Guide to fitting wheels and tires to the 2011+ WRX - Page 14

cyrenus · 10-07-2011, 12:26 PM

I'll admit I didn't read through the whole thread, but I doubt this question has come up, and so I hope it doesn't ruffle anyone's feathers. I just bought a '11 WRX and realize those stock summer tires aren't going to cut it in a N. Dakota winter.

So, my question is, will the OEM UK17s I had on my '02 WRX work fine on the '11? I'm pretty certain the bolt-spacing and offset are okay, just not sure about brake clearance. As I recall they're 17x7 with 53 offset and used a 215/45-17 tire. They've just been gathering dust for two years now, so I thought these would be great for mounting winter tires in the original 215/45-17 size. I assume it's even less of a concern to go down in size, rather than up. Any input or knowledge anyone can share is greatly appreciated. Even a scolding, if I deserve one, will be given due consideration.

CORRECTION: From doing a little research into the UK17s, it looks like they have a 55 offset. Not sure how that will affect what I've asked here.

AND ANOTHER QUESTION: I completely forgot about the TPMS -- can the sensors be added to wheels that don't come with them as OEM? Hate that TPMS stuff, sorry.

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Mach V Dan · 10-10-2011, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyrenus

So, my question is, will the OEM UK17s I had on my '02 WRX work fine on the '11? I'm pretty certain the bolt-spacing and offset are okay, just not sure about brake clearance. As I recall they're 17x7 with 53 offset and used a 215/45-17 tire. They've just been gathering dust for two years now, so I thought these would be great for mounting winter tires in the original 215/45-17 size.

My guess is that they'll fit. The 2011 front brakes are no bigger than the 2003-04 WRX brakes. (Sad. The 2006-07 WRX had the bigger four-pots, but Subaru cheaped out in 2008.)

Quote:

AND ANOTHER QUESTION: I completely forgot about the TPMS -- can the sensors be added to wheels that don't come with them as OEM? Hate that TPMS stuff, sorry.

They can be added to some, but not all. I don't know the answer on these wheels. If you're prepared to not run TPMS, than you'll be fine. And if the sensors fit, it's a bonus.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

cyrenus · 10-11-2011, 12:18 AM

Thanks, Dan, I appreciate your response. Am now leaning toward just mounting some dedicated snows in the OEM size on the the factory wheels and switching back to the summer tires come late spring -- winter is about 7 months long up here, so at least I won't have to deal with it 'til well into next year. Did I mention I hate TPMS?

RyanCuad · 10-12-2011, 04:45 PM

how about 18x9.75 +20 w/ 275/40r18's with a 2.5" lift? 1" spacer kit and 1.5" spring lift. figured just a 1" lift wouldn't be enough.

Mach V Dan · 10-12-2011, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanCuad

how about 18x9.75 +20 w/ 275/40r18's with a 2.5" lift? 1" spacer kit and 1.5" spring lift. figured just a 1" lift wouldn't be enough.

So...if you add enough total lift to the body, you'll be able to clear just about any wheel and tire combo, since the suspension can only compress so much. I'm not exactly sure how much you'd have to lift it to get that much clearance.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

J_Maher_WRX · 10-13-2011, 06:49 AM

Hey Dan, just had a question about two different wheels on your site. Why are the Rota D's so cheap say in comparison to the Rota Options??

Mach V Dan · 10-13-2011, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX

Hey Dan, just had a question about two different wheels on your site. Why are the Rota D's so cheap say in comparison to the Rota Options??

The Rota D's are priced per piece, the Options are priced per set.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

dubster99 · 10-15-2011, 08:38 PM

How close were those 18x9.5" +40's with 245's you posted close to rubbing? The wheels I'm looking at are 18x9.5" +38..also looking at a 245 tire. That blue '11 is pretty much the exact fitment I'm looking for.

H-I Los · 10-16-2011, 02:26 PM

Dan, nice write up. Very informative.

glilly told me about your website, www.fastwrx.com , already been doing some window shopping on it. Expect an order soon

Mach V Dan · 10-17-2011, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubster99

How close were those 18x9.5" +40's with 245's you posted close to rubbing? The wheels I'm looking at are 18x9.5" +38..also looking at a 245 tire. That blue '11 is pretty much the exact fitment I'm looking for.

That should fit fine.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

ex25rs · 10-24-2011, 07:50 PM

Sorry if this is considered a bump after a week of inactivity, but I had some questions for Dan. My knowledge of these new generation of Subarus is fairly limited, as my last Subaru was a 2.5RS (hence the username).

I'm under the impression that CCW Classics can be ordered to specs provided by customers, i.e. diameter/width, hub bore size, offset. Being the case, what would be the optimal offset for a 18x10 wheel to fit on a '11 hatch? Another concern is optimal tire size- I'm not a fan of skinnier, low profile tires (though I know the profile increases in size as a tire widens) and was thinking of 265/40/18. Also in consideration is 275/35/18. Not a fan of the super stretched look. The roads around the bay area aren't too great, and having the extra "cushion" leaves my mind at ease. I don't mind rolling the rear/front fenders, though ideally it wouldn't require much more work than that.

Paired with the wheels will be a set of H&R coilovers. Just looking for something decent for the street; won't see any track/race use. Is there anything else better for the money? About $1200, IIRC. Also need to look into other small bits and pieces, though I'm not sure if I'll need a camber kit. I don't plan on "slamming" the car. Like I said, the car will be for the street, so at most some aftermarket bushings, sway bars and end links.

Post is a bit long, and I appreciate any insight you have.

z-logic · 10-24-2011, 08:44 PM

2011 sti I put on Rota Grids 18x9.5 front an rear with 38 offset. It is aggressively wide, flush with fender with stock camber. If you go to 30 it would need more camber and 20 would be crazy amoun of camber. Running stock tires 245/40/18 stretched but not crazy stretched. But I already rubbed curb as tire is not bulging to protected rims. I would say for lowering I may have been better getting a less aggressive offset as now the tire is under the fender where it can have rubbing issues. Stock suspension now and fenders are not rolled, it doesn't rub. I will report back when I put coil overs on in the next month.
Flat black actually looks good.

You need 5mm spacers in front for brembo clearance.

Great rims!

ex25rs · 10-24-2011, 08:52 PM

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm trying to stick with relatively stock camber settings, i.e. nothing beyond -3, and that may be pushing it. I don't really have intentions of running larger brakes in the future, so I'm not sure if I should "future proof" my offset when ordering the wheels. Maybe an upgrade to the '04-'07 four pots. Not even sure if that's a viable swap; still new to these later generations.

What I'm most concerned about right now is good fitment without rubbing in the desired 18x10 size, and either 265/40/18 or 275/35/18 tires. I've gone through the 19x10 thread, and though the idea has popped in my head, I've decided it's ultimately too big a hassle to go an extra inch in diameter.

Mach V Dan · 10-24-2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex25rs

Being the case, what would be the optimal offset for a 18x10 wheel to fit on a '11 hatch?

I'm thinking something like +45.

Quote:

Another concern is optimal tire size- I'm not a fan of skinnier, low profile tires (though I know the profile increases in size as a tire widens) and was thinking of 265/40/18. Also in consideration is 275/35/18. Not a fan of the super stretched look.

I would highly advise staying within 2% of stock diameter. The 275/35R18 is closer to stock size, and will probably be an easier fit because despite being wider than stock STI tire, it's 0.5% shorter, instead of being 2.6% taller. 265/35R18 is still less than 2% smaller than the stock STI size, and it's actually EXACTLY the same as the stock 235/45R17 WRX size tire.

Quote:

Paired with the wheels will be a set of H&R coilovers. Just looking for something decent for the street; won't see any track/race use. Is there anything else better for the money?

We've departed from wheel and tire fitment here. Let's stick to that topic in this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by z-logic

2011 sti I put on Rota Grids 18x9.5 front an rear with 38 offset...You need 5mm spacers in front for brembo clearance.

Just to be clear, you need the spacers with that particular wheel in that particular fitment. Many other wheels with the same size and offset will not require spacers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex25rs

What I'm most concerned about right now is good fitment without rubbing in the desired 18x10 size...

Why are you so focused on the 10" wheel width? For a 265 I'd go with a 9.5" wheel.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

ex25rs · 10-24-2011, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach V Dan

I'm thinking something like +45.

I would highly advise staying within 2% of stock diameter. The 275/35R18 is closer to stock size, and will probably be an easier fit because despite being wider than stock STI tire, it's 0.5% shorter, instead of being 2.6% taller. 265/35R18 is still less than 2% smaller than the stock STI size, and it's actually EXACTLY the same as the stock 235/45R17 WRX size tire.

We've departed from wheel and tire fitment here. Let's stick to that topic in this thread.

Just to be clear, you need the spacers with that particular wheel in that particular fitment. Many other wheels with the same size and offset will not require spacers.

Why are you so focused on the 10" wheel width? For a 265 I'd go with a 9.5" wheel.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

Greatly appreciate the response. This will be going on an '11 WRX hatch, sorry for not clearing that up earlier. As far as why I want to go with a 10" wide wheel, it's more a question of why I wouldn't. Availability is a non issue, and the extra .5" isn't a dramatic difference in fitment from what I see. Please correct me if I am wrong. An unknown factor is if running that extra .5" (vs. a 9.5" wide wheel) may deteriorate handling/performance in some way. It may sound silly, but it's also a matter of being unique in a way. I see 9.5" setups all day, but not much in the 10" wide category.

So the intended setup now is a 18x10 wheel, ~+45 (will research the offset more before actually pulling the trigger), with 275/35/18 tires. I'd imagine a fender roll is definitely needed- I'd like to avoid pulling any fenders if possible. Also would like to be able to bring the steering to full lock and not rub on any suspension parts or splash guards.

This isn't a very familiar territory for me. When I had my RS, I thought the 16x8 wheels were pushing it

ac85 · 10-28-2011, 11:28 AM

hey dan, can i have your opinion/feedback on tire size 225/40r18 vs 255/35r18
on a 18x8.5 +44 rim? pros? cons?

Mach V Dan · 10-31-2011, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac85

hey dan, can i have your opinion/feedback on tire size 225/40r18 vs 255/35r18
on a 18x8.5 +44 rim? pros? cons?

225 is pretty skinny on an 8.5" wheel. Remember that 245/40R18 is stock STI size.

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

Simplypenney · 10-31-2011, 09:45 AM

Here's some pictures for fitment reference.

2011 WRX Hatch

Wheels:
Varrstoen 2.2.1's 18x9.5 +34 5x100 Flat Black

Tires:
Hankook Evo V12's 265/35/18

Stock Suspension, Rear fenders are rolled. There's no rubbing. Not sure the roll was necessary but planning ahead for lowering in the spring.

Little Poke

SCRAPPYDO · 10-31-2011, 10:06 AM

That just does not work for me. Looks forced and ill fitting.

@ ex25rs, There is no such thing as a proper fitting 10" rim. It is too darn wide. You will be doing detrimental things to your handling, as the ability to put a contact patch that wide and flat will not be possible with stock camber settings. The weight of the rim and tire will effect the way your suspension reacts, and itwill increase your braking distances.

going to a 10" tire is purely a looks thing if your into that sort of look. It is not for performance unless you have Major dollars of supporting equipment to take advantage of the extra width.

I would wager most stock rimmed/tired STI's would be faster in any measurable competition.

sc00by4life · 11-01-2011, 11:48 AM

A 10" wheel (or even a 9.5") is not unique in anyway, ESP on the new chassis. Want to be unique? Try a functional fitment hhahaha.

ex25rs · 11-01-2011, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

That just does not work for me. Looks forced and ill fitting.

@ ex25rs, There is no such thing as a proper fitting 10" rim. It is too darn wide. You will be doing detrimental things to your handling, as the ability to put a contact patch that wide and flat will not be possible with stock camber settings. The weight of the rim and tire will effect the way your suspension reacts, and itwill increase your braking distances.

going to a 10" tire is purely a looks thing if your into that sort of look. It is not for performance unless you have Major dollars of supporting equipment to take advantage of the extra width.

I would wager most stock rimmed/tired STI's would be faster in any measurable competition.

After more thought (and thanks to Simplypenney's photos) I've decided to go with 9.5". I was under the impression that a 10" wheel would sit "flush" on these newer wide body styles, but I stand corrected. I am indeed going for a functional fitment and am not into the "hella flush" scene, and fully intend on retaining stock or near-stock camber settings. The purpose of this vehicle is to be a DD. Though, I'll need to do a bit more research on offset. I was considering between +40 and +48, with H&R coilovers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc00by4life

A 10" wheel (or even a 9.5") is not unique in anyway, ESP on the new chassis. Want to be unique? Try a functional fitment hhahaha.

My line of thinking is that since most people go 9.5", I'd go an extra .5" to be "unique." And yes, I am going for a functional fitment, as stated above, I despise the "hella flush" "stance works" "fatlace" "canibeat" movement. This is just a DD and I have no intentions of tracking it in anyway- there are other toys for those purposes.

AKWRXHI · 11-04-2011, 12:54 PM

Hi Dan, I am looking @ using 18 x 9 wheels with a offset of 45. What tire size do you recommend? I am thinking of 255/40/18 Bf Goodrich kdw 2s'

Car is a 2011 sedan @ stock height, plan on leaving @ stock height.

Thanks

CapeCod27 · 11-05-2011, 08:17 AM

I just put 2011 Legacy premium rims and tires (stock) on my 11 wrx sedan for the winter and they fit great!

darkantz · 11-07-2011, 08:52 AM

I am looking for 265/35/18 tire without any rolling or mods for my 08 Sti.
Can anyone confirm that will work with me without doing any other mods?
Thanks in advance.
Current:
Advan RZ 18x9 +45MM
Dunlop SP600 245/40/18
KW V3 lower ~10mm (rear)

Mach V Dan · 11-07-2011, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKWRXHI

Hi Dan, I am looking @ using 18 x 9 wheels with a offset of 45. What tire size do you recommend? I am thinking of 255/40/18 Bf Goodrich kdw 2s'

Sounds good to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkantz

I am looking for 265/35/18 tire without any rolling or mods for my 08 Sti.

I don't think I've seen anyone run 265/35R18 with no rolling on a lowered car, without any contact. Maybe mount the 265's on the wheels you have to see how they're going to fit?

--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com

10-07-2011, 12:26 PM	#326
cyrenus Scooby Newbie Member#: 169523 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dickinson, ND Vehicle: 2011 WRX Hatch DGM	I'll admit I didn't read through the whole thread, but I doubt this question has come up, and so I hope it doesn't ruffle anyone's feathers. I just bought a '11 WRX and realize those stock summer tires aren't going to cut it in a N. Dakota winter. So, my question is, will the OEM UK17s I had on my '02 WRX work fine on the '11? I'm pretty certain the bolt-spacing and offset are okay, just not sure about brake clearance. As I recall they're 17x7 with 53 offset and used a 215/45-17 tire. They've just been gathering dust for two years now, so I thought these would be great for mounting winter tires in the original 215/45-17 size. I assume it's even less of a concern to go down in size, rather than up. Any input or knowledge anyone can share is greatly appreciated. Even a scolding, if I deserve one, will be given due consideration. CORRECTION: From doing a little research into the UK17s, it looks like they have a 55 offset. Not sure how that will affect what I've asked here. AND ANOTHER QUESTION: I completely forgot about the TPMS -- can the sensors be added to wheels that don't come with them as OEM? Hate that TPMS stuff, sorry. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by cyrenus; 10-08-2011 at 11:42 AM.

10-24-2011, 08:44 PM	#337
z-logic Scooby Newbie Member#: 288551 Join Date: Jul 2011 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Jupiter Vehicle: 2011 STI White Sedan	2011 sti I put on Rota Grids 18x9.5 front an rear with 38 offset. It is aggressively wide, flush with fender with stock camber. If you go to 30 it would need more camber and 20 would be crazy amoun of camber. Running stock tires 245/40/18 stretched but not crazy stretched. But I already rubbed curb as tire is not bulging to protected rims. I would say for lowering I may have been better getting a less aggressive offset as now the tire is under the fender where it can have rubbing issues. Stock suspension now and fenders are not rolled, it doesn't rub. I will report back when I put coil overs on in the next month. Flat black actually looks good. You need 5mm spacers in front for brembo clearance. Great rims! Last edited by z-logic; 10-28-2011 at 04:24 PM.

11-07-2011, 08:52 AM	#349
darkantz Scooby Newbie Member#: 151426 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LA<-> Portland Vehicle: 08 STi & Tribeca DGM	I am looking for 265/35/18 tire without any rolling or mods for my 08 Sti. Can anyone confirm that will work with me without doing any other mods? Thanks in advance. Current: Advan RZ 18x9 +45MM Dunlop SP600 245/40/18 KW V3 lower ~10mm (rear) Last edited by darkantz; 11-10-2011 at 12:40 AM.

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J_Maher_WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 290307 Join Date: Aug 2011	Hey Dan, just had a question about two different wheels on your site. Why are the Rota D's so cheap say in comparison to the Rota Options??

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H-I Los Scooby Newbie Member#: 297847 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Houston, Tx Vehicle: 2011 WRX WR Blue Pearl	Dan, nice write up. Very informative. glilly told me about your website, www.fastwrx.com , already been doing some window shopping on it. Expect an order soon

10-24-2011, 07:50 PM	#336
ex25rs Scooby Newbie Member#: 147181 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Vehicle: 2006 Evo IX MR Wicked White	Sorry if this is considered a bump after a week of inactivity, but I had some questions for Dan. My knowledge of these new generation of Subarus is fairly limited, as my last Subaru was a 2.5RS (hence the username). I'm under the impression that CCW Classics can be ordered to specs provided by customers, i.e. diameter/width, hub bore size, offset. Being the case, what would be the optimal offset for a 18x10 wheel to fit on a '11 hatch? Another concern is optimal tire size- I'm not a fan of skinnier, low profile tires (though I know the profile increases in size as a tire widens) and was thinking of 265/40/18. Also in consideration is 275/35/18. Not a fan of the super stretched look. The roads around the bay area aren't too great, and having the extra "cushion" leaves my mind at ease. I don't mind rolling the rear/front fenders, though ideally it wouldn't require much more work than that. Paired with the wheels will be a set of H&R coilovers. Just looking for something decent for the street; won't see any track/race use. Is there anything else better for the money? About $1200, IIRC. Also need to look into other small bits and pieces, though I'm not sure if I'll need a camber kit. I don't plan on "slamming" the car. Like I said, the car will be for the street, so at most some aftermarket bushings, sway bars and end links. Post is a bit long, and I appreciate any insight you have.

10-24-2011, 08:52 PM	#338
ex25rs Scooby Newbie Member#: 147181 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Vehicle: 2006 Evo IX MR Wicked White	Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm trying to stick with relatively stock camber settings, i.e. nothing beyond -3, and that may be pushing it. I don't really have intentions of running larger brakes in the future, so I'm not sure if I should "future proof" my offset when ordering the wheels. Maybe an upgrade to the '04-'07 four pots. Not even sure if that's a viable swap; still new to these later generations. What I'm most concerned about right now is good fitment without rubbing in the desired 18x10 size, and either 265/40/18 or 275/35/18 tires. I've gone through the 19x10 thread, and though the idea has popped in my head, I've decided it's ultimately too big a hassle to go an extra inch in diameter.

10-28-2011, 11:28 AM	#341
ac85 Scooby Newbie Member#: 278852 Join Date: Apr 2011	hey dan, can i have your opinion/feedback on tire size 225/40r18 vs 255/35r18 on a 18x8.5 +44 rim? pros? cons?

10-31-2011, 09:45 AM	#343
Simplypenney Scooby Newbie Member#: 106610 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Vehicle: 2011 WRX Hatch SWP	Here's some pictures for fitment reference. 2011 WRX Hatch Wheels: Varrstoen 2.2.1's 18x9.5 +34 5x100 Flat Black Tires: Hankook Evo V12's 265/35/18 Stock Suspension, Rear fenders are rolled. There's no rubbing. Not sure the roll was necessary but planning ahead for lowering in the spring. Little Poke

10-31-2011, 10:06 AM	#344
SCRAPPYDO Scooby Guru Member#: 873 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Just outside of Houston TX Vehicle: 2013 Golf R 1971 240Z	That just does not work for me. Looks forced and ill fitting. @ ex25rs, There is no such thing as a proper fitting 10" rim. It is too darn wide. You will be doing detrimental things to your handling, as the ability to put a contact patch that wide and flat will not be possible with stock camber settings. The weight of the rim and tire will effect the way your suspension reacts, and itwill increase your braking distances. going to a 10" tire is purely a looks thing if your into that sort of look. It is not for performance unless you have Major dollars of supporting equipment to take advantage of the extra width. I would wager most stock rimmed/tired STI's would be faster in any measurable competition.

11-01-2011, 11:48 AM	#345
sc00by4life Scooby Guru Member#: 97135 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bothell	A 10" wheel (or even a 9.5") is not unique in anyway, ESP on the new chassis. Want to be unique? Try a functional fitment hhahaha.

11-04-2011, 12:54 PM	#347
AKWRXHI Scooby Newbie Member#: 298600 Join Date: Oct 2011 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage, AK Vehicle: 2011 WRX premium Silver	Hi Dan, I am looking @ using 18 x 9 wheels with a offset of 45. What tire size do you recommend? I am thinking of 255/40/18 Bf Goodrich kdw 2s' Car is a 2011 sedan @ stock height, plan on leaving @ stock height. Thanks

11-05-2011, 08:17 AM	#348
CapeCod27 Scooby Newbie Member#: 207701 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Cape Cod, Massachusetts Vehicle: 2012 STI sedan STG 3 SWP	I just put 2011 Legacy premium rims and tires (stock) on my 11 wrx sedan for the winter and they fit great!