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Old 02-21-2012, 10:07 PM   #76
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well, if they'd let me run with ballast of some sort as compensation for my lack of carpeting and backseat, I'd jump into Prepared.

Though really, I have a sub-100hp M10. They should let me do it just to be nice :P
"They" are your class competitors. If they don't protest and/or care, you can largely do what you want.

That being said, most of us follow the rules of the class.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:06 PM   #77
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Sneak peek spy photos of Roberto's RX7.



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Old 02-21-2012, 11:21 PM   #78
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Red rx7. How will I ever tell it apart from mine? I might accidentally take the wrong car out on my runs.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:35 AM   #79
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[quote=DCRallyDave;36439476]Sneak peek spy photos of Roberto's RX7. quote]

is that ron's car, he offered for sale couple years back? airplanes = Ron, he used to buzz us at oakland acres.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:19 AM   #80
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is that ron's car, he offered for sale couple years back? airplanes = Ron, he used to buzz us at oakland acres.
Yep, and that is Ron V. himself in one of the photos giving tips and advise before letting his baby go. Says he wants to come crew at the first stage rally it does again so perhaps you'll see him again.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:58 AM   #81
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I just moved to Delaware and am thinking of going out to this event a few times this year. How many people usually show up? I have an RS and a WRX that would be in AWD prepared. My first time would probably be the April events. What is the drivers school like?
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:01 AM   #82
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Haven't raced with you guys since you switched from Orange to Summit Point but since we are posting pictures here's one of my car from back in the day....I got a video somewhere too....I'll try to find it.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:20 PM   #83
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Yeah! Thats Ron's car.

It called my attention because it was very well taken care of and it was street legal. Which meant that I can go to autocrosses or rallycrosses without trailering it.

Now the 1 million dollar question...
Will the car pass inspection with a roll cage and not the original seat belts? (it has a 6-point harness).

Or anybody knows somebody that would go easy on that? Everything else is perfect on the car.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:54 PM   #84
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"They" are your class competitors. If they don't protest and/or care, you can largely do what you want.

That being said, most of us follow the rules of the class.
clearly my use of tongue-in-cheek was lost on you...I was joking with KAT_Ayanami since he was (facetiously) worrying about having nobody else in his class. As to rules, I've autocrossed for 15 years following the arcane SCCA (and/or other clubs') rules, and have no intention of doing otherwise now
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:27 PM   #85
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It was better when DC region just used 6 car classes. No reason to seperate FWD from RWD if you ask me. Big brother at SCCA ruining rallyX w/ its trophy hunting influence.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:25 PM   #86
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I just moved to Delaware and am thinking of going out to this event a few times this year. How many people usually show up? I have an RS and a WRX that would be in AWD prepared. My first time would probably be the April events. What is the drivers school like?
Having run both an RS and a wrx, I'd say bring the RS. The turbos just take too long to spool out of the corners and the flat torque band of the RS is better for modulating throttle/wheel spin mid-corner, in my opinion.

Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn here but this is what I've noticed. The drivers school will depend on how many folks are actually doing the "school". Nothing super formal. First part is just a quick briefing on how everything works as far as management of the events, safety, etc. I've been to one where there were enough folks we broke into a couple groups, ran through small portions of a course a few times while experienced drivers watched and gave pointers, then latter half of the day just ran full course without the pressure of being timed, with experienced drivers riding along to give pointers and/or riding in others cars to learn. I've also been to one where only 1 or 2 guys wanted to do the school and in that case we all just ran full courses all day and did ride alongs to get/give pointers. I've found everybody to be super friendly, laid back, and helpful. If you want help or pointers just ask and you'll get it. If you want to learn on your own, that's cool too. You should come out, it's too much fun not to. Also, you should know that the Philly region SCCA ran a couple rally-x events out at the Monster Mile last year, but I'm not sure if they've put together a schedule for this year yet.

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edit: we typically had around 25-35 drivers at each event last year (I believe...Jard can give you the real stats).
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Yeah! Thats Ron's car.

It called my attention because it was very well taken care of and it was street legal. Which meant that I can go to autocrosses or rallycrosses without trailering it.
did ron still have his stunt airplane parked in the hanger? He used to do triple inverted super barrel rolls, connected with delta V death drops. For real, stunt flying and think about a rush. And he's a good mechanic.


The turbos just take too long to spool out of the corners
mine spools damn quick, with max torque at 3k rpm.
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Was the plane in the photo and a very unfinished WWI project hanging in the rafters.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:04 PM   #89
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clearly my use of tongue-in-cheek was lost on you...I was joking with KAT_Ayanami since he was (facetiously) worrying about having nobody else in his class. As to rules, I've autocrossed for 15 years following the arcane SCCA (and/or other clubs') rules, and have no intention of doing otherwise now

You and shawn should put ballast on the cars and run on prepared... (about 500 lbs or so on the front bumper!!) or if we can contact the BMW guys ask them for 2 of them to Modified. Since there is a Modified RWD now.

The more the merrier
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clearly my use of tongue-in-cheek was lost on you...I was joking with KAT_Ayanami since he was (facetiously) worrying about having nobody else in his class. As to rules, I've autocrossed for 15 years following the arcane SCCA (and/or other clubs') rules, and have no intention of doing otherwise now
er, yeah... stuff like that doesn't convey very well on the interwebs. i'm going to go back to lurking and not over-explaining stupid stuff...
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but since we are posting pictures here's one of my car from back in the day....
Since we are posting pictures, reminds me of one I codrove back in the day.



Maybe its because same color, wheels and same angle in the photos.

Anyone else remember Mike Torio showing up w/ whatever rental car they had available?

Still have the car? and come to SummitPoint anyways.

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Old 02-22-2012, 09:35 PM   #92
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er, yeah... stuff like that doesn't convey very well on the interwebs. i'm going to go back to lurking and not over-explaining stupid stuff...
lol.....I need to make better use of smilies to convey sarcasm

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You and shawn should put ballast on the cars and run on prepared... (about 500 lbs or so on the front bumper!!) or if we can contact the BMW guys ask them for 2 of them to Modified. Since there is a Modified RWD now.

The more the merrier
Maybe I should just go find some old ratty carpet and put it back in the car and run prepared......500lbs! wtf. That would be a heluva penalty on a 2100lb car with no power. Only weight I evern plan to add to the front of this car begins with the letters "LS".....or probably not, but I can dream, can't I?

There will be 2 more new guys there co-driving an e30 (a thrid e30), but I think they're running stock RWD. But I doubt they care, they'd probably run whatever class people want them to run, they said they're just doing it for fun this season until they can build the car (they just bought it like 2 weeks ago).
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Having run both an RS and a wrx, I'd say bring the RS. The turbos just take too long to spool out of the corners...
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mine spools damn quick, with max torque at 3k rpm.
I think you're both right.

I remember at my first event with my '02 WRX I felt that the turbo lag was very noticeable and when it finally did kick in I was way high in the RPMs and the sudden surge of HP frequently put me out of control.
When I bought an AP and ran a stage 2 map the turbo lag was no longer an issue but the WRX was still too much HP for me as a newbie.
Then I bought the Impreza L with less than 100HP I had a lot more fun and hit a lot less cones.
I think it is possible to have too much HP in RX especially since the course is designed to have tight turns and limit speed in some areas.

and 'cmon Mark, your car is far from a stock '03 WRX now. Didn't you just put a hybrid motor in?
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:40 PM   #94
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Since we are posting pictures, reminds me of one I codrove back in the day.



Maybe its because same color, wheels and same angle in the photos.

Anyone else remember Mike Torio showing up w/ whatever rental car they had available?

Still have the car? and come to SummitPoint anyways.
AWESOME! No I don't have that car anymore. I traded it to a guy in Ohio for a Rabbit (non-running) with a SCCA logbook. Never did get that thing running. I grew up about 30 min from Summit Point and plan on coming to at least one RallyCross there this year in my REX. Since it got moved from Orange though and I live in Richmond it's almost easier for me to Rally with the Tar Heel Sports Car Club in NC....either way, I'm sure I'll make it to Summit Point sometime this year since I got a place to crash in Lovettsville VA anyway.
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Maybe I should just go find some old ratty carpet and put it back in the car and run prepared......500lbs! wtf. That would be a heluva penalty on a 2100lb car with no power. Only weight I evern plan to add to the front of this car begins with the letters "LS".....or probably not, but I can dream, can't I?

There will be 2 more new guys there co-driving an e30 (a thrid e30), but I think they're running stock RWD. But I doubt they care, they'd probably run whatever class people want them to run, they said they're just doing it for fun this season until they can build the car (they just bought it like 2 weeks ago).
Now you're making me want to break out one of the beater iXes to run a BMW in M4 It'd be heavy by your RWD guys standards....but they like to rotate nicely...
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edit: we typically had around 25-35 drivers at each event last year (I believe...Jard can give you the real stats).
Averaged 37.x for the season, and that was amazing given the amount of rescheduling we had to do.

I think we had 48 at one of the events!
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:17 AM   #97
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Having run both an RS and a wrx, I'd say bring the RS. The turbos just take too long to spool out of the corners and the flat torque band of the RS is better for modulating throttle/wheel spin mid-corner, in my opinion.

Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn here but this is what I've noticed. The drivers school will depend on how many folks are actually doing the "school". Nothing super formal. First part is just a quick briefing on how everything works as far as management of the events, safety, etc. I've been to one where there were enough folks we broke into a couple groups, ran through small portions of a course a few times while experienced drivers watched and gave pointers, then latter half of the day just ran full course without the pressure of being timed, with experienced drivers riding along to give pointers and/or riding in others cars to learn. I've also been to one where only 1 or 2 guys wanted to do the school and in that case we all just ran full courses all day and did ride alongs to get/give pointers. I've found everybody to be super friendly, laid back, and helpful. If you want help or pointers just ask and you'll get it. If you want to learn on your own, that's cool too. You should come out, it's too much fun not to. Also, you should know that the Philly region SCCA ran a couple rally-x events out at the Monster Mile last year, but I'm not sure if they've put together a schedule for this year yet.

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edit: we typically had around 25-35 drivers at each event last year (I believe...Jard can give you the real stats).

Thanks for the info. I will probably end up taking the RS. My goal is to improve my driving. Less power will probably mean less distraction and more focus on being neat and carrying speed. The drivers school sounds good either way you described it as you get lots of seat time in both situations. You can't teach experience so seat time is key in my mind. I'm looking forward to getting out there.
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Now you're making me want to break out one of the beater iXes to run a BMW in M4 It'd be heavy by your RWD guys standards....but they like to rotate nicely...
Got me thinking. Anyone have a Lancia Stratos I can codrive?
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The iX has the same Fergie t-case/diff set up. Ah viscous fluid :-) It also helps that I have 3 or 4 spare 4.10 fronts laying around, along with both a viscous and a mechanical 4.10 rear.
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Got me thinking. Anyone have a Lancia Stratos I can codrive?
You don't have one??
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