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Old 03-02-2012, 08:30 AM   #1
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Default Kinugawa vs Blouch turbo

Blouch is proven to be great and we all know that with the exceptions of lemons.

Kinugawa is basically an eBay turbo if I'm not mistaken, that is fairly trusted.

These turbos are pretty much in the same price range.
Are they exact in reliability and performance? (I've read of boost issues)
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:18 AM   #2
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The quality and reliability of the Blouch is far better. Talk to your tuner. You get what you pay for.

Yes, there are folks running the Kinugawa. The ones I know do not last very long and have quality issues. Its made in China vs. made in USA.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:11 AM   #3
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Blouch is proven to be great and we all know that with the exceptions of lemons.

Kinugawa is basically an eBay turbo if I'm not mistaken, that is fairly trusted.

These turbos are pretty much in the same price range.
Are they exact in reliability and performance? (I've read of boost issues)
I haven't compaired prices but if they are in the same ball park id go blouch all day!

If you ever decided to upgrade, Blouch would be easier to sell and you would probably get more than if you were trying to sell Kinugawa.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:18 AM   #4
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For what it's worth, Blouch has a great turn-around, customer service, reliability. I have no complaints about them other than they aren't in my town so that I may have them local, hahahahaha.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:37 PM   #5
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i did not know ebay had a turbo?
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:53 PM   #6
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The quality and reliability of the Blouch is far better. Talk to your tuner. You get what you pay for.

Yes, there are folks running the Kinugawa. The ones I know do not last very long and have quality issues. Its made in China vs. made in USA.
I think you mean assembled in the USA.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:42 PM   #7
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Blouch is proven to be great and we all know that

Kinugawa is basically an eBay turbo

These turbos are pretty much in the same price range.
and you are still asking this question?
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #8
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:31 PM   #9
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They're not made in China, they're made in Taiwan. Not even close in price.
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Old 03-03-2012, 02:03 PM   #10
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Not even close in price.
This. The eBay turbo goes for ~$800. The Blouch 20g XT is nearly double at $1400 not including shipping. Definitely a whole different ball park in price.
Not to mention the Blouch turbo has a 6mo. warranty, and will likely outlast two eBay turbos if installed and maintained properly. Also made in the USA and customer service and support is top notch. Good luck talking to the guys at Kinugawa (unless you speak Taiwanese or whatever their native language is called).
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Old 03-03-2012, 03:49 PM   #11
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This. The eBay turbo goes for ~$800. The Blouch 20g XT is nearly double at $1400 not including shipping. Definitely a whole different ball park in price.
Not to mention the Blouch turbo has a 6mo. warranty, and will likely outlast two eBay turbos if installed and maintained properly. Also made in the USA and customer service and support is top notch. Good luck talking to the guys at Kinugawa (unless you speak Taiwanese or whatever their native language is called).
I did not have issues communicating with Kinugawa. They've helped me well in the past. No issues with their turbos neither.
I'm not surprise to see Blouch's turbo costing that much, seeing how it has a ball bearing catridge and billet wheel, while the Kinugawa turbos are your typical journal bearing, standard wheels.
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Old 03-03-2012, 03:56 PM   #12
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I did not have issues communicating with Kinugawa. They've helped me well in the past. No issues with their turbos neither.
I'm not surprise to see Blouch's turbo costing that much, seeing how it has a ball bearing catridge and billet wheel, while the Kinugawa turbos are your typical journal bearing, standard wheels.
The 20g XT is Journal bearing with a billet wheel. The XTR is the Ball bearing billet wheel setup.

Meh. You get what you pay for.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:25 PM   #13
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The 20g XT is Journal bearing with a billet wheel. The XTR is the Ball bearing billet wheel setup.

Meh. You get what you pay for.
Guess I'll mark up prices on everything else just so customers can feel better knowing they paid an ass ton
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:27 PM   #14
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Guess I'll mark up prices on everything else just so customers can feel better knowing they paid an ass ton
Lol touche
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:48 PM   #15
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Guess I'll mark up prices on everything else just so customers can feel better knowing they paid an ass ton
Don't most do this already?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:45 PM   #16
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I've never bought a whole kinugawa turbo but I've bought several chra's, wheels and covers. Never had a problem, brother in law has run a kinugawa 20g in his lgt for 30k now. I'll continue to buy them for certain applications. The difference is that I've actually run their stuff, don't know about the rest of you. Except fuji k of course...
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Old 03-04-2012, 04:30 AM   #17
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I was going by these prices:
Kinugawa 16g - $770
Blouch Small 16g - $795

I guess the Kinugawa is probably the EVO3 16g?

Also, I have now noticed that the 16g, 18g, and 20g are all the same price. Okay they are definitely cheaper :/
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:23 PM   #18
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They are pretty much the same turbos. I have used (kando,kinugawa, etc) rebuild kits with no issues and built complete turbos with their parts. YOu really begin to save money when you buy the bigger turbos and hybrids.
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Old 03-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #19
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I hadn't heard of these until I stumbled across this thread, and now I'm intrigued..

I basically had my heart set on a Blouch 16g-xt for my upcoming build.. Rebuilt motor, new pistons/rings/bearings/etc.. Was gonna shoot for 280-300whp on my 02 wrx.

Now I'm looking and seeing this Kinugawa 18g Twin Scroll... and its cheaper than the Blouch I originally wanted..

How do you guys think the bigger Kinugawa would compare to 16g-xt? The Kinugawa has a 10cm housing, plus its a larger turbo, would the lag be that much different? Reading some reviews now and people seem pretty dang happy with their twin scrolls..
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I hadn't heard of these until I stumbled across this thread, and now I'm intrigued..

I basically had my heart set on a Blouch 16g-xt for my upcoming build.. Rebuilt motor, new pistons/rings/bearings/etc.. Was gonna shoot for 280-300whp on my 02 wrx.

Now I'm looking and seeing this Kinugawa 18g Twin Scroll... and its cheaper than the Blouch I originally wanted..

How do you guys think the bigger Kinugawa would compare to 16g-xt? The Kinugawa has a 10cm housing, plus its a larger turbo, would the lag be that much different? Reading some reviews now and people seem pretty dang happy with their twin scrolls..
Yeah but you would need to get a twin scroll header.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:51 PM   #21
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Yeah but you would need to get a twin scroll header.
Not just the header, you'd need the up pipe as well.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:02 PM   #22
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So basically this is all you'd need to convert to a twin scroll? Obviously I know you'd need a tune/etc..

http://www.crispmods.com/index.php?p...emart&Itemid=2

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And a downpipe...

Guess what, kinugawa (authentic boosting) sells those too. Header, up and down.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:30 PM   #24
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I found the downpipe on their website, where can I find the twin scroll headers? I sent them an email too, so I guess this will be a good chance to see what kind of customer service they have

I apologize for taking over this thread, but I suppose it IS relevant to the OP..
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NP Ethereal.

So I will go with the small 16G Blouch. Since it is virtually the same price as the Kinugawa 16G.
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