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Old 11-09-2011, 12:48 AM   #1176
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My invidia tbe will have cost me just over $1100 new and with a catted dp and ti tip q300. You guys need to shop around and do some haggling.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:58 AM   #1177
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Has anyone heard anything on the release of the muffler for the sedans? I've inquired a couple times and haven't received a response.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:24 PM   #1178
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Has anyone heard anything on the release of the muffler for the sedans? I've inquired a couple times and haven't received a response.
I don't think that's going to happen
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:31 PM   #1179
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Oh ya? Any details on this?
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:48 PM   #1180
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Shot a little video of what my exhaust sounds like right now. I'm stage 1 (torqued performance map) and have a K&N intake on. Car sounds much deeper compared to when it as just stock. Only reved to about 3.5K but hope you guys can still hear the difference. Also got my DDM HID 6000K lights installed

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Old 11-11-2011, 02:22 PM   #1181
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I don't think that's going to happen
Where are you getting this info?
Last time I spoke to Jason he told me you could call the shop and place an order for one. I could be wrong. I'll get him to weigh in on here if i can.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:56 AM   #1182
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Shot a little video of what my exhaust sounds like right now. I'm stage 1 (torqued performance map) and have a K&N intake on. Car sounds much deeper compared to when it as just stock. Only reved to about 3.5K but hope you guys can still hear the difference. Also got my DDM HID 6000K lights installed

Prepare your angus
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:03 AM   #1183
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Haha I already got a ton of flame on here for those -_-
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:27 AM   #1184
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^ it's okay, I got DDM's too, just the 4300 but they've been great for me in the months i've had them Go DDM!
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:41 AM   #1185
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Haha yeah I don't care about the flamers. I mean putting aftermarket HIDs in projectors isn't that bad.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:14 AM   #1186
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Did the ddm 5k here. Cut off isn't that bad really. Definitely made the car safer to drive at night. Haven't been flashed not even once. I've had them on for a few months now with no problems.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:56 PM   #1187
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I emailed John at Nameless earlier this morning about the muffler and heard back nearly immediately, talk about amazing customer support! Here is the response I received...

"Jason and I are going back and forth on the muffler for this. We will be bringing this to production but it will be expensive. These mufflers are extremely labor intensive to build, one takes half a day to build and I am the only one who can build them.


We are doing everything we can to get them to the point where we don't have to charge 400+ for just the muffler.


As of now I don't have an estimated release date, but if you follow us on facebook you will be one of the first to know.


Thanks"

Honestly, I am deeply in love with the tone my axle back produces, but not too crazy about the pretty loud in cabin sound shifting through gears and going up hills etc... A muffler would be PERFECT and I'd be willing to pay a good amount for it as Nameless is making quality products. Hope it does in fact get released! I might try just calling them and seeing if I can order just this part.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:05 PM   #1188
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Thanks for the info. I've already put in an order for a Q300 and will be putting my axle back up for sale once it's off the car. It's a great product, but i've ran out of patience waiting for an answer. Besides, the Q300's can be had for under 800. Sounds like NP will be around 1200-1300 for the whole muffled system. Seems like a no brainer to me, considering the similarities between the two.
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:52 PM   #1189
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Putting on my Perrin catted downpipe soon. Wonder how loud it will make my axleback sound. Now I just need a midpipe
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:04 PM   #1190
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Some things I would avoid buying off ebay... exhaust pieces and things that are just pieces of metal the only thing you are getting when you pay more for them is the name.
Not true. My experience: I bought an ebay knock off catback for my 05 a long time ago. It was advertized as 304SS. Everything was 304 BUT a 1-2 foot section from the resonator to the flange. Said section was covered in rust in a couple years.

I bought a knock off Large TMIC for the same car. The y-pipe to turbo hose was too big around to be air tight on the turbo, even with big time clamps. It was boost leak city. I was unable to find a y-pipe replacement that fit the TMIC.

Knock off usually means this... You will save money for the moment and most likely have to fix something. You may have to throw it away.

I bought the Nameless Axleback too. I'm happy. It has the classic boxer rumble on the gas, but it's quiet at normal temp idle and cruising. No more headaches after long trips. I did some math too. If exhaust flow is relative to whp gains... If people are really getting 270-280whp protuned OEM equipment on a high reading dyno... I think it will have enough flow for 300whp combined with the Nameless midpipe and a DP. The nameless axleback gives about 12% more flow than OEM. Also, 270whp + 12% is about 300whp. Valid statement?

Notes: 2011 WRX Sedan OEM axleback is 1.75" pipe x 2. Nameless is 2" x 2. Area of a circle is Pi x radius squared.

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Old 11-24-2011, 09:41 PM   #1191
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Just installed mine!!! I LOVE IT!!!
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:08 PM   #1192
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Recorded a little video clip for you guys. I installed my Perrin 3.0" catted downpipe paired to my Nameless Performance axleback running the Torqued Performance stage 2 tune+K&N intake. The exhaust note is now ridiculously deep sounding with the downpipe. Yes it is much louder but it sounds 10x's better! Idle and startup are pretty similar to how it sounded with just the axleback but once you get on the gas the sound change is incredible with the downpipe. It is just so DEEP! I'll do a drive by clip soon. Couldn't really rev my car since it was getting late but heres an idea of what it sounds like.

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Old 11-30-2011, 12:59 PM   #1193
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Hey guys, just wanted to chime in here. We just announced our new mufflerized axlebacks for the 2011+ sedan!

you can pre-order them here

Jason should be posting up an official announcement soon.

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Old 11-30-2011, 01:14 PM   #1194
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Not true. My experience: I bought an ebay knock off catback for my 05 a long time ago. It was advertized as 304SS. Everything was 304 BUT a 1-2 foot section from the resonator to the flange. Said section was covered in rust in a couple years.

I bought a knock off Large TMIC for the same car. The y-pipe to turbo hose was too big around to be air tight on the turbo, even with big time clamps. It was boost leak city. I was unable to find a y-pipe replacement that fit the TMIC.

Knock off usually means this... You will save money for the moment and most likely have to fix something. You may have to throw it away.

I bought the Nameless Axleback too. I'm happy. It has the classic boxer rumble on the gas, but it's quiet at normal temp idle and cruising. No more headaches after long trips. I did some math too. If exhaust flow is relative to whp gains... If people are really getting 270-280whp protuned OEM equipment on a high reading dyno... I think it will have enough flow for 300whp combined with the Nameless midpipe and a DP. The nameless axleback gives about 12% more flow than OEM. Also, 270whp + 12% is about 300whp. Valid statement?

Notes: 2011 WRX Sedan OEM axleback is 1.75" pipe x 2. Nameless is 2" x 2. Area of a circle is Pi x radius squared.
One thing I think you forgot is the baffled mufflers that the stock system has. those provide some fantastic restriction to the system and make you 12% number pretty low compared to reality. We haven't done any real world testing but here is a comparison of a 3" pipe to our dual 2" pipes:

3" OD tube = ~7.0685775
2" OD tube = ~3.14159

So it follows that 2 * 3.14159 = 6.28318

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7.0685775 - 6.28318 = 0.7853975 of difference in size of the axlebacks to a straight 3" pipe. This is 89% of the total volume of a 3" pipe. If you assume the exhaust is cooling as it travels from the turbo outlet to the tailpipe, the pipes are almost perfectly sized to flow the same as a 3" pipe. (Cooler air is more dense than hot air so the same amount of cool exhaust will fit down a smaller tube than the hot exhaust did)

The point I am trying to make is that the axleback should be able to support as much power (possibly more since the pipe is sized correctly to avoid any strange turbulence) as a straight 3" exhaust.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:14 PM   #1195
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Doesn't colder more dense air move slower through the pipe compared to hotter air though? Don't get me wrong, I've talked with you on the phone awhile back, been reading posts from you for a while and by no means am I saying you don't know what you are taking about, just trying to get all the info on the table.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:25 AM   #1196
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Doesn't colder more dense air move slower through the pipe compared to hotter air though? Don't get me wrong, I've talked with you on the phone awhile back, been reading posts from you for a while and by no means am I saying you don't know what you are taking about, just trying to get all the info on the table.
It does if it has a chance to slow down. An exhaust system is a compromise between flow and velocity.

If you want to keep flow to a maximum then the exhaust would be a cone from the turbo to the back of the car getting larger as it goes back...but there are fitment issues as well as turbulence issues. basically what happens in this system is that the exhaust piles up in the cone as it gets colder but since the volume of the pipe is getting larger it keeps going until it can exit. The result out the tailpipe would be a slow moving front of air that just falls out. Another problem with this system is that you can get a build up of exhaust that acts as a plug and causes extra back pressure.

The flip side to this is an inverted cone scaled to the temperature characteristics of the exhaust as it travels to the rear of the car. With this system the velocity through the pipe would stay static (theoretically). The theory behind this is that as long as the area of the pipe to volume of air ratio stays constant, the velocity of the air would be static. This happens because the same number of molecules are moving through the pipe all the time rather like a straight tube with constant temperature air moving through it. The problem with this is that manufacturing a bent cone is next to impossible...

The real problem is that with any exhaust you are pushing the entire column of exhaust from the turbo. Because of this fact you will always have some back pressure in the system.

Our systems are designed to provide the best compromise of flow and velocity.

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Old 12-01-2011, 08:15 AM   #1197
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Do you guys test your products for its air flow? If so, how? How do they compare to other cbe or tbe, how is yours better? Help me justify the expense of your exhaust versus another brand that is engineered for the same potentials.
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Do you guys test your products for its air flow? If so, how? How do they compare to other cbe or tbe, how is yours better? Help me justify the expense of your exhaust versus another brand that is engineered for the same potentials.
We test our products in the computer then dyno and street test the final design to prove it. Most of our design work is done on the fly during the prototype phase drawing on our years of experience with what works, what doesn't work, what looks cool but doesn't add any value other than looks, etc...

I build all of the prototypes here and I always apply the lessons I have learned while building high output turbo cars (2500whp is my record so far) to the product I am working on at the time. I apply the same experience to every product no matter how mundane it may seem. Some design choices may seem to go against the grain of common thought...and they do in some cases but it is not common to see a 2500whp "street" car and the lessons learned during the build are surprising sometimes.

If you want to compare designs you will find that our designs at least equal our top competitor in performance and in most cases will exceed them. We have not tuned a car with our products to it full potential so we can not say for sure that our parts absolutely make more power and even if we had, the person doing the tuning has almost as much impact on the tune as the parts do. The best example of this is the Evo that English Racing built that ran 10.8 in the quarter mile. That Evo was only able to do this because the folks at English Racing are tuning wizards.
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I've had the axle back for about 5 months now and really like it. A few weeks ago I installed the mid pipe, which was pretty easy thanks to the 3 piece design.

The cat back isn't obnoxious at warm idle and normal driving. Put your foot down and she roars!

This is on a 2011 STI Sedan

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I've had the axle back for about 5 months now and really like it. A few weeks ago I installed the mid pipe, which was pretty easy thanks to the 3 piece design.

The cat back isn't obnoxious at warm idle and normal driving. Put your foot down and she roars!

This is on a 2011 STI Sedan

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuEB6RNoQQo&feature=channel_video_title
Sounds very nice!!
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