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Old 02-14-2011, 01:32 AM   #76
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:34 PM   #77
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Here's a stock vs. nameless sound comparison clip I saw on youtube:


This pretty much sells the nameless axleback for me. It will be my 2nd mod after accessport.

For those that installed this, how hard was it? I'm pretty noob (installed intake on civics, etc.). Did you use new gaskets?

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Old 02-14-2011, 03:34 PM   #78
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Old 02-14-2011, 03:53 PM   #79
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I'm seriously considering this for my sedan as soon as the tax money hits my account! Looks and sounds great!
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Old 02-14-2011, 03:59 PM   #80
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why are you people paying $300+ for some noise?
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:03 PM   #81
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why pay $1000 for a catback?
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:03 PM   #82
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why are you people paying $300+ for some noise?
1. Looks nicer (flush) than stock
2. mufflers have some weight to them
3. it's not "some noise" it's a deeper/richer tone
4. support a domestic small business?
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:14 PM   #83
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^^^those are really the reasons you came up with. you where reaching for number 4. And yes i know what noise your looking for. so let me get this straight. You have talked yourself into buying this because the weight you will be losing is gonna help you go faster, the look of it is gonna make your car look better, and the sound is gonna be ober sweet. Ok. well its your money.
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:17 PM   #84
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why pay $1000 for a catback?
well you don't have to there are some for less. And if you think your not gonna want a DP, and CB eventually your crazy. So right now you pay $300 for noise and then down the road you will have to buy a real CB to get the power you want.

Im not saying this is a bad product or anything. It looks very well engineered and built im just saying its a total waste of money for the simple fact is all it produces is noise.
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:32 PM   #85
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from what i've read:

2.5" piping does not restrict power goals <400whp, so for power, change out your DP and tune it. Done. You don't need a catback.

Most people want to hear the rumble. A catback basically only does that. So this seems like the best way to get the sound we all want at a reasonable price.
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:38 PM   #86
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^^^^thats the best answer anyone will probably give. well done sir.....and im not being sarcastic. I just wanted someone to try and justify spending this kind of money on noise.

I do think the wrx exhaust is 2.25 and STi is 2.45
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:48 PM   #87
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why are you people paying $300+ for some noise?
Because it's a muffler delete
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:55 PM   #88
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^^^ Get out and go read some more
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:09 PM   #89
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So if I have an unmodded car these won't give me any extra torque and or horsepower?
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:15 PM   #90
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Introduce some 02-07 WRX exhausts and I'm in !
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:21 PM   #91
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^^^those are really the reasons you came up with. you where reaching for number 4. And yes i know what noise your looking for. so let me get this straight. You have talked yourself into buying this because the weight you will be losing is gonna help you go faster, the look of it is gonna make your car look better, and the sound is gonna be ober sweet. Ok. well its your money.
Yeah that's right, it is my money thanks for acknowledging it. I want the richer "noise" as you put it without needing to go muffler-less or going to a muffler shop to get custom piping for way more than $300.

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Old 02-14-2011, 08:47 PM   #92
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why are you people paying $300+ for some noise?
I'm pretty sure the reason why people get catback exhausts is for the noise. Yeah there are performance gains but they are minimal. No one gets a catback based on which has the most performance gains but on which sounds the best. So why do people pay $1000.00 for some noise?

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Here's a stock vs. nameless sound comparison clip I saw on youtube:

YouTube - 2011STi Stock vs Delete

This pretty much sells the nameless axleback for me. It will be my 2nd mod after accessport.

For those that installed this, how hard was it? I'm pretty noob (installed intake on civics, etc.). Did you use new gaskets?

Thanks!
It is not hard at all. All you do is unbolt your stock muffler, pull it off, bolt your new nameless axleback on. You reuse your stock gasket. It is pretty much the easiest mod I've done. No need to jack the car up or anything since it's just the mufflers.
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:47 PM   #93
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btw here is a comparison photo of nameless performance vs stock. nameless actually is much better quality than stock. the welds look much cleaner on the nameless.

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is this going to mess with ur back pressure? since now u have no mufflers.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:23 PM   #95
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So if I have an unmodded car these won't give me any extra torque and or horsepower?
I make these exhausts, haven't gotten my login switched over to NamelessPerformance yet...anyway... we are planning on doing a baseline/modded set of dyno runs for the AxleBack exhaust in the next few weeks. Our local customer just added a son to the family last week and isn't going to be available for a week or two, but as soon as we can get the car to the dyno, we'll have some data on this. Either way, if you look at catback gains, we did a 3" into dual 2.5" catback and it lost low end torque. Markedly. These muffler deletes do not lose that torque and still have gains at the high end.

We will also be doing some flow testing this week to just see how many CFM these flow vs. the factory mufflers which are a complex baffled design, not a straight through perforated one.

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well you don't have to there are some for less. And if you think your not gonna want a DP, and CB eventually your crazy. So right now you pay $300 for noise and then down the road you will have to buy a real CB to get the power you want.
I think you're full of it on this. Our axleback exhaust has within 5% of the cross sectional area of a single 3" straight pipe, and the factory midpipe is a 2.65" straight pipe with a single resonator in which the perf is larger than the main pipe diameter. If you're talking about needing a Catback to realize gains with a larger turbo, we do plan on offering a bolt up midpipe which will give you the additional .35" of extra diameter if you find it necessary.

It is a good product, and I think you'd be surprised what kind of power could be had with these muffler deletes and a downpipe as the only performance improvements in the exhaust system. Even the COBB catback has a reduced 3" long section at the connection of the downpipe and the catback. If you really think additional pipe length makes any difference in behavior of restriction, I think you're mistaken. But we'll see. We plan on comparing this system to the 3" into dual 2.5" catback system we originally developed to finalize all of these conjectures....either way, if we find that the factory midpipe is restrictive, we can certainly make our own including a helmholz resonator or some other improved way of cancelling out drone frequencies with the effectively straight pipe exhaust at that point.

We've got tricks up our sleeve and plan on explaining them all. Have we yet not filled anyone in on who we are or how we do things?

Stay tuned.

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ok so that answers the question of power. does it mess with your back pressure? and the midpipe was the section that i was referring to but it seems you already knew that and possibly have something in the works for that. I just found it unclear as to why you where going from one size to another back down. And as i stated in a previous post that the product looks very nice and well engineered and built. The welds are very nice i just couldn't convince myself to eliminate mufflers to a 3in pipe but still run the stock piping to it.
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:52 PM   #98
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:02 PM   #99
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ok so that answers the question of power. does it mess with your back pressure? and the midpipe was the section that i was referring to but it seems you already knew that and possibly have something in the works for that. I just found it unclear as to why you where going from one size to another back down. And as i stated in a previous post that the product looks very nice and well engineered and built. The welds are very nice i just couldn't convince myself to eliminate mufflers to a 3in pipe but still run the stock piping to it.
Good question!
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:02 AM   #100
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Uh btw is a muffler delete illegal in California?
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