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Old 06-30-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
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Just curious if anyone knows what happened to the work Knight Motorsports was doing in terns of race applications for the 4EAT. I was doing some Googling and came across the name Jon Ryther. I soon learned that in the early 2000's, this guy was already working on reverse engineering the TCU, was building 4EATs into manu-matic boxes that would hold in certain gears, etc.

I know there are some high-end guys to go to beyond IPT for 4EAT work currently that offer more than what is typical - Rigoli Performance is the main one that comes to mind.

However, did anything ever come of the 4EAT developments started by Jon Ryther? He seemed to really be doing a lot of things that 4EAT guys today are looking for and was willing to do it for pretty affordable prices.

Anyways, just thought I'd ask. Someone must be lurking around here that was around back then to know what was going on.

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Old 07-05-2011, 09:00 PM   #2
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i 2nd that, i'm interested too:-)
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:51 PM   #3
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I think a lot of guys with the 4eat would be interested. Only heard of one thread where a guy was working with someone to make a paddle shift kit and then TIC put a post for some interest about a 4EAT option of some kind, but was not going to do anything until the other guy's option worked or did not work. Still waiting for updates.
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:21 PM   #4
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WhiteLegacyguy on here is a transmission wizard, he built my 4EAT and I made 651FT lbs of TQ last summer without an issue. I also know he has built Rob58 a custom 4EAT and also another good friend of mine. Using full manual valve bodies and other mods the 4EAT is a good solid trans.
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:41 PM   #5
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There's a guy here in Colorado who can build a monster 4EAT. A friend of mine has one in his car. Totally driver controllable shift points. Lights it up in 3rd gear if he wants to. But we're talking something like $6000-7000, which makes for a very limited market.

Hell, people hear that a front diff for the box costs $1300 and they run and hide. I don't think it's a matter of there not being people out there who can build a good EAT. It's more a matter of there's a very limited number of people willing to spend what it takes.
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Old 07-06-2011, 07:04 PM   #6
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Paddle shift is available for JDM 4EAT which have tiptronic(sport shift),i have Works Bell paddle shifter which works perfectly,but biggest problem in auto mode is shifting ponts which are annoying in my view,i've almost everytime drive in tiptronic mode...
Still on 350BHP with VF34 shifting great,but i'm now will be run more than 450-500whp,not sure if its hold without the some upgrades,due this 6speed or PPG is only way,much cheaper option than built 4EAT

About the building 4EAT,not sure if its worth,in my view no,if i would want build 4EAT here in UK i need at least 6k-7k($9k-$10.5k) and still will be not best like for 500whp.


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Old 07-07-2011, 07:48 PM   #7
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Just curious if anyone knows what happened to the work Knight Motorsports was doing in terns of race applications for the 4EAT. I was doing some Googling and came across the name Jon Ryther. I soon learned that in the early 2000's, this guy was already working on reverse engineering the TCU, was building 4EATs into manu-matic boxes that would hold in certain gears, etc.

I know there are some high-end guys to go to beyond IPT for 4EAT work currently that offer more than what is typical - Rigoli Performance is the main one that comes to mind.

However, did anything ever come of the 4EAT developments started by Jon Ryther? He seemed to really be doing a lot of things that 4EAT guys today are looking for and was willing to do it for pretty affordable prices.

Anyways, just thought I'd ask. Someone must be lurking around here that was around back then to know what was going on.

Thanks.
I work for Sway-A-Way, the company that designed/built the dampers for their rally team. I personally don't know whatever happened to the whole
rally team/project (since it is before my time working here), but you can try contacting Jon Ryther via PM. His user name on here is "RallyKnight".
I know their goal at the time was to build a competitive rally car from US and local mfgs./suppliers vs. conventional
overseas companies. This was to help bring down the costs of building a car and at the same time, support local companies.

I believe they were working with Rancho Transmissions on the 4EAT development, so if you can't get in contact with Jon, you
can try them. They specialize in transaxles for dragracing/street use, but are better known for the off-road racing side of the company.

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Old 07-08-2011, 02:38 PM   #8
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Brian,
Are you talking about Rancho Performance in Fullerton? If so, I should ring them up and talk...
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:38 AM   #9
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Are you talking about Rancho Performance in Fullerton? If so, I should ring them up and talk...
Yes. That's them.
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There's a guy here in Colorado who can build a monster 4EAT. A friend of mine has one in his car. Totally driver controllable shift points. Lights it up in 3rd gear if he wants to. But we're talking something like $6000-7000, which makes for a very limited market.

Hell, people hear that a front diff for the box costs $1300 and they run and hide. I don't think it's a matter of there not being people out there who can build a good EAT. It's more a matter of there's a very limited number of people willing to spend what it takes.
Hello Matt
Bought one of your modena 4eat front diffs - thanks!
Any idea where I could get a billet 2-4 brake servo assembly for a phase 1 transmission. What about your Colorado contact. Need one asap.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:59 AM   #11
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Anyone got any other ideas?
Tried mv autos - australia - don't do.
Bsm - australia - no reply
Gzm - australia - no reply
white legacy guy - pm'd, but hasn't been on site since 7th may
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:16 PM   #12
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Anyone got any other ideas?
Tried mv autos - australia - don't do.
Bsm - australia - no reply
Gzm - australia - no reply
white legacy guy - pm'd, but hasn't been on site since 7th may
Contact White Legacy Guy on his youtube channel.
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Old 08-04-2013, 04:18 PM   #13
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Contact White Legacy Guy on his youtube channel.
Thanks. I'll try it.
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:25 AM   #14
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I need this:

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Old 08-20-2013, 04:50 PM   #15
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Whitelegacyguy quoted $320 on his youtube site. Can anyone point him to this discussion?
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Old 01-07-2014, 03:51 PM   #17
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yeah im ready to go auto as well but seems no one will share info or even offer services.

If I go as far as taking one aprt and making my own stuff you can be dang sure id offer the services since everyone else seems to be shady about it
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