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Old 02-12-2011, 10:06 AM   #1
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Default WRX based mid-engine roadster from Factory Five Racing

Factory Five Racing is developing a mid-engine, RWD roadster that will use a WRX donor for it's running gear. The car is expected to be about 1800 pounds and have a removable top. The kit price is targeted to be $9,900, plus a donor WRX. See the link for more info: FFR WRX Roadster

Factory Five Racing is the number one seller of Cobra kits, as well as a few other awesome kits.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:07 AM   #2
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Would be much more interesting if there was actually a rendering.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:22 AM   #3
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Obviously in early development... give it an optional hardtop and count me in!
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:22 AM   #4
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Sounds pretty farking cool to me.
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:14 PM   #5
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It's like a 914 with less rust.

SWEEEEET!
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:24 PM   #6
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This sounds awesome. When is this "Moochfest"? Seems like it is usually right around WBM.

edit: the winter open house was today

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Old 02-12-2011, 02:25 PM   #7
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Would be much more interesting if there was actually a rendering.
There's apparently a napkin sketch in the link:

http://www.factoryfive.com/whatsnew/...bie-racerA.jpg

Looks to be something like the K1 Attack kit car... before K1 decided to only produce turn keys.

Given that Factory Five makes nice kits, I'm looking forward to this.
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:31 PM   #8
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Would be much more interesting if there was actually a rendering.
They're having a competition to design the body:

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The base dimensions, running gear, and chassis/suspensions work has been determined. The body shape of this two-seater, mid-engined roadster is not finalized and we have decided, in conjunction with Grassroots Motorsports Magazine, to sponsor a body design competition open to the public and hosted by Grassroots Motorsports Magazine. Full details on this competition will be released shortly and submissions dates begin March 1st. Full details will be released on our website shortly.
Here's my submission



I wonder what they'll use for a transmission if it's going to be rwd...

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Old 02-12-2011, 03:20 PM   #9
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subscribed because its sounds pretty awesome.

hmmm, if a wrx motor could fit, theoretically an STi motor could fit, no?

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Old 02-12-2011, 03:56 PM   #10
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The original "Single Donor" Cobra was an ingenious idea that allowed Factory Five to grow into the company it is today.

I hope this works out just as well for them. I'll be very interested in seeing how the exterior design evolves.

Depending on how much of the donor WRX is used, and if it's designed for a sedan or wagon, or both, it will theoretically be possible to use any Legacy through '99, any Impreza through '07, or even the Forester thru '08 as the donor car.
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:19 PM   #11
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Will that mean the FFR will be competing against the Smyth kit based off of the Jetta? The Jetta one looks like it could be built mild with high mpg, or with the VR6 engines if I read it right.

Similar ideas for body, engine layout, single donor, kit cost, etc...

Hope both find a niche, would be sweet to see some lightweight fun cars out there.
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:02 PM   #12
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Oh?

I need to get a garage and a wrecked WRX.......
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:13 PM   #13
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Who said that there can't be Subaru RWD coupe under $20k and 2000lbs?
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:36 PM   #14
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Sounds like a good project to me.

My only suggestion... give the engine room enough space for an EG33 flat 6.

With some pistons, cams, and turbos... THAT will be an interesting car.

And frankly, to a certain extent... make the space-frame modular, and let people fit the mid-engine-proportioned body that they want.

I have several ideas, coupes, and roadsters.
DeLorean DMC12 updated to today.
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 Stradale
Porsche 904 Carrera
Faux-rrari 250LM, Dino, or any number of mid-engined bodies, or even the original Dino concept.
Mercedes C111 concept
Marcos Mantis XP
Affordable knock-off of a Porsche Carrera GT, or 918 with boxer power.
Sterling, or newer canopy designs like Maserati Birdcage 75th, or Saab AeroX
Jag XJ13, CX75, XJ220, or XJ15

Or any manner of custom bodies one can imagine for a mid-engined layout.

BTW, Does anybody know if the 2010 Legacy GT cable-shifted 6MT is capable of being converted to lateral-drive only, if parts from a FWD Subaru 5-speed are used?

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Old 02-12-2011, 07:30 PM   #15
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I want the original Lancia Stratos... even if it's in replica form. I look into the company that built the one that they had on Top Gear but it uses a lot of different parts from older Fiats, Lancias, and Alfas which would be a PITA to source in the US. There needs to be a cheaper, easier alternative than that
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:01 PM   #16
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I am going to send this to the head of the dept I am in at school... Trans design at CCS here in the D. Would be cool to have a bunch of design peeps put pen to this.
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:49 PM   #17
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I second the motion for the H6.

6 cyl boxer is yummy.

Oh and btw. Wow. I'm starting my savings account now.
I've been seriously considering a used boxter S. With this coming in at half the weight, it would blow one away.

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Old 02-12-2011, 11:16 PM   #18
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Very very interesting!
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:49 PM   #19
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Considering how nice the kits are that FFR builds, this one will be awesome. I think there will be a lot of flexability for us Subaru guys. I see no reason that you couldn't use almost any turbo drivetrain, although the kit will probably be designed specifically to use the suspension and brake parts from an Impreza. They may also build it to use some of the interior pieces as well.

As for competing with the Smyth car, that car is specifically being build to be a green car. That car requires you to use the frame from the VW. The FFR will use a custom tube frame, like all their other kits.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:52 PM   #20
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If only this was road legal...
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:02 AM   #21
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they're not?
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:08 AM   #22
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Who said that there can't be Subaru RWD coupe under $20k and 2000lbs?
I'm not sure if you're serious, I'm hoping not.
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Old 02-13-2011, 01:00 AM   #23
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If only this was road legal...
If its factory five, expect them TO be road legal.
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Old 02-13-2011, 01:47 AM   #24
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...although the kit will probably be designed specifically to use the suspension and brake parts from an Impreza.
Brakes I don't mind, especially if STI brembos can be used.

But I would very much hope they would step up the suspension.

SLA suspension all the way around would be GREAT, especially if they can use off-the-shelf standard shocks and springs from a different car, such as a Miata or something. They could also use some of the suspension tech from their mid-engined GTM, if they wanted to.

McPherson struts can work in a pinch with packaging concerns, but on a car like this, I doubt the packaging is going to be as constricted, in the front or rear... so not compromising the suspension on a sports car with an uncompromising mid-engined layout, would be preferable.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:03 AM   #25
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Interesting. Will be keeping my eye on this
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