Utah, not the worst place to drive?

Whattheo · 12-09-2011, 10:56 AM

Growing up in Utah I was convinced that Utah has some of the worst drivers in the state. I like to drive and do a lot, for work(sometimes), commute, and for fun. I have driven all over the US from PA to AK, and have seen some horrible drivers.

According to Utah public safety Utah ranks in the lower half of the US witch is pretty good.

http://publicsafety.utah.gov/highway...ings6-2010.pdf

I am still convinced that Utahn's suck at driving, due to my personal experiences;

-Drivers treat the passing lane as the carpool lane, traveling at 65mph, not moving over when you want to pass and when you pass them on the right they race you, flash there lights when you get back into the passing lane, then tailgate even though you are now traveling 75+mph.

(me first even if I'm going slower than you! syndrome)

-Drivers slowing down when changing lanes, speed up to the flow of traffic people!

-No one will let you in when merging, speeding up to close that huge gap you have been signaling for.

-No one stops at crosswalks, I've seen 3 pedestrians get hit in crosswalks just this year.

Post your bad experiences driving in Utah and what makes you think it so bad.

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Momosaurus WRX · 12-09-2011, 11:00 AM

Practically nobody uses blinkers.

When you're turning and it's a one lane road, people will go around you in the shoulder. Once upon a time I turned right then was making an immediate left, and my right blinker was when I started slowing down. the guy behind me passed me on the left as I changed the blinker and started turning. I had no idea he was there until He started honking at me and sped up. ONE LANE ROAD. WAIT FOR THE GUY WHO IS TURNING.

smdandb2 · 12-09-2011, 11:11 AM

I've driven in lots of different states and Utah is no different than the rest for the most part.

However there does seem to be one trait in Utah that drives me absolutely bat**** insane... people drive like they are the ONLY ONES ON THE ROAD. I have a few friends that think the roads are theirs only. I watch them take 2 miles to accelerate to 40mph and drive 60 on the freeway in the left lane. I just cringe when I look in the mirror and see cars stacking up.

I've just learned to drive like an *******. I pass on the right and use the carpool lane for passing if I have to. Hasnt bit me in the ass yet.

MarcosV · 12-09-2011, 11:29 AM

I skate and bike a lot and ur so right about Bo one stopping at crosswalks. I have gotten hit twice myself from people going to about the middle of an intersection just to make a right turn. But LA is so much worse, I got cut off by a motorcycle cop on the freeway. And if you leave a foot between you and the car in front of you, two more cars find their way in your lane; but at least they use turn signals.

ashergrey · 12-09-2011, 12:07 PM

I'll never complain about how Utahns, or any Americans, drive after traveling abroad. Be happy with what we've got... it could be much worse.

MY EJ20TTTTTT · 12-09-2011, 12:17 PM

Last weekend I drove from Virginia to Pittsburgh to volunteer some of my free time and see my brother who lives there. On the way back on the PA turnpike and I-70 in Maryland, not once, twice, but three times I come up on cars from VIRGINIA that won't move right. I mean come on if your going to pace, at least form a single line and follow it. PACING hits a nerve in me, and doesn't help the line of cars behind me either.

Eww Evo · 12-09-2011, 12:33 PM

They just need to fix all the pot holes

Momosaurus WRX · 12-09-2011, 12:41 PM

That's a never ending process.

fircrest · 12-09-2011, 12:50 PM

I'm a distance runner, you know, one of those fruits that runs around in short shorts? In Portland, OR I always kept a look-out for stupid elitist cyclists - the cars weren't much to worry about. Here, however, I've been clipped by several cars. People just don't look out for anyone - especially when exiting a parking lot - look out for pedestrians before you cross the sidewalk. I may be running at a quick pace, but not fast enough to be invisible.

fourmicah · 12-09-2011, 01:28 PM

Get off your mother fucqing cell phones! 99% of the people in this state can't drive without that thing stuck to their heads. There is nothing that important that anyone needs to be on it while driving!

MY EJ20TTTTTT · 12-09-2011, 01:59 PM

Fourmicah, I agree, Its interesting to note that watching a driver texting or driving with their phone to their ear, they just sit and stay on it for long periods of time while driving. One time a woman passed me, phone to her ear, and I passed her some milage down the road (30 miles?) she was still on the phone. Not only is she distracted, but she is a bored driver. = drunk driver

soundsofsnow · 12-09-2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashergrey

I'll never complain about how Utahns, or any Americans, drive after traveling abroad. Be happy with what we've got... it could be much worse.

^^this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eww Evo

They just need to fix all the pot holes

You colorado people can chime in if i'm wrong, but i saw better roads in denver when i've always gone.

I've seen better roads throughout alaska too....utah's drivers may not be the worst (they're dumb though) but i'd argue their roads are some of the worst.

smdandb2 · 12-09-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundsofsnow

^^this.

You colorado people can chime in if i'm wrong, but i saw better roads in denver when i've always gone.

I've seen better roads throughout alaska too....utah's drivers may not be the worst (they're dumb though) but i'd argue their roads are some of the worst.

I was in the Denver Tech Center area this summer for work and I have to say the roads there were super crappy. There were some nice roads though in the nicer areas, but there was plenty of suck to be had there.

slowbugeye02 · 12-09-2011, 03:05 PM

I hate when people are turning right and don't get in the shoulder so you have to slow down until they turn, bugs me so bad!

MY EJ20TTTTTT · 12-09-2011, 03:06 PM

Slowbugeye, I know what you mean, especially when there is a turn lane!!!

Momosaurus WRX · 12-09-2011, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momosaurus WRX

When you're turning and it's a one lane road, people will go around you in the shoulder. Once upon a time I turned right then was making an immediate left, and my right blinker was when I started slowing down. the guy behind me passed me on the left as I changed the blinker and started turning. I had no idea he was there until He started honking at me and sped up. ONE LANE ROAD. WAIT FOR THE GUY WHO IS TURNING.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbugeye02

I hate when people are turning right and don't get in the shoulder so you have to slow down until they turn, bugs me so bad!

YOU! The shoulder isn't a turn lane.

Privates NHand · 12-09-2011, 11:33 PM

Drive in GA, where I'm from, not a damn person knows how a turn signal works

! I thought it was bad in UT until I went home. Holy shizit!!

slowbugeye02 · 12-10-2011, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momosaurus WRX

YOU! The shoulder isn't a turn lane.

haha ya just when there is room to get over you should get over to turn instead of hold up traffic.

Momosaurus WRX · 12-10-2011, 01:49 AM

If I'm turning right and it's a 1 lane road, the speed limit probably isn't more 30. It shouldn't take forever to make that turn. Be patient.

MarcosV · 12-10-2011, 02:31 AM

I also agree with the phone syndrome, and them when you honk at them because they don't move on a green light and they flip you off!!! WTF I'm not the one doing something wrong.

slowbugeye02 · 12-10-2011, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Momosaurus WRX

If I'm turning right and it's a 1 lane road, the speed limit probably isn't more 30. It shouldn't take forever to make that turn. Be patient.

The one lane roads don't bug me as bad, I was more leaning towards when redwood is 2 lanes and people won't get over for people to pass by. Also for turning lanes when they think they have this really big truck

so they have to kind of swerve out then turn, i love that!

hoffmanEstates · 12-10-2011, 11:02 AM

Come my neck of woods Chicago.

08WhiteRex · 12-10-2011, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundsofsnow

You colorado people can chime in if i'm wrong, but i saw better roads in denver when i've always gone.

I've seen better roads throughout alaska too....utah's drivers may not be the worst (they're dumb though) but i'd argue their roads are some of the worst.

NO. Denver roads are absolute garbage. They don't use salt here, so the snow sits on the pavement for a few days until they fiercely beat the packed snow off of it with plows. This results in the street being ripped apart. Then, instead of repaving the street and rethinking their snow removal practices, they either dig out the damaged portion and do a terrible refill (that usually doesn't end up being the same height as the original road surface), or they literally just smatter asphalt over the broken up section, which is rough as ****. It would be okay if the street had localized areas like that that you could avoid, but literally every inch of every street is like that. I've lost a ball joint, a damper, and 1 control arm bushing to Speer Blvd alone. My friend has also lost a couple of endlinks, a strut spindle, and an Anti Lift Kit. The roads here are ABSOLUTE TRASH. Also, the drivers here are just as bad as utah. If you guys want to experience frustration, go drive in boston. You've got to go full ******* on those people if you want to go anywhere.

Momosaurus WRX · 12-10-2011, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbugeye02

The one lane roads don't bug me as bad, I was more leaning towards when redwood is 2 lanes and people won't get over for people to pass by. Also for turning lanes when they think they have this really big truck

so they have to kind of swerve out then turn, i love that!

How about you move over a lane? lol. I'm from phoenix where the shoulder is for bikers and not for parking your car/using as a turn lane.

But I agree on bro trucks, they bug the crap outta me.

timmy05 · 12-11-2011, 12:23 AM

Utah is the worst I've seen if for no other reason than Mesmerized Mormon Syndrome. Traffic will slow to a crawl for 10 miles if there is ANYTHING involving flashing lights on the side of the road. In some cases the flashing lights aren't even necessary. Everyone just has to analyze every aspect of what might be happening off the road.

12-09-2011, 10:56 AM	#1
Whattheo Scooby Newbie Member#: 188224 Join Date: Aug 2008 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Earth Vehicle: MMV WRX 5D CGM	Utah, not the worst place to drive? Growing up in Utah I was convinced that Utah has some of the worst drivers in the state. I like to drive and do a lot, for work(sometimes), commute, and for fun. I have driven all over the US from PA to AK, and have seen some horrible drivers. According to Utah public safety Utah ranks in the lower half of the US witch is pretty good. http://publicsafety.utah.gov/highway...ings6-2010.pdf I am still convinced that Utahn's suck at driving, due to my personal experiences; -Drivers treat the passing lane as the carpool lane, traveling at 65mph, not moving over when you want to pass and when you pass them on the right they race you, flash there lights when you get back into the passing lane, then tailgate even though you are now traveling 75+mph.(me first even if I'm going slower than you! syndrome) -Drivers slowing down when changing lanes, speed up to the flow of traffic people! -No one will let you in when merging, speeding up to close that huge gap you have been signaling for. -No one stops at crosswalks, I've seen 3 pedestrians get hit in crosswalks just this year. Post your bad experiences driving in Utah and what makes you think it so bad. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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12-09-2011, 11:00 AM	#2
Momosaurus WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 214737 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Ogden	Practically nobody uses blinkers. When you're turning and it's a one lane road, people will go around you in the shoulder. Once upon a time I turned right then was making an immediate left, and my right blinker was when I started slowing down. the guy behind me passed me on the left as I changed the blinker and started turning. I had no idea he was there until He started honking at me and sped up. ONE LANE ROAD. WAIT FOR THE GUY WHO IS TURNING.

12-09-2011, 11:11 AM	#3
smdandb2 Scooby Specialist Member#: 70656 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Trampoline Land Vehicle: Old Mazda3 Hatch Shelby Lancer #623	I've driven in lots of different states and Utah is no different than the rest for the most part. However there does seem to be one trait in Utah that drives me absolutely bat** insane... people drive like they are the ONLY ONES ON THE ROAD. I have a few friends that think the roads are theirs only. I watch them take 2 miles to accelerate to 40mph and drive 60 on the freeway in the left lane. I just cringe when I look in the mirror and see cars stacking up. I've just learned to drive like an *****. I pass on the right and use the carpool lane for passing if I have to. Hasnt bit me in the ass yet.

12-09-2011, 11:29 AM	#4
MarcosV Scooby Newbie Member#: 274936 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: sandy, UT Vehicle: 2000 2.5rs rbp	I skate and bike a lot and ur so right about Bo one stopping at crosswalks. I have gotten hit twice myself from people going to about the middle of an intersection just to make a right turn. But LA is so much worse, I got cut off by a motorcycle cop on the freeway. And if you leave a foot between you and the car in front of you, two more cars find their way in your lane; but at least they use turn signals.

12-09-2011, 12:07 PM	#5
ashergrey Scooby Specialist Member#: 174533 Join Date: Mar 2008 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: SLC, UT Vehicle: 0694 WRXLtd/LegWagon WRB/Pure White	I'll never complain about how Utahns, or any Americans, drive after traveling abroad. Be happy with what we've got... it could be much worse.

12-09-2011, 12:17 PM	#6
MY EJ20TTTTTT Scooby Specialist Member#: 275239 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Northern Neck, VA Vehicle: 2002 Rallying WRX Rock chipped MBP	Last weekend I drove from Virginia to Pittsburgh to volunteer some of my free time and see my brother who lives there. On the way back on the PA turnpike and I-70 in Maryland, not once, twice, but three times I come up on cars from VIRGINIA that won't move right. I mean come on if your going to pace, at least form a single line and follow it. PACING hits a nerve in me, and doesn't help the line of cars behind me either.

12-09-2011, 12:33 PM	#7
Eww Evo Scooby Specialist Member#: 299687 Join Date: Nov 2011 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: WVC, Utah Vehicle: 2006 Impreza Wrx Track car in the making.	They just need to fix all the pot holes

12-09-2011, 12:41 PM	#8
Momosaurus WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 214737 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Ogden	That's a never ending process.

12-09-2011, 12:50 PM	#9
fircrest Scooby Newbie Member#: 193852 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: SLC Vehicle: 2004 Forester XT PSM	I'm a distance runner, you know, one of those fruits that runs around in short shorts? In Portland, OR I always kept a look-out for stupid elitist cyclists - the cars weren't much to worry about. Here, however, I've been clipped by several cars. People just don't look out for anyone - especially when exiting a parking lot - look out for pedestrians before you cross the sidewalk. I may be running at a quick pace, but not fast enough to be invisible.

12-09-2011, 01:28 PM	#10
fourmicah Scooby Specialist Member#: 128760 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Over there> Vehicle: 2012 Ruckus/WRX Red&White/Gray	Get off your mother fucqing cell phones! 99% of the people in this state can't drive without that thing stuck to their heads. There is nothing that important that anyone needs to be on it while driving!

12-09-2011, 01:59 PM	#11
MY EJ20TTTTTT Scooby Specialist Member#: 275239 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Northern Neck, VA Vehicle: 2002 Rallying WRX Rock chipped MBP	Fourmicah, I agree, Its interesting to note that watching a driver texting or driving with their phone to their ear, they just sit and stay on it for long periods of time while driving. One time a woman passed me, phone to her ear, and I passed her some milage down the road (30 miles?) she was still on the phone. Not only is she distracted, but she is a bored driver. = drunk driver

12-09-2011, 03:05 PM	#14
slowbugeye02 Scooby Newbie Member#: 284111 Join Date: May 2011 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: SL,UT Vehicle: 2004 FXT	I hate when people are turning right and don't get in the shoulder so you have to slow down until they turn, bugs me so bad!

12-09-2011, 03:06 PM	#15
MY EJ20TTTTTT Scooby Specialist Member#: 275239 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Northern Neck, VA Vehicle: 2002 Rallying WRX Rock chipped MBP	Slowbugeye, I know what you mean, especially when there is a turn lane!!!

12-09-2011, 11:33 PM	#17
Privates NHand Scooby Newbie Member#: 97327 Join Date: Sep 2005 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Murray, UT Vehicle: 2007 Toyota FJ Silver	Drive in GA, where I'm from, not a damn person knows how a turn signal works ! I thought it was bad in UT until I went home. Holy shizit!!

12-10-2011, 01:49 AM	#19
Momosaurus WRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 214737 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Ogden	If I'm turning right and it's a 1 lane road, the speed limit probably isn't more 30. It shouldn't take forever to make that turn. Be patient.

12-10-2011, 02:31 AM	#20
MarcosV Scooby Newbie Member#: 274936 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: sandy, UT Vehicle: 2000 2.5rs rbp	I also agree with the phone syndrome, and them when you honk at them because they don't move on a green light and they flip you off!!! WTF I'm not the one doing something wrong.

12-10-2011, 11:02 AM	#22
hoffmanEstates Scooby Guru Member#: 122043 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: aurora Vehicle: 04 wagonier psm	Come my neck of woods Chicago.

12-11-2011, 12:23 AM	#25
timmy05 Scooby Newbie Member#: 216339 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Lehi, UT Vehicle: 2008 WRX Sedan Silver	Utah is the worst I've seen if for no other reason than Mesmerized Mormon Syndrome. Traffic will slow to a crawl for 10 miles if there is ANYTHING involving flashing lights on the side of the road. In some cases the flashing lights aren't even necessary. Everyone just has to analyze every aspect of what might be happening off the road.