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Old 03-31-2012, 08:03 PM   #76
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brother you guys actually have it made compared to us, we get the same $hit for 10k more.
When I bought my US 2007 STI Ltd in Calif., I had to pay an extra 6% duty for a Japanese car to bring it into Canada and register it in BC. This is still the case. Otherwise, I think the cost is just a bit more for the equiv. equipment. I think I saved about $4,000 over buying an STI in Vancouver- however, there were no Ltd for sale in Canada.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:07 AM   #77
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Here are some pictures of the 2013 Legacy and Outback. Those Outback wheels have an unusual design.

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I do really like the redesign of both, but no Leggy wagon, no care! Had to stick with a new Impreza instead of what i actually wanted to buy!
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:51 AM   #78
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It's too bad they waited so long to address the roly poly suspension. My wife probably would have bought a 2011 H6 Outback, but it was just too boring to drive.

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Compared to what in that category?

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My dad has a 2010 3.6R, I feel your pain, we took it on a road trip to the Grand Canyon last year and all I could think on those roads was "Where's my Rex?!!"

What's so frustrating about it is the rest of the world never got the rolly-polly suspension, or the idiotic roof bars and they always had the seat memory, rear A/C ducts and H.I.D headlights(but I also think it should have them also).

Explain to me why the Forester Limited gets H.I.D.s while the Outback does not? Who was the marketing genius product planner that came up with that?
Cost cost cost. People were/are willing to pay more for the Touring Forester for the extras it has and they were able to justify HIDs on that one; and it still comes in less than an Outback(if just barely). Start putting all that on the Outback and the price would have put it out of competition. Let's see how much the price increases for the Limiteds now that there are memory seats, and the rear A/C vents.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:02 PM   #79
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When I bought my US 2007 STI Ltd in Calif., I had to pay an extra 6% duty for a Japanese car to bring it into Canada and register it in BC. This is still the case. Otherwise, I think the cost is just a bit more for the equiv. equipment. I think I saved about $4,000 over buying an STI in Vancouver- however, there were no Ltd for sale in Canada.
you also pay less taxes then us, quebec has the highest tax rate in canada with the lowest income, go figure.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:03 PM   #80
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Cost cost cost. People were/are willing to pay more for the Touring Forester for the extras it has and they were able to justify HIDs on that one; and it still comes in less than an Outback(if just barely). Start putting all that on the Outback and the price would have put it out of competition. Let's see how much the price increases for the Limiteds now that there are memory seats, and the rear A/C vents.
Out of competition with what? My dad sold his Audi Allroad to buy the Outback, he wouldn't have blinked an eye at the extra $$. The whole point is the Outback is Subaru's most premium vehicle, yet the more lowly Forester is available with higher specs in some areas. A luxury buyer considering a Subaru is going to want both the buttery smooth H6 drivetrain and the HID headlights.

Nothing wrong with lots of luxury options on a car with a pedestrian brand. Have you seen the spec sheet of a Focus Titanium?
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Out of competition with what? My dad sold his Audi Allroad to buy the Outback, he wouldn't have blinked an eye at the extra $$. The whole point is the Outback is Subaru's most premium vehicle, yet the more lowly Forester is available with higher specs in some areas. A luxury buyer considering a Subaru is going to want both the buttery smooth H6 drivetrain and the HID headlights.

Nothing wrong with lots of luxury options on a car with a pedestrian brand. Have you seen the spec sheet of a Focus Titanium?
Well, the only cars I consider "competition" with the Outback are the Crosstour, the Venza, and the Edge. Most everything else is more expensive. I agree that there are plenty of people willing to pay, but how many is plenty? I think there are a lot of things Subaru should make as an option or accessory. I would sure love for someone at SOA(or anyone on here who understands it) to explain to me why some things couldn't be custom ordered from the factory, like interior/exterior color combinations. If someone was willing to wait, and even pay, why not allow it?
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:30 PM   #82
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Well, the only cars I consider "competition" with the Outback are the Crosstour, the Venza, and the Edge. Most everything else is more expensive. I agree that there are plenty of people willing to pay, but how many is plenty? I think there are a lot of things Subaru should make as an option or accessory. I would sure love for someone at SOA(or anyone on here who understands it) to explain to me why some things couldn't be custom ordered from the factory, like interior/exterior color combinations. If someone was willing to wait, and even pay, why not allow it?
Well if you are talking about actual custom stuff, it is because just offering that type of stuff is expensive. There is overhead associated with every available option and part. Once sold, Subuaru still need to support it and warranty it, so if someone tears their custom pink leather or cracks a whale bone shift knob, Subaru can't just order another one like a normal item. This would lead to high replacement part cost and longer waits for customers. Eventually options will add the the bottom line of every car, not just the cars that have them.

A better question might be "Why can't I get a white Subaru with a black interior". That really just comes down to manufacturing, and when costs need to go down, so does flexibility
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:40 PM   #85
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Well if you are talking about actual custom stuff, it is because just offering that type of stuff is expensive. There is overhead associated with every available option and part. Once sold, Subuaru still need to support it and warranty it, so if someone tears their custom pink leather or cracks a whale bone shift knob, Subaru can't just order another one like a normal item. This would lead to high replacement part cost and longer waits for customers. Eventually options will add the the bottom line of every car, not just the cars that have them.

A better question might be "Why can't I get a white Subaru with a black interior". That really just comes down to manufacturing, and when costs need to go down, so does flexibility

Not really custom. I have an accessory BOOK from Japan when I was there on 08. I ask to bring some, just some of what was in that book. They were/are all OEM things. I did talk to one of the guys responsible for our accessories at the Impreza training and some of it was explained to me. Again, it comes down to cost for the most part.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:40 PM   #86
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... So to get a power bump in the Legacy or Outback, you now have to purchase a Limited trim.
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You can still get a base 3.6R.
I missed that. Thanks, Boosted Up. That's good to know. I'm glad it's not Limited-only.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:58 PM   #88
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gone are the free bumps and potential in power, saw a GT making insane tq and power with e85, i wanted a legacy, now no more , would def get a spec B one day.. that was the best subie this side of NA in anything non sti form
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Well, the only cars I consider "competition" with the Outback are the Crosstour, the Venza, and the Edge. Most everything else is more expensive. ...
I always considered the Venza more expensive. Looking closer, it's almost 25% more expensive, in general. Edge and Crosstour aren't really in the ballpark, to me. Edge AWD's starting price 40% higher than Outback and Crosstour AWD's almost 50%! (These are 2012 numbers.)

Outback AWD MSRP range $23,295 - $31,695
Venza AWD MSRP range $28,875 - $37,915
Edge AWD MSRP range $32,930 - $38,960
Crosstour AWD MSRP range $34,440 - $36,540

Take AWD out of the equation, and Outback's still considerably cheaper, even with standard AWD... something like 20% cheaper than the cheapest Venza, IIRC.

If you can afford Venza, Edge or Crosstour, I can see cross-shopping Outback to save some serious money. Same reason Subaru appeals to some Euro-brand owners.
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^^^ You have to use transaction prices for a fair comparison. Edge gets discounted heavily and Outback not so much (at least in my region). Crosstour had a lot of incentives last time I checked since it is not selling well. I have been cross shopping these vehicles for a while. I made the mistake of showing Subaru AWD (comparison) video to my wife. She doesn't want to buy any other brand AWD/4WD vehicle. So we will be probably getting an Outback. I am leery of getting a 2013 because of the new engine and second generation CVT. Might wait for 2014MY so that all the kinks will be worked out by then.
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^^^ You have to use transaction prices for a fair comparison. Edge gets discounted heavily and Outback not so much (at least in my region). Crosstour had a lot of incentives last time I checked since it is not selling well. I have been cross shopping these vehicles for a while. I made the mistake of showing Subaru AWD (comparison) video to my wife. She doesn't want to buy any other brand AWD/4WD vehicle. So we will be probably getting an Outback. I am leery of getting a 2013 because of the new engine and second generation CVT. Might wait for 2014MY so that all the kinks will be worked out by then.
The engine is already being used in the Forester for 2 years and the Impreza already has the "2nd generation" Subaru CVT.

Also if you wait to 2014MY, in 2015 an ALL NEW Outback will likely be coming up for 2015MY...
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^^^ But this will be the first implementation of FB25 with second gen CVT. I certainly won't buy 2015MY because it will be first year for ALL NEW Outback. I tend to keep my cars for 10~15 years, so I stay away from first year redesigned cars.
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^^^ But this will be the first implementation of FB25 with second gen CVT. I certainly won't buy 2015MY because it will be first year for ALL NEW Outback. I tend to keep my cars for 10~15 years, so I stay away from first year redesigned cars.
2016MY then

Fuji Heavy Industries is on of the pioneers in CVT tech and they license a lot of tech out to other companies. I wouldn't be too concerned about the first CVT connected to a FB25 blowing up or anything.
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^^^ But this will be the first implementation of FB25 with second gen CVT. I certainly won't buy 2015MY because it will be first year for ALL NEW Outback. I tend to keep my cars for 10~15 years, so I stay away from first year redesigned cars.
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2016MY then

Fuji Heavy Industries is on of the pioneers in CVT tech and they license a lot of tech out to other companies. I wouldn't be too concerned about the first CVT connected to a FB25 blowing up or anything.
And nothing came of the first year of the Lineartronic CVT!
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^^^ You have to use transaction prices for a fair comparison. Edge gets discounted heavily and Outback not so much (at least in my region). Crosstour had a lot of incentives last time I checked since it is not selling well. I have been cross shopping these vehicles for a while. I made the mistake of showing Subaru AWD (comparison) video to my wife. She doesn't want to buy any other brand AWD/4WD vehicle. So we will be probably getting an Outback. I am leery of getting a 2013 because of the new engine and second generation CVT. Might wait for 2014MY so that all the kinks will be worked out by then.
I looked up the KBB "Fair Purchase Price" for the lowest trim AWD/Auto available for each (except Outback... I chose Premium rather than Base). Outback $24.7k, Venza $27.9k, Edge $31.8k, Crosstour $32.3k.

The 2013 will probably be fine, but I suppose the 2014 would be an even safer bet. Sometimes toward the end of runs, though, I think the cost-cutters find ways to shave expenses by cutting corners. But then again, Subaru usually keeps adding value by upping the feature content, too, such as via a Special Edition package. *shrug* Lots of things to weigh.
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^^^ You have to use transaction prices for a fair comparison. Edge gets discounted heavily and Outback not so much (at least in my region). Crosstour had a lot of incentives last time I checked since it is not selling well. I have been cross shopping these vehicles for a while. I made the mistake of showing Subaru AWD (comparison) video to my wife. She doesn't want to buy any other brand AWD/4WD vehicle. So we will be probably getting an Outback. I am leery of getting a 2013 because of the new engine and second generation CVT. Might wait for 2014MY so that all the kinks will be worked out by then.

that one was a bit misleading, the front was not an open diff or else no way that car would have been able to go up the ramp with one wheel only traction,
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back to the topic, is this what your talking about? i guess to each his own but that still looks huge and ugly to me, maybe your right the previous version is more feminine , but so is every other exotic car, and why do we give the female attribute to our cars?
to me a curvy sexy women is always more appealing then some power lifting butch which the new legacy reminds me of btw
Yes that one, but in world rally blue with STi limited lip and wheels.

If you don't see one in person, you just don't understand. I also prefered the old one... up until seeing the new wagons in person. Saw so many in Japan.

They are much more aggressive and muscular. Maybe feminine is too generous to describe the previous legacy. It was not feminine like a Porsche or Ferrari, but rather weak, low presence.

Kind of like the New WRX/STi vs GD. Makes mines look so outdated, when parked next to a 2011/2012
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AT-A-GLANCE 2013 Subaru Outback

2.5i 2.5i Premium 2.5i Limited 3.6R 3.6R Limited

• Fourth-generation of The World’s First Sport Utility Wagon that launched the crossover category in 1995.
• Two performance levels and three trim lines.

New for 2013
• Redesigned front styling with new grille, headlights and bumper cover.
• More powerful, more efficient DOHC 2.5-liter 4-cyl. Boxer engine with broader torque delivery for improved low- and mid-range response.
• Up to 30 mpg.
• Available EyeSight safety system with: Pre-Collision Braking; system capable of pedestrian detection; Lane Departure and Sway Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control.
• Second-generation Lineartronic continuously variable transmission (std. 2.5i Limited, available other 2.5i models) is lighter, more responsive and quieter than previous version.
• Chassis enhancements ensure smoother, quieter ride with improved agility.
• Standard audio system for 2.5i and 3.6R models adds Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity and audio streaming, iPod control capability and USB port.
• Bluetooth steering wheel control switches std. base 2.5i model.
• Audio/navigation system offered in Limited trim lines features 7-in. LCD touch screen, SirusXM NavTraffic service (with a 4-month free trial subscription) voice activated controls, rear vision camera and harman/kardon premium audio.
• Limited models add electro-luminescent gauges and a 3.5-in. LCD color display, as well as a center console rear seat A/C duct outlet.
• Revised retractable roof rail crossbars can accommodate longer accessory attachments.
• Brake Override safety system.
• Special Appearance Package available for Limited models includes 2-position memory for 10-way power driver’s seat, keyless access & start and exclusive exterior and interior trim.

Key Facts
• Innovative standard roof rails with crossbars that swing into position only when needed, to help reduce wind noise. They now feature an additional 9.8-in. of bar spread adjustment.
• Both engines specify regular-grade gasoline.
• Heavy-duty raised 4-wheel independent suspension and 8.7-in. ground clearance enable off-pavement driving.
• Three types of Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive featured across Outback line: 2.5i models with 6-speed manual transmission use a viscous-coupling locking center differential to distribute the power 50:50 front to rear. Outback 2.5i models with continuously variable transmission (CVT) use an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch to actively control power distribution in response to driving conditions. Outback 3.6R models use Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) system, which normally sends more power to the rear wheels to enhance handling agility and continuously adjusts power distribution in response to driving and road conditions.

Basic Specifications
Body 5-passenger wagon
Wheelbase 107.9 in.
Length 189.0 in.
Height 65.7 in. (with roof rails)
Width 71.7 in.

Engine:
Outback 2.5i models DOHC H4, 2.5-liter
Horsepower 173 hp
Torque 174 lb-ft
Transmission 6-speed manual or CVT

Outback 3.6R models DOHC H6, 3.6-liter
Horsepower 256 hp
Torque 247 lb-ft
Transmission 5-speed automatic

Key Standard Features

Outback 2.5i
• 6-speed manual transmission
• 16-in. wheels with 215/70R16 tires
• 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS, Brake Assist and Brake Override
• 60/40 split fold-down rear seat with armrest and recline feature
• 3-spoke steering wheel with integral audio, Bluetooth and cruise control switches
• AM/FM stereo with single-disc in-dash CD player, Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity and audio streaming, iPod control capability, USB port and aux. input jack
• Air conditioning
• Combination digital clock and trip computer, including outside temperature display
• Cruise control
• Electronic parking brake with Hill Holder function.
• Front seat side-impact airbags and side curtain airbags
• Height-adjustable driver’s seat
• Overhead console with holder for sunglasses
• Power door locks
• Power side mirrors, manual folding
• Power windows with driver’s auto-down
• Rear window wiper/washer
• Remote keyless entry system with integrated ignition key
• Roof rails with retractable crossbars
• Tilt/telescoping steering wheel
• Tire pressure monitoring system
• Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC)

2.5i Premium adds:
• Lineartronic CVT (continuously variable transmission)
• 10-way power driver’s seat
• 17-in. alloy wheels with 225/60R17 tires
• 6-speaker audio system
• Cargo area cover
• Driver’s window with auto up/down
• Fog lights
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel & shift knob
• Privacy rear glass

2.5i Limited adds over 2.5i Premium:
• 4-way power passenger seat
• All-Weather Package (heated front seats, windshield wiper de-icer, heated side mirrors)
• Dual-zone automatic climate control system
• Center console rear A/C outlet
• Leather-trimmed upholstery
• harman/kardon display-type audio system with HD Radio, XM Satellite Radio (4-month free trial subscription included) and 9 speakers, including subwoofer
• Electro-luminescent instrument cluster with 3.5-in. LCD display

3.6R adds to 2.5i:
• 256-hp 6-cyl. Boxer engine
• 5-speed automatic transmission with steering wheel paddle shifters
• 17-in. alloy wheels with 225/60R17 tires
• Body-color side mirrors
• Fog lights
• Cargo area cover
• Rear privacy glass

3.6R Limited adds to 3.6 R Premium:
• 10-way power driver’s seat
• All-Weather Package
• Driver’s auto up/down window
• 4-way power passenger seat
• Dual-zone automatic climate control
• harman/kardon display-type audio system
• Instrument cluster with LCD display
• Leather upholstery
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel & shift knob
• Electro-luminescent gauge cluster
• Rear AC duct in center console

Optional for Premium trim lines:
• harman/kardon display-type audio system
• Power Moonroof Package with Rear Vision Camera and auto-dimming mirror with display plus Homelink
• All-Weather Package (2.5i Premium; standard for 3.6R Premium)

Optional for Limited trim lines:
• EyeSight driver-assist system
• Power Moonroof Package (see Premium)
• Special Appearance Package with Keyless Access & Start, 2-position memory driver’s seat, exterior turn-signal mirrors, Saddle Brown perforated leather, Outback logo floormats, and unique exterior trim accents
• Voice-activated touch-screen GPS navigation system with harman/kardon premium audio, XM Satelllite Radio and XM Navtraffic (4-month free trial subscription included for both), rear vision camera, iPod/USB input, Bluetooth hands-free phone capability and streaming audio, auto-dimming rear-view mirror with HomeLink










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AT-A-GLANCE 2013 Subaru Legacy

2.5i 2.5i Premium 2.5i Limited
3.6R 3.6 Limited


Legacy 2.5i

Performance
2.5-liter DOHC horizontally opposed (Boxer) 4-cylinder engine with Active Valve Control System: 173 hp, 174 lb.-ft. torque
6-speed manual transmission
Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive (Continuous AWD version with 6-speed manual transmission; see specification sheet for details)
16 x 6.5-inch steel wheels with full wheel covers
P205/60 R16 all-season tires
Electronic parking brake with Hill Holder system
Power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes with Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD), anti-lock brakes (ABS), Brake Assist and Brake Override system
Quick-ratio power-assist steering

Safety & Security
3-point seatbelts for all five seat positions (height-adjustable on front seats with
electrically triggered pretensioners and force limiters)
4-channel / 4-sensor Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Brake Assist and Brake Override safety systems
High-strength front seat frames to help protect against whiplash injuries
Child safety rear door locks
Daytime Running Lights (DRL)
Dual-stage deployment driver and passenger front air bags (SRS)
Front seat side impact air bags (SRS)
Side curtain air bags (SRS)
Headrests for all rear seating positions (height-adjustable for outboard positions)
Internal trunk release with self-illuminating handle
Rear seat LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) uniform child restraint anchorage system
Remote keyless entry and security system with engine immobilizer, including remote trunk release
Ring-Shaped Frame Reinforcement body structure with front and rear crumple zones
Safety brake pedal system
Tire Pressure Monitoring System
Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) stability and traction control

Design & Functional/Exterior

Body-color aerodynamic side ground effects
Body-color door handles
4-beam multi-reflector halogen headlights with auto on/off ambient light sensor
Gas damper support struts for hood and trunk
In-glass antenna

Comfort & Convenience
12-volt center console power outlet and 12-volt front console power outlet
24-hour Roadside Assistance for warranty period
3-spoke steering wheel with integral audio, Bluetooth and cruise control switches
60/40 split fold-down rear seatback
Air conditioning with electronic control panel
Air filtration system
AM/FM/single CD stereo system, auxiliary audio input jack, radio data system (RDS), 4 speakers, in-glass audio antenna, Bluetooth hands-free phone capability and audio streaming, iPod control capability and USB port
Transmission gear indicator (for optional CVT, shows manual mode with shift steps)
Carpeted floor mats
Chrome interior door handles
Cloth upholstery
Cruise control
Cupholders dual front in console; one in each front and rear door trim panel, and dual in rear seat fold-down armrest
Dash storage bin
Digital odometer and trip odometer
Dome light with off-delay
Driver and front passenger illuminated visor vanity mirrors with lids
Front door courtesy lights
Front passenger seatback pocket
Headlights auto-on/off with ambient light sensor
Height-adjustable drivers seat
Illuminated ignition switch ring with off-delay
Integrated ignition key with remote keyless entry system
Map lights, dual
Multi-information display with readouts for clock, outside temperature, fuel economy, passenger airbag
Overhead console with holder for sunglasses
Power door locks
Power side mirrors, manual folding
Power windows with drivers auto-down and illuminated switches
Rear seat armrest
Remote fuel filler door release
Remote trunk release with cancel feature
Silver etched accent trim
Sun visor extenders
Tilt and telescopic steering column
Trunk grocery bag hooks
Trunk light
Variable intermittent windshield wipers

Optional:
Lineartronic CVT (continuously variable transmission) with 6-speed manual mode and paddle shifters; this transmission teamed with Active Torque Split version of Symmetrical AWD

Legacy 2.5i Premium adds or substitutes over Legacy 2.5i:
10-way power drivers seat, including power lumbar
17-in. alloy wheels with 215/50 R17 all-season tires
6-speakers audio system
Body-color side mirrors
Stainless steel exhaust tip
Dash storage bin with lid
Drivers window auto up/down function
Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shifter knob
Overhead console adds ambient light
Windshield gradient shade band

Optional:
All-Weather Package with 2-stage heated front seats, heated side mirrors and windshield wiper de-icer
Power Moonroof
Lineartronic CVT with manual mode and steering wheel paddle shifters
Display-type AM/FM stereo with HD Radio and single-disc CD player with harman/kardon 440 watt amplifier, 9 harman/kardon speakers (includes subwoofer), 4.3-in. LCD display screen, HD Radio, Bluetooth audio streaming and hands-free phone connectivity, iPod control capability, XM Satellite Radio (4-month free trial subscription), USB port, 3.5mm auxiliary input jack and roof-mounted antenna.

Legacy 2.5i Limited adds or substitutes over Legacy 2.5i Premium:
Lineartronic CVT (standard) with manual mode and steering wheel paddle shifters
All-Weather Package with 2-stage heated front seats, heated side mirrors and windshield wiper de-icer
4-way power passenger seat
Center console rear A/C outlet
Display-type AM/FM stereo with HD Radio (see 2.5i Premium optional system)
Dual-zone automatic climate control
Fog lights
Electro-luminescent instrument cluster with 3.5-in. LCD color display
Perforated leather-trimmed upholstery
Silver painted shifter with black inlay
Dark woodgrain pattern interior trim

Optional:
EyeSight driver-assist system with: Pre-Collision Braking; system capable of pedestrian detection; Lane Departure and Sway Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control.
Power moonroof
Navigation system with 7-in. touch screen display, voice activated controls and navigation, rear vision camera, XM satellite radio and XM NavTraffic (4-month free trial subscription included for both); also features the 440-watt, 9-speaker harman/kardon premium audio system with Bluetooth hands-free capability and audio streaming capability, AM/FM single-disc CD player, USB aux. input port, iPod control capability and AHA infotainment. Navigation maps upgradeable via SD card slot. Package also includes auto-dimming rear-view mirror with Homelink garage-door transceiver

Legacy 3.6R adds over Legacy 2.5i:
3.6-liter DOHC horizontally opposed (Boxer) 6-cyl. engine; 256 hp and 247 lb.-ft torque
5-speed automatic transmission, with steering wheel paddle shifters and rev-matching downshift blipping control; this transmission is teamed with Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) version of Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive
Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) version of Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive
17-in. alloy wheels with 225/50 R17 all-season tires
Body-color side mirrors
Dash storage bin with lid
Drivers window auto up/down function
Dual stainless exhaust tips
Illuminated power window switches (all doors)
Larger front (12.4-in.) and rear (11.4-in.) brake rotors; ventilated rear brake rotors
Overhead console adds ambient light
Silver painted shifter with black inlay
Windshield gradient shade band

Legacy 3.6R Limited adds or substitutes over Legacy 3.6R Premium:
All-Weather Package with 2-stage heated front seats, heated side mirrors and windshield wiper de-icer
10-way power drivers seat, including power lumbar
6-speaker audio system
Instrument panel storage bin with lid
Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
4-way power passenger seat
Aluminum door sill plate inserts
Display-type AM/FM stereo with HD Radio (see 2.5i Premium optional system)
Dual-zone automatic climate control
Perforated leather-trimmed upholstery

Optional:
EyeSight driver-assist system with: Pre-Collision Braking; system capable of pedestrian detection; Lane Departure and Sway Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control.
Power moonroof
Touch-screen navigation system (see 2.5i Limited optional system)

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