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Old 04-02-2012, 11:51 AM   #451
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XV is easier to say, easier to type, and doesn't get mistaken "crosstrek" for "crosstek"

Incidentally auto-correct messes with both of those, but doesn't touch XV.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:22 PM   #452
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Official name in the US is Subaru XV Crosstrek. As we start to launch the car you'll notice "Crosstrek" being used more.
I can't wait for all of the "Subaru Crosstour" and "Honda Crosstrek" confusion.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:39 PM   #453
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I can't wait for all of the "Subaru Crosstour" and "Honda Crosstrek" confusion.

Been happening at my dealership since they announced the name. I prefer Crosstrek over XV.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #454
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It's a lifted Impreza.. it really doesn't need another name. If it had some different sheetmetal, maybe...
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #455
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XV is easier to say, easier to type, and doesn't get mistaken "crosstrek" for "crosstek"

Incidentally auto-correct messes with both of those, but doesn't touch XV.
Then you'd be a B9 advocate then...
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:41 PM   #456
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Lmao! This is funny. Im pretty sure subaru was going over this thread and thinking
,"why the f$&# isnt anyone calling it a crosstrek"
I tend to favor words over generic numbets and letter combination (see skyline over g35) but I dont know XV came off better. Its probably because I dont know what a Crosstek is..it just seems like a brands way of just saying crossover but making it specific to them.

But if its Crosstek then its Crosstek.
"XV" has momentum now because of the global communications, but when we get selling it, it'll be "XV Crosstrek" or "Crosstrek"
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:03 PM   #457
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Wonder how many people will call it the "15" ?
Hopefully this name won't get as confusing as the prius V =5= v.
Which uses "V" for two different models.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:13 PM   #458
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yeah, i think it should be an impreza xv or impreza crosstrek. but not using impreza will make people think its an all new car. i was so excited when this first came about but now its not looking so great anymore. might just end buying the wife another outback. curious to see how smooth this will be
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:58 PM   #459
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Wonder how many people will call it the "15" ?
Hopefully this name won't get as confusing as the prius V =5= v.
Which uses "V" for two different models.
We wondered that too.. but not so many so far.
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #460
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Wonder how many people will call it the "15" ?
Crap, I never thought about that one actually!
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:18 PM   #461
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XV is easier to say, easier to type, and doesn't get mistaken "crosstrek" for "crosstek"
So long as they don't mistake it with "Crossdress"
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:30 PM   #462
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yeah, i think it should be an impreza xv or impreza crosstrek. but not using impreza will make people think its an all new car. i was so excited when this first came about but now its not looking so great anymore. might just end buying the wife another outback. curious to see how smooth this will be
They did it with the 2nd gen Outback. The Impreza and Impreza Outback Sport were similar enough to do that. This, I believe, simplifies things. I am having to differentiate Impreza 5 door and Impreza Sport enough as it is now. Crosstrek will make that one somewhat easier. SOA is probably doing the same type separation with it.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:57 PM   #463
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Wonder how many people will call it the "15" ?
Hopefully this name won't get as confusing as the prius V =5= v.
Which uses "V" for two different models.
I doubt that will be an issue. People rarely see roman numerals in letters after 5. If they made a Rocky 15 then it would be a different story...


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yeah, i think it should be an impreza xv or impreza crosstrek. but not using impreza will make people think its an all new car. i was so excited when this first came about but now its not looking so great anymore. might just end buying the wife another outback. curious to see how smooth this will be
I disagree with this. Crossovers are a different market and with Subaru trying to market the Crosstrek as a big contender in this market they needed to separate it from the Impreza.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:39 PM   #464
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The current Outback used to be 'Legacy Outback'.

This, to me, is no different.

What worries me for sales in the US is the apparent lack of power for its size/weight. I mean, I get it. We may end up getting one, or an Outback, which comes down to power and acelleration on the road.

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Old 04-02-2012, 08:48 PM   #465
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Odd to me as a prospective buyer and not a make shift Subaru shareholder see things exactly the opposite. The current Outback and he Crosstrek are as different as day and night when it comes to what I want and the lack of power has no relevance as in it wont really limit anything I would want to do with it.
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The lack of power is a good thing. These are curb hoppers, not offroaders or roadsters. The people shopping for cute-utes need to get to the supermarket, pick up young kids from soccer and get to work. Nothing more, nothing less. They want low cost, good mpg and high seating position (I don't know why).

Think of the competition, none have powerful engines.

This car is completely different from the Outback and Forester (well...just slightly smaller than the Forester). The XV is for the car buyer that wants to be taller. Not an SUV buyer.

I do think that Subaru is making another "Subaru B9 Tribeca" mistake by making such a long and unnecessary name. Similar to the old "Legacy Outback" and "Accord Crosstour" (Crosstour only in 2012).

"Subaru Crosstrek" would have been perfect.
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LOL! I would agree with this almost completely if it wasn't for the condescending tone. Can you cut some people some slack here. jeesh can you not pigeon hole everyone. If you want to know why I like it because it looks adventurous something I can use to toss mine and my girls mountain bikes in or perhaps to tow a jet ski that I was looking into getting in the near future, or to take to a ski lodge but at the same time something that I can grow into for future kids. I don't know where the supermarket comment came from besides to tag it as the common internet term as a "grocery getter" but I can toss groceries in any of my cars including my Impreza.

If you think it's barbie doll cute thats you, I personally think it's aggressive and adventurous looking. When I see it I see a car that will perfectly suit a young 30yr old dad from a brand that I grew to love and want to stay loyal to.
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LOL! I would agree with this almost completely if it wasn't for the condescending tone. Can you cut some people some slack here. jeesh can you not pigeon hole everyone. If you want to know why I like it because it looks adventurous something I can use to toss mine and my girls mountain bikes in or perhaps to tow a jet ski that I was looking into getting in the near future, or to take to a ski lodge but at the same time something that I can grow into for future kids. I don't know where the supermarket comment came from besides to tag it as the common internet term as a "grocery getter" but I can toss groceries in any of my cars including my Impreza.

If you think it's barbie doll cute thats you, I personally think it's aggressive and adventurous looking. When I see it I see a car that will perfectly suit a young 30yr old dad from a brand that I grew to love and want to stay loyal to.
I meant no disrespect. Just trying to differentiate the lifted car niche vs the SUV (Forester/Outback) and the people who the car is targeting.

I think the XV is a great looking car and more aggressive than the regular Impreza. I also think it looks better than the Rogue and other competitors.
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They want low cost, good mpg and high seating position (I don't know why)..
So they can see over the other overly high vehicles.

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"Subaru Crosstrek" would have been perfect.
Totally agree.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:12 PM   #470
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I assume the XV is meant to answer the Nissan Juke market. To the XV's credit, probably not as zippy as the Juke, but at least it should run on regular gas, instead of premium. On paper it should beat the Juke on MPG.


I was pondering waiting for the XV for my wife's car, or getting one eventually for mtn biking and hiking, for the clearance, eventually replacing my Element. That's why I have been following the news.

We went with the '12 imp instead. I agree with concerns/observations that the already bogged down engine is going to be in over its head with the extra weight and drag. Our observation is that the 2012 Imp is already struggling as regards gas mileage, especially in the city... the XV's touted domain, although its darn fun to drive, and all the "zip" we need.

I am wondering if the XV has enough to make it stand out of the crowd. Distinctive styling (always open to personal taste), but likely gutless AND mediocre gas mileage and the greater height is likely to wash out the nice handling of the "lowered XV"...i.e. Imp (confirmed on at least one driving review)

On the other hand, maybe that 2.0i engine will suddenly take a BIG jump up in gas mileage, at break-in at 1000miles....errr. 3500 miles errrr 5000 miles errrr.... 10,000 miles.....That does seem to be a moving target as a few people hit each previous target, and don't notice that big difference?

IF the XV could actually meet its EPA rating within reasonable conditions, at less than 50,000 miles, THEN they might have a hot seller for people that want to sit higher in the city, or for getting to those hikes and mtn bike rides down those gravelled, rocky, potholed roads. I personally do not want to go OFF road, but a lot of "roads" I use are too bumpy for my wife's 2012 imp, without going REALLY slow.
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Crosstrek's only rated 2 MPG better than Outback overall. It either needs to outperform Outback or be more economical than this, IMHO. Right now style is Crosstrek's key feature (unless you live in a place with such tight roads that Outback is difficult to maneuver, and there aren't many places like that in the US). I do like this car a ton, I'd just like it to be a bit "more" in some area. My early excitement has waned a bit after seeing it won't reach the 34-35 hwy mpg rating I was anticipating compared to Impreza's 36.

Of course, price is always a factor, too. If they start these around $19 or 20k, Crosstrek could be the Subaru for people that can't afford an Outback. Otherwise, just another way in which it's not different enough from Outback, IMHO.
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My early excitement has waned a bit after seeing it won't reach the 34-35 hwy mpg rating I was anticipating compared to Impreza's 36.
You and me both in that respect. I was hoping since it is basically the same car just raised it would get the same MPG. 33MP is still pretty damn good though but the loss of 3MPG adds up with my commutes. However, having a larger fuel tank should hide this fact a little bit as I would still visit the gas station as often as the Impreza does I suppose.

Don't get me wrong though, I still want this car!
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Originally they were saying it would get the same MPG as the Impreza because it was using the same engine/trans. Anyone think they may surprise us with the 2.5 and that is why we are now seeing a dip in MPG compared to the Impreza? If that’s the case I’m excited all over again!
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The lack of power is a good thing. These are curb hoppers, not offroaders or roadsters. The people shopping for cute-utes need to get to the supermarket, pick up young kids from soccer and get to work. Nothing more, nothing less. They want low cost, good mpg and high seating position (I don't know why).

Think of the competition, none have powerful engines.
XV has 148 hp. from the 2.0L.

Nissan Juke has 188hp from 1.6L Turbo and pretty much the same gas mileage.

VW Tiguan, less MPG, 200hp.

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Originally they were saying it would get the same MPG as the Impreza because it was using the same engine/trans. Anyone think they may surprise us with the 2.5 and that is why we are now seeing a dip in MPG compared to the Impreza? If thatís the case Iím excited all over again!
Don't get excited.
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