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Old 10-21-2011, 08:04 PM   #1
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Default Project WRX7.... ROTARY IN A BUGEYE

so we decided to put a 13b RE-W inside my bugeye. im just going to post a link on the build. feel free to like us om fb! we are located in san antonio tx.


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Old 10-21-2011, 10:33 PM   #2
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Why not a ej25 or do a ls1 swap
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:55 PM   #3
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a few actually weight size constraints the LS1 is just heavier, the 13B engine is compact and can provide the target horse power and response requirements we are looking for. We want something reliable, that can provide a flat torque band. The LS1 is a great engine but just doesnt meet the ease of maintenance requirements we want this project to fit either. the ej25 would not be cost effective.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:08 AM   #4
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Sorry but rotary and reliable doesn't fit in the same sentence. The LSx would be a much more reliable setup in my opinion.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:14 AM   #5
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one bad rotary experience was enough for me. best of luck with it though its definitely an interesting swap.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:21 AM   #6
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Don't know what triangle motors get such a bad rap...yes, the cooling system on the 13b is inadequate from the factory, but those issues can be easily fixed. Also, don't drive it like a grandma to avoid carbon buildup.

Cool project!
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:21 AM   #7
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This is an awesome idea man, I can't wait to see how this turns out. Definitely a unique build, good luck with it!
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:26 AM   #8
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thanks for the support guys!! like us on facebook! and i dont think this car will be driven like a grandma haha..
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:47 AM   #9
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Ls1 are dirt cheap. And you would not have any turbo headaches. Even if you did the 5.3 ls engine would be quick. My brother has a lsx miata. I have had a rx7 before and it is nothing compared to an ls miata.

I do like rotary. But for the work involved an ls would be a choice with much mire potential.
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:38 PM   #10
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I am not going to have any "turbo headaches" if you know what you are doing theres nothing to worry about. im not going be gay and put any sort of american anything in my car.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:05 PM   #11
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Most of the ls motors are made in Canada or Australia bud. Just cause it's in an American car. Also it does not mater how well it's made and put together with the heat and pressure you get from turbo cars causes failures with gaskets. Sleeves and so on. An ls motor would simply not have to work as hard to create same hp as a "gay" 1.3l

I have owned and built turbo cars and na you simply don't have to worry about lag and a narrow rpm band. With turbo cars you will have more moving parts which will wear or break

I enjoy the rotary I owned an fd and I loved it but I would not put a rotary in a car which already is interchangeable with an amazing engine.

Would it not be hard when you get spanked by a ej257. I see humor in it. I can see your car on fail blog displacement fail
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:09 PM   #12
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I am not going to have any "turbo headaches" if you know what you are doing theres nothing to worry about. im not going be gay and put any sort of american anything in my car.
You're a friggen idiot. Good luck on your build.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:36 PM   #13
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Epic.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:43 PM   #14
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With turbo cars you will have more moving parts which will wear or break
are you saying that a turbo rotary will have more moving parts than a n/a pushrod v8???
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:54 PM   #15
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oh my lord... goodluck to you. a rotary is the LAST thing I would have picked. I rather have a toyota camry swap
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:00 PM   #16
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I'd be interested in seeing your build! My fav swap prolly of all time is from a really old option 2 video where there was an AE86 with a 20B. I have never seen a car spin the tires at fwy speed like that one did! I honestly wouldn't put an LS1 into my suby, but that's just me. That's why we all have our own cars, we can do what the hell we all please with our own stuff. Good luck to you
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:51 PM   #17
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a few actually weight size constraints the LS1 is just heavier, the 13B engine is compact and can provide the target horse power and response requirements we are looking for. We want something reliable, that can provide a flat torque band. The LS1 is a great engine but just doesnt meet the ease of maintenance requirements we want this project to fit either. the ej25 would not be cost effective.
Is that why there are so many 13B swaps in Corvettes?
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:12 AM   #18
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a few actually weight size constraints the LS1 is just heavier, the 13B engine is compact and can provide the target horse power and response requirements we are looking for. We want something reliable, that can provide a flat torque band. The LS1 is a great engine but just doesnt meet the ease of maintenance requirements we want this project to fit either. the ej25 would not be cost effective.
What is so hard to maintain about an LS1? Please enlighten me as I have owned four LSx powered vehicles and they have been nothing short of a joy to maintain.

The LS1 is heavier... by 40 pounds. You're right though, the extra four liters of displacement probably isn't worth it.

You want something with a flat torque band, so you chose a rotary motor over an LS1? Is that some kind of joke?

And yeah, putting a 13b into a Subaru is way more budget-friendly than an EJ25x.
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:40 PM   #19
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:22 PM   #20
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ahh if V8's are your thing, go V8. If rotarys are your thing, Go Rotary, IF you prefer the good ol EJ series, then do that, either way, none of them are "cheap". maybe he had a wrx with a blown motor, and a 13b sitting in the garage.

The guys obviously not building the car to make other people happy. hes doing it for himself and has chosen something different. I mean who the hell cares if he puts a damn steam engine in it. its his car.

The other thing that should be mentioned is that they run a rotary shop. Rotary's are their thing.....clearly. so if you fix rotary's, have access to rotary's, know them inside and out...... why doesn't it make sense that they chose a rotary?


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Old 11-03-2011, 01:38 AM   #21
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I would like to see vids when done!!!!
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:59 PM   #22
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My RX7 had 255,000 miles on the original engine when I gave it away. There is no smoother engine that burns dinosaurs.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:20 AM   #23
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quote from face book
"Start B-Roll) Look wanna drift? have no driving talent? Have not skills or knowledge on how to build a reliable tuner car? Dont want to listen to an experienced shops advice? Don't know how to save money or have patience to build a quality setup with quality parts? EASY!

Put an LSX engine in it! just mash the throttle then while over-steering counter-steer! You'll look like a pro in no time! Saves on learning technique, and finesse when alls ya gotta do is mash the throttle!

Good old internet forums and US drifting....when even in your "passions and hobbies" you look for shortcuts and easy ways out! Motorsports in all forms takes time dedication and persistence...Practice makes perfect...and learning technique and working your way up in car setup/power will make you a better driver in the long run...."

at what point did drifting,skill or practice?

i am into the swap, just wondering,
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:30 AM   #24
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<--- Is very confused at this point....
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:43 AM   #25
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american stuff not made in america is gay, lsx engines suck,how not to act if you are representing a business,

all i needed to see was how far back that that motor was mounted and i was on board, its to bad he took peoples questions as attacks,
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