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Old 04-08-2012, 07:16 PM   #1
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Question ej207 + Rotated 16g/18g?

Currently iv'e dropped in a new motor, another 207 this time with,

- V7 EJ207+AVCS
- JE Forged Pistons
- Eagle Forged Rods
- ACL Race Bearings
- NGK 7's
- V7 STI tmic
- Apexi Power Intake

- Mishimoto Radiator
- Mishimoto Trans cooler+Fan
- Mishimoto Oil Catch Can
- Deatschwerks 750cc injectors (not installed) currently STI Pinks
- GMS 3 Port bcs (ditched the gfb 2 port)
- Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump

- 3" Straight though exhaust + Genome Exhaust
- Hi-stall TQ converter
- Modified Valvebody
- Runs only on 98ron

What's planned? (This is where I need some input ;D)
FMIC + Custom fabbed piping, Possibly flipped/custom fab manifold(not too keen, think I loove the red sti manifold, )

EVO III 16G or 18G^8cm pnp and go Rotated!, for a larger intake and spool
+ Tial 44 ewg and custom fab piping.

(Was also looking at a GT2876 which I could pick up for half the price of the 16/18g from a reputable local source) i think this would be laggier than a 18g.

Power Goal around 320-340whp
Budget $5,000
Not my Daily Driver -BTW

So does this sound like i'm on the right track? Any clues on the spool?

And I have a spare 4eat and a spare 5mt ra-r 4.44 gearset which I'm working on to be built with ppg set. (for later on)

*Previous power setup was 269whp/359.4Nm on the vf30, but then ran a retune with a base map done by Clark Turner, but never dynoed.
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:55 PM   #2
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I thought only 30r's and bigger can be rotated. Never heard of a 16/18g rotated setup. I think you should recheck that information.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:23 PM   #3
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I thought only 30r's and bigger can be rotated. Never heard of a 16/18g rotated setup. I think you should recheck that information.
You can rotate any turbo you want if you have a welder and the time.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:42 PM   #4
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You can rotate any turbo you want if you have a welder and the time.
Yep, iv'e got a local custom fabricator who actually does alot of work for all the group-n cars etc and for a excellent price, around the same for what you would pay for a reasonable up/down pipe excl intake. Why wouldn't you go rotated?
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:08 PM   #5
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Why would you want to rotate a stock location turbo?

Buy the GT turbo.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:03 AM   #6
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With a built bottom end it would be a shame to put anything less than a billet 3071 on it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:21 AM   #7
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Rotating any turbo allows for a straighter smoother inlet. It will be a minimal benefit, if any, on a turbo that small.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:54 AM   #8
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If you've sunk that much money into the motor already, why waste it with a small turbo?

In my opinion, the Evo3 16g and 18g would be a waste.

Go with a rotated 2876 or 3071 and some meth.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:56 AM   #9
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Get an 18G stock location
Or run a TD0520G on pump and have a decent smile factor.
Rotated is nice for sure but at the power levels you are targeting I would save my money and effort in tabbing the kit.

If you do go rotated get a GT30
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:19 PM   #10
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Gt30r, dont think is worth to pay that money to custom make a 18g rotated.
i would say rotated gt30r or stock location 18g!
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:56 PM   #11
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Quote:
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Why would you want to rotate a stock location turbo?

Buy the GT turbo.
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With a built bottom end it would be a shame to put anything less than a billet 3071 on it.
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Rotating any turbo allows for a straighter smoother inlet. It will be a minimal benefit, if any, on a turbo that small.
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If you've sunk that much money into the motor already, why waste it with a small turbo?

In my opinion, the Evo3 16g and 18g would be a waste.

Go with a rotated 2876 or 3071 and some meth.
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Get an 18G stock location
Or run a TD0520G on pump and have a decent smile factor.
Rotated is nice for sure but at the power levels you are targeting I would save my money and effort in tabbing the kit.

If you do go rotated get a GT30
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Gt30r, dont think is worth to pay that money to custom make a 18g rotated.
i would say rotated gt30r or stock location 18g!
on the money.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:20 PM   #12
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I've got pretty much an identical setup. I have a td05h-18g, ported.

My guess is you are looking to mainly drag race ?? ( torque converter ? )

That setup will be beautifull around a track. Not so much in a straight line. Once it gets up there it's amazing.

Go bigger snail.

Btw, 18g's are stock location.

My butt dyno says 340 whp, on alot of rpm's. It makes for a nice, smooth, linear powerband.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:56 AM   #13
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Thanks for all the input so far, I like the thought of rotated anything, ;D makes sence to, especially if it can be done at a easily affordable price. Iv'e also been looking at the
"Turbonetics GT-K 350"
ball bearing
54mm Inducer
76mm Exducer
0.63a/r


slightly larger than the 2871 ( i think the gtk series just looks evily cool, i think thats why i'm drawn to it hahaha)

and can have a custom flange created for free. I think the 2876 will be a poor turbo on any application looking at dynos, even the mitsi kids hate it.

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