The 3M carbon fiber DI-NOC thread! - Page 3

1RandomW · 03-06-2011, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Louie

I did the interior trim of my 2010 LGT.
Before

it looks pretty good the wood looked hideous !!

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skatin707 · 03-06-2011, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Teh Police

Im not flaming, do as you would like to your car. Buuuut, this 3m crap is horrible. To the OP, you can get the pieces that you covered in the sticker fake stuff for like 30-50 dollars in real carbon fiber. Soon people will be covering their hoods and trunks with this stuff.

People already do.

Roof

jdmimprez · 03-06-2011, 10:02 AM

Definitely doing my roof w this stuff, but i wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing this stuff was on my hood or trunk. All other pieces sone real CF fabric and Epoxy resin/hardner can fix.

Louie · 03-06-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jdmimprez

Definitely doing my roof w this stuff, but i wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing this stuff was on my hood or trunk. All other pieces sone real CF fabric and Epoxy resin/hardner can fix.

Before you do your hood/roof...whatever...

the 3m brand stuff isn't made to be removed, it pretty much destroy's everything it touches when its removed. The stuff that headlight armor uses is made for automotive/marine uses and can be removed. Granted that the 3m looks a little better, the HA stuff is easier to use.

iknowphritter · 03-06-2011, 10:19 AM

I like this stuff. My question for exterior stuff is how tough is it?? Or will it start peeling or chipping real easily.

Louie · 03-06-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by iknowphritter

I like this stuff. My question for exterior stuff is how tough is it?? Or will it start peeling or chipping real easily.

I think if it gets rocks smacking it on the freeway you will end up with blemishes. But I saw on a video where they heat it up with a heat gun and stretch it over a sharp corner of a table without it tearing. I think its pretty durable.

Teh Police · 03-06-2011, 02:09 PM

What happened to people doing things the right way?

Louie · 03-06-2011, 02:55 PM

Yeah cause various interior and other accessory parts are readily available...

dub599 · 03-06-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Teh Police

What happened to people doing things the right way?

yay! you dont like di-noc, congrats. you have already pointed that out. go be a douche somewhere else. if you dont like it, then dont come in the thread

skatin707 · 03-06-2011, 04:20 PM

So, where is a good place to acquire some of this stuff?

Louie · 03-06-2011, 04:48 PM

Yeah cause various interior and other accessory parts are readily available...

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 05:21 PM

We just ordered a 60"x100' roll of 3M Di-Noc

Maviryk · 03-06-2011, 05:30 PM

I'd love to do my inner door handle trim with the stuff. The cheap silver coated plastic wear easy, but not too optimistic with covering the hole for the handle.

NutWagon · 03-06-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vision.dynamix

We just ordered a 60"x100' roll of 3M Di-Noc

Sweet, Wrap us some items and let us know how well it works. Im thinking of buying the small sheet, To do a test on some items.

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 05:34 PM

Lol I know how the stuff works..I wouldnt drop ~$3k on a roll of material Im not confident in.

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 05:36 PM

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louie

Before you do your hood/roof...whatever...

the 3m brand stuff isn't made to be removed, it pretty much destroy's everything it touches when its removed. The stuff that headlight armor uses is made for automotive/marine uses and can be removed. Granted that the 3m looks a little better, the HA stuff is easier to use.

False. You can remove the 3M Di-Noc just like you can any vinyl. We recently removed it from the roof of a M3 that had it on for a year.

Louie · 03-06-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vision.dynamix

False. You can remove the 3M Di-Noc just like you can any vinyl. We recently removed it from the roof of a M3 that had it on for a year.

Really? It pulled the gloss finish off of the interior trim when I removed it. I then read that it isn't maid to be removed... maybe it was from a competitor, I don't remember.

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 05:45 PM

Well, its adhesive so when youre applying it to something that was painted, if the paint-plastic/metal bond isnt as strong as the vinyl-paint bond, then yeah youre going to lose the finish.

On painted body panels, you really dont have to worry unless the paint was f'ed up/paint prep sucked.

You cant just go peeling it cold, though. We heated it with a torch and heat gun and it came right off. A simple clay/polish/wax on the roof and you could never tell it had anythign on it.

Louie · 03-06-2011, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vision.dynamix

Well, its adhesive so when youre applying it to something that was painted, if the paint-plastic/metal bond isnt as strong as the vinyl-paint bond, then yeah youre going to lose the finish.

On painted body panels, you really dont have to worry unless the paint was f'ed up/paint prep sucked.

You cant just go peeling it cold, though. We heated it with a torch and heat gun and it came right off. A simple clay/polish/wax on the roof and you could never tell it had anythign on it.

So for the commoner (like me) this shiet is permanent.

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 05:53 PM

lol. It was no different than removing standard vinyl..I found it a lot easier than stripping the MySubie vinyl off my car.

skatin707 · 03-06-2011, 05:55 PM

How much more expensive is this stuff compared to standard matte black car vinyl?

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 06:01 PM

Well, Ill be billed somewhere around $3000 for the 60"x100' roll of Di-Noc Carbon
Oracal 970RA Wrapping (Air Release) Matte Black is ~$500 for a 60"x75' roll. (Anyone who has half a clue what theyre doing will use this for wrapping)
Oracal 651 Matte Black is $175 for a 48"x150' roll. (Oracal 651 is the industry standard for cut vinyl. It does work for wrapping, but its not fun)

skatin707 · 03-06-2011, 06:14 PM

Wow, that is a significant difference!

Where would a normal person pick this stuff up at?

vision.dynamix · 03-06-2011, 06:19 PM

How much of it are you looking for? Smaller amounts are available on eBay, various sites on the web. MachV (FastWRX) here on NASIOC has the best prices IME for smaller stuff.

There are distributors who have 48"x50', 48"x100' and 48"x154' rolls. There is only 1 place to get it in 60" width.

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03-06-2011, 10:02 AM	#53
jdmimprez Scooby Specialist Member#: 153318 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Hurlburt Field FL Vehicle: 09 IS350 Lexus	Definitely doing my roof w this stuff, but i wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing this stuff was on my hood or trunk. All other pieces sone real CF fabric and Epoxy resin/hardner can fix.

03-06-2011, 10:19 AM	#55
iknowphritter Scooby Newbie Member#: 226141 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Newtown, CT Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sedona Red	I like this stuff. My question for exterior stuff is how tough is it?? Or will it start peeling or chipping real easily.

03-06-2011, 02:09 PM	#57
Teh Police Scooby Specialist Member#: 246204 Join Date: May 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Dude Bro, Michigan Vehicle: My Subaru Forester is White.	What happened to people doing things the right way?

03-06-2011, 02:55 PM	#58
Louie Scooby Guru Member#: 43393 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Middle River Vehicle: 2011 STi WRB	Yeah cause various interior and other accessory parts are readily available...

03-06-2011, 04:20 PM	#60
skatin707 Scooby Specialist Member#: 251552 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Delaware Vehicle: 06 STI SGM	So, where is a good place to acquire some of this stuff?

03-06-2011, 04:48 PM	#61
Louie Scooby Guru Member#: 43393 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Middle River Vehicle: 2011 STi WRB	Yeah cause various interior and other accessory parts are readily available...

03-06-2011, 05:21 PM	#62
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston	We just ordered a 60"x100' roll of 3M Di-Noc

03-06-2011, 05:30 PM	#63
Maviryk Scooby Newbie Member#: 257080 Join Date: Sep 2010	I'd love to do my inner door handle trim with the stuff. The cheap silver coated plastic wear easy, but not too optimistic with covering the hole for the handle.

03-06-2011, 05:34 PM	#65
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston	Lol I know how the stuff works..I wouldnt drop ~$3k on a roll of material Im not confident in.

03-06-2011, 05:36 PM	#66
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston

03-06-2011, 05:45 PM	#69
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston	Well, its adhesive so when youre applying it to something that was painted, if the paint-plastic/metal bond isnt as strong as the vinyl-paint bond, then yeah youre going to lose the finish. On painted body panels, you really dont have to worry unless the paint was f'ed up/paint prep sucked. You cant just go peeling it cold, though. We heated it with a torch and heat gun and it came right off. A simple clay/polish/wax on the roof and you could never tell it had anythign on it.

03-06-2011, 05:53 PM	#71
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston	lol. It was no different than removing standard vinyl..I found it a lot easier than stripping the MySubie vinyl off my car.

03-06-2011, 05:55 PM	#72
skatin707 Scooby Specialist Member#: 251552 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Delaware Vehicle: 06 STI SGM	How much more expensive is this stuff compared to standard matte black car vinyl?

03-06-2011, 06:01 PM	#73
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston	Well, Ill be billed somewhere around $3000 for the 60"x100' roll of Di-Noc Carbon Oracal 970RA Wrapping (Air Release) Matte Black is ~$500 for a 60"x75' roll. (Anyone who has half a clue what theyre doing will use this for wrapping) Oracal 651 Matte Black is $175 for a 48"x150' roll. (Oracal 651 is the industry standard for cut vinyl. It does work for wrapping, but its not fun)

03-06-2011, 06:14 PM	#74
skatin707 Scooby Specialist Member#: 251552 Join Date: Jul 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Delaware Vehicle: 06 STI SGM	Wow, that is a significant difference! Where would a normal person pick this stuff up at?

03-06-2011, 06:19 PM	#75
vision.dynamix NASIOC Supporter Member#: 139955 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: #BostonStrong Vehicle: # OneBoston	How much of it are you looking for? Smaller amounts are available on eBay, various sites on the web. MachV (FastWRX) here on NASIOC has the best prices IME for smaller stuff. There are distributors who have 48"x50', 48"x100' and 48"x154' rolls. There is only 1 place to get it in 60" width.