ferodo 2500 pads (thanks to 'BIGSKY' for that suggestion!).

The Ferodos are expensive but they perform very well, last a long time, don't squeal, don't eat rotors (like the Hawk HP+ pads I tried a while back), and are easy to modulate.

They do put off some dust, but it is easy enough to wash off and doesn't seem to be corrosive.
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:57 AM   #55
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Anyone have issues with hot brakes on 08/09 STIs?
what type of symptoms would go along with the hot brake issue?
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:27 PM   #56
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Name: David

Make: 08 Impreza 2.5i

Mileage: 24 and some change

Time Out Of Use: few weeks

Problem And Likely Cause: Vibration and noise when braking, but sometimes it is worse than others.

Modifications: not yet, but coming

Submitted For Warranty Work (Yes/No): Yes

Reason Given For Denial: The car is fine, drive it another few thousand miles and see if it goes away.... WTF?

Your Story: Not much to it. I want my car fixed, so in a few thousand miles, I will go back to dealership and they will say something like "your rotors are worn or warped and you have to pay for it"
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:19 PM   #57
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Name: David

Make: 08 Impreza 2.5i

Mileage: 24 and some change

Time Out Of Use: few weeks

Problem And Likely Cause: Vibration and noise when braking, but sometimes it is worse than others.

Modifications: not yet, but coming

Submitted For Warranty Work (Yes/No): Yes

Reason Given For Denial: The car is fine, drive it another few thousand miles and see if it goes away.... WTF?

Your Story: Not much to it. I want my car fixed, so in a few thousand miles, I will go back to dealership and they will say something like "your rotors are worn or warped and you have to pay for it"
Resurfacing the rotors is covered under warranty for 36 years or 36,000 miles...take it to another dealer
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:56 PM   #58
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Name: David

Make: 08 Impreza 2.5i

Mileage: 24 and some change

Time Out Of Use: few weeks

Problem And Likely Cause: Vibration and noise when braking, but sometimes it is worse than others.

Modifications: not yet, but coming

Submitted For Warranty Work (Yes/No): Yes

Reason Given For Denial: The car is fine, drive it another few thousand miles and see if it goes away.... WTF?

Your Story: Not much to it. I want my car fixed, so in a few thousand miles, I will go back to dealership and they will say something like "your rotors are worn or warped and you have to pay for it" 11-13-2009 08:57 AM
Well, against my own thoughts, i drove the car another 1K miles and still have the problem. went by the dealer today to make an appt and the same service guy told me i will have to pay for new brakes and they are not covered under the warranty. he said since the car sat for 2 months (although my wife drove it once a week), that the warranty does not apply.

Now i am supposed to pay for new pads and rotors?????? I DONT THINK SO

What should i do next?????
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:30 PM   #59
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24,000 miles or 24 miles?

Actually the rotors can be resurfaced as many times as needed until the 3 years or 36,000 mile mark is passed. They are covered by warranty, but SOA can authorize replacement for certain circumstances. The brake pads can be replaced only if they are worn below 1.5mm which is covered by the wear item warranty. Tell the service writer to look into his policy and procedure guide and he will find that out. As a precaution, I would call SOA and start a case file with them about it being your service rep appears to be uninformed.

Or do what Kelly said and go to a different dealer.
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:35 PM   #60
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Name: David

Make: 08 Impreza 2.5i

Mileage: 24 and some change

Time Out Of Use: few weeks

Problem And Likely Cause: Vibration and noise when braking, but sometimes it is worse than others.

Modifications: not yet, but coming

Submitted For Warranty Work (Yes/No): Yes

Reason Given For Denial: The car is fine, drive it another few thousand miles and see if it goes away.... WTF?

Your Story: Not much to it. I want my car fixed, so in a few thousand miles, I will go back to dealership and they will say something like "your rotors are worn or warped and you have to pay for it" 11-13-2009 08:57 AM
Well, against my own thoughts, i drove the car another 1K miles and still have the problem. went by the dealer today to make an appt and the same service guy told me i will have to pay for new brakes and they are not covered under the warranty. he said since the car sat for 2 months (although my wife drove it once a week), that the warranty does not apply.

Now i am supposed to pay for new pads and rotors?????? I DONT THINK SO

What should i do next?????
Call SOA.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:50 AM   #61
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I actually have 24000 miles (closer to 25 now). I just find it hard to swallow that my brakes would go bad from the car sitting their. I have had cars sit for 4-6 months and had no probs with them.

How do i get a hold of SOA?
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:34 PM   #62
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I actually have 24000 miles (closer to 25 now). I just find it hard to swallow that my brakes would go bad from the car sitting their. I have had cars sit for 4-6 months and had no probs with them.

How do i get a hold of SOA?
It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that your brake problems are the result of the car sitting for a while. Cars are stored all the time -- sometimes for years -- without any affect on the brakes.

I continue to be amazed at the stupid ***** some service reps come up with.

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Old 04-17-2010, 06:47 PM   #63
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It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that your brake problems are the result of the car sitting for a while. Cars are stored all the time -- sometimes for years -- without any affect on the brakes.

I continue to be amazed at the stupid ***** some service reps come up with.

SOA:
http://www.subaru.com/company/index.html
I just wrote SOA HQ and used the "Service Related" as my subject. I recieved the pop up that a service advisor would get back to me. I hope it is not the local Subaru dealer, as that is where the problem occured.
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:26 PM   #64
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It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that your brake problems are the result of the car sitting for a while. Cars are stored all the time -- sometimes for years -- without any affect on the brakes.

I continue to be amazed at the stupid ***** some service reps come up with.

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http://www.subaru.com/company/index.html
Actually a vehicle that sits outside can develop surface rust on the brake rotors. We call it lot rot. it can make the brakes noisy and can cause some vibration. That is why the Manufacturer recommends that the dealerships drive the cars as part of "proper storage".
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:27 PM   #65
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:03 PM   #66
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Actually a vehicle that sits outside can develop surface rust on the brake rotors. We call it lot rot. it can make the brakes noisy and can cause some vibration. That is why the Manufacturer recommends that the dealerships drive the cars as part of "proper storage".
That's true, but in my experience the surface rust is worn off quickly and the brakes work fine. Some rust on the rotors would not cause the symptoms he describes and for the service rep to claim otherwise is absurd.
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Old 04-19-2010, 07:49 AM   #67
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I agree on that part.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:24 PM   #68
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Go back to the dealer. Bring a yellow highlighter with you. Ask your advisor to pull a "Coverage Inquiry" on your vehicle. Ask to see it. Go to the second coverage listed and highlight it. It will say "Brake pad coverage" It will tell him the date and mileage the warranty on the brake pads expires.

Or, PM me your VIN and I will email you a copy you can bring into them pre-highlighted...LOL
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:28 PM   #69
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That's true, but in my experience the surface rust is worn off quickly and the brakes work fine. Some rust on the rotors would not cause the symptoms he describes and for the service rep to claim otherwise is absurd.
Surface rust from sitting one or two days will generally wear off after a few brake applications. However, if the car isn't driven for some time, that "surface rust" can eat into the rotor to a point where they cannot be machined to specs again. You know, rust never sleeps. It is common to be able to see heavily rusted areas from right under the pads on a car that has been sitting in a wet environment.
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Or, PM me your VIN and I will email you a copy you can bring into them pre-highlighted...LOL
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:11 PM   #71
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Well, I talked to SOA yesterday, got a file # and they are going to contact the service manager during my next appt to get a status of my car. Hopefully this does not get worse. I do my own oil changes, rotations, etc. I know how some places are like "well sir, you did not bring in the car for your regularly schedule maintenance so...BS BS BS".

Thanks for all the help!! You all got me in the right direction.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:51 PM   #72
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That doesn't mean anything. There is not a law that states you have to bring it in for service in order to obtain warranty. Infact, there is an act put in place in 1975 that forbids it.
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That doesn't mean anything. There is not a law that states you have to bring it in for service in order to obtain warranty. Infact, there is an act put in place in 1975 that forbids it.
Yes, but you still have to be able to show your service records to maintain your warranty. The law states you don't have to have it serviced at your dealer. The problem with doing your own work is that your "records" are always suspect. I've seen instances of oil change receipts from independent shops, dated 3 months and 3000 miles apart, with sequential RO numbers on them. How that shop stays in business doing one oil change every three months amazes me!
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Yes, but you still have to be able to show your service records to maintain your warranty. The law states you don't have to have it serviced at your dealer. The problem with doing your own work is that your "records" are always suspect. I've seen instances of oil change receipts from independent shops, dated 3 months and 3000 miles apart, with sequential RO numbers on them. How that shop stays in business doing one oil change every three months amazes me!
I agree, but "I" can not tell a customer of mine that since they do not do their oil changes with me, I will not perform warranty repairs on their brakes. That is what he and I were referring.

I have seen some "fishy" maintenance records myself and some my Rep just laughed at and said no way. When the invoice numbers are in reverse order than the dates of those services, then you know they are fudged
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