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Old 02-09-2012, 06:36 PM   #51
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I had an 18g xtr put in last week. My tuner left it wide open to warm it up an he's ganna lean on it tomorrow. I'll post the dyno this week.

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I'm aiming for just over 300whp on his mustang but it's known as the "heartbreaker". Seems to be 5-10% lower than everyone else's. Anyway right now the boost I not great but I think after tomorrow it will be where I want it. We will see. Please let me know at hat rpm you guys are seeing peak TW and HP. Thanks.
They are all known as the "Heart Breaker"...LOL, every dyno anywhere always "reads low" Never heard anyone say, "Damn, our dyno just reads way too high."

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bump, need more curves to pull the trigger, so far does not sound like a great turbo, it has been discounted too -$50.00 which adds to my hesitation.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:24 PM   #52
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^?????? this thread, #2, #3, #8 etc.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:50 PM   #53
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discounted for a reason lol, the 18g makes and holds power but no subie is going fast with em....strange turbo
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:09 PM   #54
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discounted for a reason lol, the 18g makes and holds power but no subie is going fast with em....strange turbo

I don't know where you get your information.
The 18G-XT is a great turbo for a daily driven car that is looking at something between the lag of a 20G and the punch of a VF turbo. There aren't a lot of "fast" cars out there with them because they aren't a 500hp turbo. They work great for the target power they were built for and they hit their designed power numbers with very little lag, smooth output and steady boost. They are an excellent Autox and drift turbo.

Next time I do a swap into an older Impreza I'm running a 2.2L with an 18G-XT. The torque is great, the feel is great and the power pulls to redline.

My next DD STi will get a 20G-XT.

My RS runs a custom Blouch 35R that rips.

I have used turbos by FP, Deadbolt, Element, Turbochargers.com, Kamak, Precision and ATP. The Blouch turbos are my favorite and will receive my money with very few exceptions. BW will be that exception depending on the build. FP will never get another dime from my company.

Blouch discounts all their turbos. They rotated the discounts on all of them to give the customer a chance to get the turbo they want at a lower price.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:56 PM   #55
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^this thread is for 18G-XT-R (ball bearing) so please let's keep this on topic.
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Old 02-11-2012, 09:43 AM   #56
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^this thread is for 18G-XT-R (ball bearing) so please let's keep this on topic.
You're hesitant about the turbo, so MPS gave their take (worth a lot more than most people's) on the 18G-XT. That is keeping it on topic.
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:04 PM   #57
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You're hesitant about the turbo, so MPS gave their take (worth a lot more than most people's) on the 18G-XT. That is keeping it on topic.
Very true, and dyno results with the two turbos on the same car show very similar results, with the 18g-XT-R having a slight, but very clear advantage in spool.
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Very true, and dyno results with the two turbos on the same car show very similar results, with the 18g-XT-R having a slight, but very clear advantage in spool.
As stated earlier that dyno comparo was from 2010 and the 18G-XTR was not out yet.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:04 AM   #59
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18g seems to show great results on dyno charts but nobody goes fast with em. I don't understand how a turbo pulls great to redline while my vf52 falls on its face and I seem to pull better times. Either everyone with a 18g can't drive or something strange about that turbo. 20g is strange too, people see 50-100whp with em and then go run mid 12s with em at the track. All Im saying is if I put a bigger turbo on my car, I wanna go faster and I don't need 500whp to do it. 18g doesn't really put down more peak hp than vf52 although it holds power longer. People should be running low 11.20s with em and 10.80s with a 20g. Most guys don't even run 10s with 30r
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:43 AM   #60
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18g seems to show great results on dyno charts but nobody goes fast with em. I don't understand how a turbo pulls great to redline while my vf52 falls on its face and I seem to pull better times. Either everyone with a 18g can't drive or something strange about that turbo. 20g is strange too, people see 50-100whp with em and then go run mid 12s with em at the track. All Im saying is if I put a bigger turbo on my car, I wanna go faster and I don't need 500whp to do it. 18g doesn't really put down more peak hp than vf52 although it holds power longer. People should be running low 11.20s with em and 10.80s with a 20g. Most guys don't even run 10s with 30r
if all you care about is 1/4 mile, why are you driving a Subaru? If all you care about is 1/4 mile, why would you assume that is only thing everyone else cares about? If you are such a hot driver, then it wont matter what turbo other guys run, you will beat them all; therefore, your advice on turbo choice is moot.
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SO for the zillion time everybody this thread is for the 18G-XT-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, R = ballbearing, so please comments on the 18G or 18G-XT do not belong here.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:25 PM   #62
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calm down. sit on the couch. take your meds.
its a god damn forum, and you dont own it.

seriously im not trying to be mean its a joke. but you need to chill man lol

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Old 02-13-2012, 04:49 PM   #63
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If all goes well I should be picking up the car tomorrow. Keeping the stock intake and running a Sti muffler will hinder the car from reaching ultimate power, but I'm sure I'll still be happy with it. I can't wait to pick it up!
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:43 PM   #64
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Post #35 in this thread explains why I did not end up going with the R version.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:21 PM   #65
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does not really explains it. What happened?
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:05 PM   #66
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Post #35 in this thread explains why I did not end up going with the R version.
I would like more details: why not the ball bearing version? How much HP and TQ did you get with the 18g-XT and at what RPM?

I am currently in the process of buying one or the other of those (in 8 or 10cm turbine housing, not decided) so please keep us update!
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The big difference in the turbos are the turbine wheels; the regular XT has the Mitsubishi TD05 journal bearing and the R version has the Garrett ball bearing. The Blouch rep claimed that the Garret Turbine wheel was larger than the Mitsubishi, and regardless of the R being ball bearing, it wouldn't spool faster. This didn't make since to me since they are both rated at 430hp on Blouch's site. Being Ball bearing, shouldn't the R spool faster versus the regular XT considering they have the same potential power? What's the point of having both turbos?

Since Blouch couldn't guarantee me that the R would spool faster, I decided to go with the proven results of the regular XT. It's a fantastic turbo with great off boost response, spool and pulls all the way to redline. Cobb said I was leaving 20hp on the table leaving my stock intake and stock sti muffler. I'm very happy .

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Cobb is working to get my graph (and dyno video!) on their dyno database. Once they do I'll upload a graph that's easier to see, I hate the mustang dyno print outs.
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if all you care about is 1/4 mile, why are you driving a Subaru? If all you care about is 1/4 mile, why would you assume that is only thing everyone else cares about? If you are such a hot driver, then it wont matter what turbo other guys run, you will beat them all; therefore, your advice on turbo choice is moot.
1/4 mile isn't all I care about but dyno numbers isn't all I care about either. Plenty of guys out there who can go fast too, Im just saying if I upgrade my turbo, I want to go faster not just have a better dyno sheet. Turbo 1200-1800$, retune 400-600$. I am here for one purpose only which is to change peoples minds about stock turbos. If you go big turbo, you minds well rebuild your block and upgrade your trans if you have 5 speed. Now your talking 5-10k but at least you can go fast...18g/20g waste of money in my opinion

Venders will hate me but until someone goes down the track and shows a good timeslip and proves me wrong...I stand by my word
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until someone goes down the track and shows a good timeslip and proves me wrong...I stand by my word

So which is it? My point is that what makes a good 1/4 mile car is not necessarily what makes for a good car for everyone else. If someone likes, say, canyon driving, where they are driving between 30 and 100 mph, then I bet a 20G car would put a whoopin' on the VF car. Or if someone likes doing highway pulls, 50 -120 or whatever, the 20G car will kill the VF car.

You don't need to push your opinions onto everyone else, we have right-wing religious zealots for that.
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yeahdude, the stage 2 plot is protuned? or OTS?
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Duplicated.
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Protuned with a turboback as the only mod. The 18G is night and day difference, no comparison.
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^ what's the 0-60 per APV2 now? 1/4?
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^ what's the 0-60 per APV2 now? 1/4?
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^ what's the 0-60 per APV2 now? 1/4?
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