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Old 02-16-2011, 11:47 PM   #26
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Been waiting for this forever,
Lets see if full-race was bull****ing or not!
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:05 AM   #27
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Been waiting for this forever,
Lets see if full-race was bull****ing or not!

i dont think full-race would bull**** around with there top quality turbo kits.
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:40 AM   #28
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lol i want to see it next to a vf52 lol
8374 next to a td04
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:55 AM   #29
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OMG it does exist!
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:07 AM   #30
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8374 next to a td04
DO WANT !!!!
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:00 AM   #31
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This is going to be interesting. If this thing spools the way I've read, it's going to set off an intense turbo race and some of these other companies are going to get left behind.

This thing looks incredible. Can't wait to see results.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:10 AM   #32
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Jeff! Get a few pots of coffe going and get your ass in gear man!
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:12 AM   #33
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dyno))) we wait dynoplot
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:34 AM   #34
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I can't wait to see the results either... if it these turbos perform as good as they have been hyped up to be, I'll be one of the first to buy Perrin's kit! Let's see some numbers Jeff!

EDIT: Jeff, are you guys planning on developing a twin scroll kit with these, or only sticking with single scroll?

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Old 02-17-2011, 09:43 AM   #35
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This is going to be interesting. If this thing spools the way I've read, it's going to set off an intense turbo race and some of these other companies are going to get left behind.

This thing looks incredible. Can't wait to see results.
Remember formula 1 is getting 4 cylinder turbo charge engine by 2013, so turbo technology advancements are bound to happen
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:53 AM   #36
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Oh god please develop a might twinscroll kit.....

What is with people and the twinscroll crap. I've yet to see a single twinscroll dyno chart that was impressive enough to get me to actually spend money on one.
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Old 02-17-2011, 10:27 AM   #37
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Jeff, you're da man! I will patiently await your results and I'm sure the data will be consistant and better yet there will be loads of it. I'm hoping to see awesome results. Keep up the good work Jeff!

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Old 02-17-2011, 10:40 AM   #38
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Pretty exciting. It should also put to rest a lot of intellectual debate on GTX vs EFR. Boost plots between the two would also be awesome to see.
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Old 02-17-2011, 11:42 AM   #39
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Man I can't wait to see dyno numbers.
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:17 PM   #40
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Oh god please develop a might twinscroll kit.....

What is with people and the twinscroll crap. I've yet to see a single twinscroll dyno chart that was impressive enough to get me to actually spend money on one.
Well maybe the EFR series will prove you wrong!?
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:23 PM   #41
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Well maybe the EFR series will prove you wrong!?
I really doubt it
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:39 PM   #42
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Oh god please develop a might twinscroll kit.....

What is with people and the twinscroll crap. I've yet to see a single twinscroll dyno chart that was impressive enough to get me to actually spend money on one.
Here is Leons HTA 35R TS


vs his single scroll




Need any more?
Here is Alcoolaids TS S300SX
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:45 PM   #43
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Here is Leons HTA 35R TS
I'm not going to get in a full on forum war with you about what a giant waste of money a twinscroll turbo is on a Subaru, especially not in Jeffs thread. Feel free to start another thread somewhere else where I most likely won't respond.
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:56 PM   #44
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^^
Haha - owned.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:10 PM   #45
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I'm not going to get in a full on forum war with you about what a giant waste of money a twinscroll turbo is on a Subaru, especially not in Jeffs thread. Feel free to start another thread somewhere else where I most likely won't respond.
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Haha - owned.
I won't say yes or no from a simple dyno plot...only and idiot would. You have to look at it in terms of response, as many guys will attest, that a twinscroll is more resonsive. Keep in mind that RPM is not Time but mearly crank velocity...now if you look at crank acceleration then you have a useful terms of comparing the two.

Yes, as far as power is concerned, they haven't 'WOWED' me.

^^^until either side of this argument can PROVE one way or another, please don't reply and litter this thread.

Back to the topic at hand...So Jeff, how long are you going to keep us waiting?
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:13 PM   #46
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its probably gonna take em a while to sawzaw the car to fit that thing in there
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:13 PM   #47
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I'm not going to get in a full on forum war with you about what a giant waste of money a twinscroll turbo is on a Subaru, especially not in Jeffs thread. Feel free to start another thread somewhere else where I most likely won't respond.
Oh wow, more retards joined the forum! Where they all coming from?
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:27 PM   #48
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Since my motor has been built, I've been looking for a new turbo setup and I have been stoked about these EFR's but they look like they will be a colossal PITA to fit.

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Old 02-17-2011, 04:33 PM   #49
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Wow that's a big boy! Why did BW decide to use an IWG over an EWG? Or are customers going to have the option to choose?

Thanks for sharing!
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Old 02-17-2011, 04:50 PM   #50
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if a turbo has an internal wg there's nothing stopping you from welding the wg shut and going external....or using a bracket to hold it shut and going external....just like most turbos have to do at the moment....vice the large turbos that only come with ext wg turbine housings

for the twin scroll applications they are offering the internals to save $$ and space

"EFR optional internal wastegates are aerodynamically-optimized to offer the same performance as an external wastegate recirculated back into the downpipe - no 90 degree corners here. This is a real "value" feature of the EFR program, particularly in the case of twinscroll applications which require (2) external wastegates, (2) manifold wastegate ports (2) dumptubes for maximum performance. Furthermore, the manifold fabrication and installation are both simplified with the wastegated EFR models. Boost levels can be easily adjusted by swapping adjustable wastegate canisters available in three different spring rates/boost levels. Lastly, different turbo clocking positions are easy to accomodate without changing the wastegate bracket. This is because the bracket is bolted to the bearing housing backing plate - not to the compressor housing as is the case with most internal WG turbos. For space constrained applications which can not fit the EFR internal WG or Hardcore racers that want to keep their dual external wastegates mounted to the exhaust manifold - you can do that too!"

http://www.full-race.com/articles/bo...fr-turbos.html
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