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Old 03-03-2011, 01:57 PM   #26
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Think so?
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_res...ts.aspx?subaru
Just don't think they rated newer models yet or maybe just don't care to for some reason. If am not mistaken 08+wrx are all 1 piece seats, don't think their are 2piece ones for them.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:01 PM   #27
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Interesting. I've had mine modded since 15k and now, at 60k, she's still running perfectly, even with weekend auto crosses and arctic temperatures.

Stupid ****ing kids.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:29 PM   #28
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These reviews are on stock card correct? So mods should not matter...?
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:38 PM   #29
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Consumer Reports is a bunch of BS for the most part. Plus that only has the STI no review on the WRX model
This is a common sentiment when a study's findings do not agree with our personal opinion. Pretty sure if the report said WRXs are "highly reliable" everyone would be espousing the high build quality of Subaru.

Just because it doesn't agree with your own feelings doesn't mean a report is "BS".
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:09 AM   #30
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This is a common sentiment when a study's findings do not agree with our personal opinion. Pretty sure if the report said WRXs are "highly reliable" everyone would be espousing the high build quality of Subaru.

Just because it doesn't agree with your own feelings doesn't mean a report is "BS".
Lets face it consumer reports doesn't test ****. This is not that its because a car I own got a poor rating. This is a company that gather what little information is out there from peoples opinions, etc doesn't question or do any investigation of their own and then announces it out like its facts. Why doesn't show the studys they did? Where are the facts that prove that wrx is more unreliable? What reason were they? What were the average cost of those extra relibility issues? How did they test to get those answers? Did you test the car on all types of surfaces and conditions?

No detailied information=complete BS. I call all those car and driver/motortrend reviews BS too. I use to receive free subsciption to car and driver and clearly remember 1 month they compared a 06 wrx to speed3. They said how the speed3 was much much faster than the wrx, that it was best bang for buck and wrx was old garbage pretty much. Posted the 0-60, 1/4mile etc to prove it. Ok I said whatever no biggie, however 3-4months later they compared the wrx, speed3 and few others and this time for some reason now the wrx was much much faster than the speed3. So how does the same cars get different results? Easy different driver in it however now which numbers do people believe? Speed3 or wrx? Now in all honestly don't give 2 ****s which one is faster but now you have readers who either believe speed3 or wrx are slow. Since majority of people in this country are just zombies and believe everything they read they never bother to question how do they get the results.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:38 AM   #31
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A lot of owners don't want to believe that.
just like SRT-4 owners that are in denial that their cars are neons.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:40 AM   #32
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just like SRT-4 owners that are in denial that their cars are neons.
there are still srt4's on the road? I thought they have either all been wrapped around a tree or had the engine grenade by now...
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:58 AM   #33
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The only reason I can think of that the WRX isn't that reliable is because people mod the crap out of them. When you start making serious changes to ANY vehicle, you start to sacrifice that reliability. I know a couple of people with full race cars, and it seems like it spends 90% of their time in a shop getting something fixed or modified.

That said, I really haven't met anyone with a virgin WRX that has had any big problems with it. Modified, I have seen several blown engines.
I'm modded and have no problems, but hey, that's just my car.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:13 PM   #34
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The Subaru Impreza was on the list in either the Top 5 or Top 10 (can't remember) but what was interesting is that there was a little asterisk which, at the bottom, said "Excluding WRX". I still don't know what that meant. Could it be because of how fast it is? Or the fact that it comes stock with summer tires maybe? I have no idea.

Oh well, guess we'll all just have to be happy driving an unreliable car that's not safe!
The WRX line has fixed headrests unlike the 2.5i models.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:45 PM   #35
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140k on the wrx.
Been in for warranty once, ran over a dead deer and busted the exhaust at the cat. Tried it and replaced under warranty.
Wife's burb has had 2 gauge clusters, leaky intake gasket and a leak from the windshield in 1 year.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:14 PM   #36
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Well, i dont really think the wrx is that reliable for a car.
But As for a performance car, its pretty solid.

Consumer reports are mostly average joes who are only interested in commuter cars like camrys and civics.

They probably dont even know what a boxer engine is, or have a clue about symmetrical awd.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:50 PM   #37
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Well, i dont really think the wrx is that reliable for a car.
What are you basing this on? Personal experience? Mind sharing more detail? What do you consider reliable?
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:12 AM   #38
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I just grabbed my auto issue and looked at the "reliability ratings" in the back and they reported that the WRX was the least reliable in terms of major mechanical issues in 2005 and 2009. Then 2006 and 2008 got "perfect" ratings. Either this is bogus or i'm missing something about the differences amongst those years...anyone have any ideas??
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:46 AM   #39
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You can't just go ad hominem on Consumer Reports. There is likely some truth/data behind what is printed. That being said, data can be incomplete, skewed, or affected by a number of biases or factors not taken into account. Also, correlation does not necessarily equal causation; just because there is a higher incidence of issues with WRXs than regular Imprezas, it does not necessarily reflect build quality or reliability. Taking into account the differences in owner bases and driving habits or conditions, it actually does make some sense. For the most part, high performance = high maintenance.

I'm hardly offended or surprised by their "findings" or even by the suggestion. For example, It's likely that more WRXs are crashed or damaged than regular Imprezas. Does that make WRXs dangerous cars? No. But it could be made to seem that way in print, based on numbers and stats.

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Old 03-05-2011, 11:31 AM   #40
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Would never pay that for a wrx
Agree. Spending $32K+ for a WRX is just plain absurd. People seem to forget that it's based on an $18K economy car. For $14K extra you get the same interior design, crappy paint, noisy ride, rattle-filled interior, etc. I bought my '09 WRX 5-door Premium new for $24,300. Even that seemed like a lot to me considering it's still just an Impreza.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:53 PM   #41
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I own two acuras and we all know honda is pretty reliable. Well my modded subie has been just as reliable. But maybe its just me.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:48 AM   #42
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I dont think consumer report looks at modded wrx.. and reliability is not related to crashing.. these cars get tested aand apparently wrx rnt that great.
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Old 03-06-2011, 10:00 AM   #43
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I think if WRXs were driven like base imprezas they would be just as reliable.
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:14 AM   #44
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I think if WRXs were driven like base imprezas they would be just as reliable.
Mine is. I hardly ever go above 3K RPMs. I'm a little bitch..
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:17 AM   #45
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This thread is moderately hilarious. Have any of the CR bashers ever read the magazine? They do rely heavily on consumer feedback, but they do also drive & test vehicles. They also research the other products they review. Anyways, my guess is improper maintenance has a lot to do with these results. The NA is gonna be a lot more forgiving if the owner never changes the oil than the turbo.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:52 PM   #46
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I don't own a newer WRX but i do have a 92 Legacy SS and it has over 320k on it. It is still on the org. engine and trans and diff and well just about everything, including turbo! I think Subaru's are quite well built. Then again as people expect to pay less for a car, the quality can only be so good. The automakers don't make cars because they love cars, and care about what some people say. They love having islands in places you can't find on a map lol just saying.....
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:25 PM   #47
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It's various reasons... modding of course is number one. Second, the general age of most buyers being 18-30ish... most of which just want to look cool and drive fast cars. Others will say no, but for every forum member who takes great care of their WRX, there's another guy out there just mashing the gas... not concerned even with their oil.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:39 PM   #48
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I know I saw it mentioned before, that the WRX/STi are built in Japan, not here. Could that have anything to do with reliability?
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:19 PM   #49
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Reliability data is that of vehicles that have been DRIVEN, i.e. (ab)used by their drivers. mrkyle3 nailed it. And there IS a statistically significant difference on how an average WRX/STi owner drives his car vs. how a 2.5i owner drives his. You could probably nail it down to how often an average 2.5i sees the >5000 rpm range as opposed to a WRX.

Let's keep in mind that especially since 2008, the 2.5i became just another compact, geared at a market which never ever visits an automotive forum (how many N/A owners are on here and rs25 vs the total amount of n/a owners in the country?), doesn't know what RE92s are, and thinks a tachometer makes the car "sporty". Just because of grandma driving, reduced wear&tear accounts for a good chunk of increased reliability...
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:35 PM   #50
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Too many people mod the Wrx ,and mod it Wrong,blow a motor, or burn a clutch out ect...then put it back to stock,and then sometimes get warranty work okd on it. This reflects as a Subaru quality issue. Most sti owners have more money, and understand you have to pay to play. They fix their own mistakes, and cr is none the wiser. Regular impreza, well my mom drives one, never over 3k lol.
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