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Old 04-12-2012, 03:24 PM   #5376
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:08 PM   #5377
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With the eventual arrival of our first child and seeing all this stroller talk it makes me wonder what everybody drives. I've been looking for a car that will be able to hold a stroller, baby gear, and (occasionally) luggage and our two dogs: an 80LB doberman and a 20LB boston terrier.

Looked at the usual suspects: Highlander, Pilot, CR-V, Outback. What do real parents use and like/hate?

I have 2 girls, 5 and just turned 2 this week. I also have to 2 dogs (one at almost 100lb and one at 40lb). I started off with a Forester and we managed just fine. Took many weekend trips with all of them. You learn what you really need and what you don't. Of course getting a roof rack and cargo thing could make a huge difference. We didn't, but should have.

Got rid of the Forester last month and got a new impreza 2.0i sport. Everyone still fits fine with all the same gear and dogs. Actually the port has a substantial amount of rear seat space for the kids that the Forester didn't. I could actually fit a grown adult back there with them in their car seats and they would be comfortable and have plenty of room.

If you want more than 2 kids you need something bigger (mini van, tahoe), but personally I prefer the cargo/trunk area with a gate for the dogs as they shouldn't ever rid in the cabin with the kids. Can you imagine the result of a 100 lb dog as a projectile during an accident? I also hate how little actual trunk space there is in mini vans, seems like a pain in the ass to throw a stroller in there and have to use the rear seats for groceries.


I love all the pictures, that's awesome! Should I go throw the kids, dogs, and jogging stroller in the car together with a bunch of other crap and take pictures too?
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:18 PM   #5378
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We have this one and it is a space hog!
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:19 PM   #5379
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Not the whole book...but we use the 1-2-3 method in our house for the past year or so and it is highly effective with our kids now (5.5 and almost 4). Just requires the right amount of patience and upfront work, but once the kids get it they get it. Like a lot of the reviews say, if I start counting, I almost never make it past 2 now and they always stop the bad behavior and listen. On the rare occasion that we do make it to 3 and put one of the kids in a TO, we don't do 5 minutes anymore. That is a LONG time to think a young kid is going to stay in one place and be disciplined. Just the idea of being 'removed' from where ever or what ever is going on is enough for them to get it...30 seconds to a minute now at the most, unless they are carrying on. Then it's down to their eye level, talk about what happened and hug it out...
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:23 PM   #5380
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Love it! I combine 1-2-3 magic and supernanny's discipline techniques (like saying a keyword, being stern but not yelling, being on the child's level) with all the kiddos in my daycare.

As far as strollers, I'm a HUGE Baby Jogger fan. I have a Baby Jogger City Mini Double and a Baby Jogger City Micro double and can fit both of them folded in the small trunk of my impreza sedan. Great handling. As far as I'm concerned if you're just walking and not running there's not really any need for a big jogging stroller. There are other strollers that are great for not so level sidewalks and such that aren't ginormous like the bob. I had a double bob and HATED it.

After age 2.5 all my daycare kiddos walk the zoo (the whole woodland park zoo) rather than ride in the stroller and have no problems. Sure it's always easier to keep a child contained in a stroller, but allowing personal independence and giving children rules to follow and allowing them to make the correct choice is huge in personal development.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:27 PM   #5381
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:45 PM   #5382
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I started off with a Forester and we managed just fine. Took many weekend trips with all of them. You learn what you really need and what you don't. Of course getting a roof rack and cargo thing could make a huge difference. We didn't, but should have.
We bought our SG Forester back when all our friends were driving Impreza wagons, we knew kidlets were in the plans..

Now we have a 6 month old baby boy and a 2 year old chocolate lab (65lbs), He rides center in his car seat, she rides buckled into the cargo ties behind the rear seat. We have a Skybox on top for carrying the stroller and gear when we travel.

Everything fits and there's room to spare (we're planning another in a bit). But you do need to think about what you are taking and where it will fit best.

Plans are afoot to replace my daily 98 impreza wagon with a 09 Tacoma TRD with a cap and crate for the dog, pulling a travel trailer for summer holidays.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:55 PM   #5383
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:57 PM   #5384
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:43 PM   #5385
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I *hope* you aren't counting to three then.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:02 PM   #5386
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You learn what you really need and what you don't. Of course getting a roof rack and cargo thing could make a huge difference. We didn't, but should have.
I think that is the biggest problem now. When we go on 3-day trips now our Legacy is filled to capacity, so adding a baby/gear makes me think we need to step up in size class. OTOH, we drove an Outback the other day and really liked it.

Adding a roof box or a hitch platform is pretty much already expected, like vicali said. Time to take the dogs to the dealer to see what they think about it!
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:01 AM   #5387
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I also hate how little actual trunk space there is in mini vans, seems like a pain in the ass to throw a stroller in there and have to use the rear seats for groceries.


That looks like all sorts of space. It is just oriented vertically versus horizontally. It isn't like you should regularly stack to the ceiling in a wagon anyway.

I saw a Daewoo wagon going down the road with the rear wiper running at at full speed on a sunny day yesterday because they had stuff stacked up to the ceiling.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:35 AM   #5388
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I also hate how little actual trunk space there is in mini vans, seems like a pain in the ass to throw a stroller in there and have to use the rear seats for groceries.

I know what you mean. Our olds is the "extended" so there's a little more room behind the rear seat, than some others but our jeep stroller folded up take up 2/3 of the space back there so there's a little bit of extra room still. We only have the 2 kids though so it's not a problem to fold the rear seat forward if we need to.

Lets face it, these urban city strollers just take up a good amount of space. some fold up a little tighter, but not that much. I guess it really just depends on what you want to bring along is all. If we ever need any more space, we'll just put the sky box on.

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Old 04-14-2012, 12:42 PM   #5389
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We are having my daughters birthday party at chuck e cheese. My son, who is two said, 'im afraid of chuck e. cheese. He's bad! He's a big, fat mouse with sharp teeth. Can i shoot him?'
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:56 AM   #5390
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I don't believe it, crawling helmets for tots? Let the kids be kids dammit!!

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Given the lengths so-called helicopter parents will go to protect their children, one would think an actual helicopter blade were hurtling toward their sheltered offspring. I suspect the stress caused by parents’ fears might harm kids more than the occasional stitch-worthy gash, or bump on the head.
Case in point: crawling helmets.
Seems some parents are so concerned about the rate at which their babies are ambling about the living room that they are purchasing crawling helmets for their high velocity tots. (No, these aren't helmets for head-shaping or other medical needs; they're just to protect babies from hitting their heads while doing normal baby activities.) If your baby can’t face the rigors of crawling, how will your toddler learn to walk? Will your Kindergartener ever ride a bike? I guess you can forget about contact sports, driving, and frat parties.
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The sales pitch for the crawling helmet includes mention of hardwood and tile floors, implying that responsible parents protect defenseless children from these horrors. I am not one of those responsible parents. I left my newborn daughter alone on the sofa cushion with her 2-year-old brother standing guard. Neither wore helmets. Twenty seconds later I’m watching my toddler son pull his baby sister by the feet onto the wood floor, where her little head took quite a blow.
That’s it, I thought, I’ve killed my baby.
And yet, she was okay. No blood, no broken anything, no brain damage. This kind of incident might prompt some parents to buy a crawler helmet. To me it just proves they aren’t necessary. Seriously, twelve years later, my daughter scores well on standardized tests. We’re fine.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:20 AM   #5391
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It is sad when everything in life has to be "safe". All I know is that when I survived childhood nearly a half century ago, it was far SAFER than it is now. We didn't wear helmets when we rode bicycles (or even motorcycles), we ate what we wanted, we played with toys you could swallow or put an eye out with. Today, however, the decisions seem to bear more dire consequences for a "poor decision". Drugs, STDs, pocket rocket motorcycles, turbo tuner cars are all pretty unforgiving of mistakes.

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Old 04-15-2012, 10:26 AM   #5392
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^^ that just looks fun. But yeah parents are a bit extreme these days. From not vaccinating to not the over protectiveness it's ridiculous. I'm all about letting my daughter explore, fall down, it's part of being a kid to get some bumps and bruises, how else will they learn?
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:09 PM   #5393
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Lily had her first accident yesterday. She manage to flip herself backwards out of the baby carrier that my wife was wearing. She did a flip mid-air and landed flat on her front. Luckily the grass was soft. She has a pretty good scrape on the side of her face, I'm glad she didn't land on her head.

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Old 04-15-2012, 11:16 PM   #5394
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glad she's okay. kids are robust, flexible and bouncy. As much as it hurts to see them scraped up, cut, or bruised it's all part of being a kid, she'll be alright
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:44 PM   #5395
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Bought the Delta Solution crib today. Overall, it seems pretty solid, but my god, some of the fit and finish details are very lacking. They need to tighten their manufacturing tolerances.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:40 AM   #5396
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Morning all. I have a question here. For the past month, Emma (1.4 yrs), every night has to be held until she falls asleep. When you put her down and for some reason wakes up the crying orchestra begins with no intermission.

Last night was a rough one, as she did not stop crying probably from 7:30pm to 11pm. My wife and I decided to see if maybe after 20min of crying it would pass, so she dashed to the TV and I put my headphones on and did a few races online. 30min later crying was still going at 10:30pm.

The normal routine is at around 7:30-8:00pm she goes to bed with a bottle of warm milk. She used to be good to the point where she will tell you she did not want the bottle anymore, plop her in the crib and fall asleep. Now, unfortunately, she has to be held until she falls into her deep sleep.

Any suggestions? The bottle of milk is only at night before going to sleep, and I believe this will be our next hurdle to change this habit.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:50 AM   #5397
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God Speed brother. All I can say is kids go in phases and sometimes you just have to ride them out. Kate slept great for the first year or so then we had to always sit by her crib and sing or rub her back. She grew out of that phase for awhile. Now 4, she almost always has to have one of us lay with her in bed until she falls asleep (with usually leads to me falling asleep at 8:30).

Does Emma have a totem? A bear, blanket, ....?
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A penguin, a bear and her blanket.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:22 AM   #5399
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sorry to hear that, mate. our emma has been doing good. except sometimes she wakes up screaming because her can't find her soother.

you know what's going to happen to us now. right?
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How many naps if any is your daughter taking during the day? My boys used to take 2 naps during the day when they were less than 1 year old. As they got older, taking 2 naps would equate to not being tired when it came to bedtime. So, we would transition them to 1 nap per day and eventually to no naps at all. My 3.5 yo son doesn't take any naps anymore and usually falls asleep around 7-7:30. My 21 month old son takes 1 nap during the day and also usually falls asleep around 7 or so.
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