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Old 04-16-2012, 11:33 AM   #51
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xluben, Please tell me you sent the datalog, car specs, vd plot and dynoplot to Brad? He wants all the data he can get from cars that have actually been on a dynojet to get his math back in order. You'd be doing the community a great service!

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Old 04-16-2012, 11:45 AM   #52
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xluben, Please tell me you sent the datalog, car specs, vd plot and dynoplot to Brad? He wants all the data he can get from cars that have actually been on a dynojet to get his math back in order. You'd be doing the community a great service!

BTW: car is awesome all the way around!
Thanks. I have been working with Brad quite a bit. The logs for this tune read around 500WHP on the Virtual Dyno - Dynojet setting. We took a look at them and noticed an issue with how RomRaider collects data with "fast polling" turned on. The data rate is inconsistent and the RPM data actually goes up and down with time.

That is definitely not right, and causes the Virtual Dyno analysis to have some huge spikes. The smoothing takes care of the spikes so the plots look very normal, but it can skew the numbers. One of these days I need to do a log with fast polling turned off and see how it compares.

With the stock turbo and E85 I had the following results:

Virtual Dyno - Dynojet: 338WHP / 381WTQ
Dynojet at MAPerfoamce: 340WHP / 369WTQ
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:07 PM   #53
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i may do the same just for vd plots and see what happens. I have noticed the rpm fluctuations as well.... SO is it a RR issue? Brad didn't mention that the last time we talked (less than a week ago) so I assumed he was aware of the fluctuations and already had that squared away...
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:11 PM   #54
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i may do the same just for vd plots and see what happens. I have noticed the rpm fluctuations as well.... SO is it a RR issue? Brad didn't mention that the last time we talked (less than a week ago) so I assumed he was aware of the fluctuations and already had that squared away...
I think the RPM fluctuations are an ECU issue. Fast polling just makes it more obvious. Turning off fast polling should "hide" it a bit, and hopefully will help the analysis. I think it will kind of work like an extra level of smoothing. I think in one of his beta versions he had tried removing smoothing, and that didn't work at all with the RR fast polling logs, so he has left it in.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:39 PM   #55
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I'm just curious I though 20gs were 47lb/min turbos. How can this be making almost 500 to the wheels, in theory they should make around 470 bhp right.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:57 PM   #56
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They are like old rockford amps. Way underrated lol
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:06 PM   #57
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So is this legit, lol that's sick. Still skeptical but either way looks awesome.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:07 PM   #58
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It's witchcraft.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:18 PM   #59
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Don't forget the old Macs.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:42 PM   #60
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On MPS dyno I made 448 uncorrected on my 20gxt 10cm with 3" inlet
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:57 PM   #61
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Any trap speed
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:04 PM   #62
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hmmmm .......
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:48 AM   #63
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y'all have to get a ride in it to know. I am very impressed! So quiet yet hauls ass!
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:46 AM   #64
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No trap speed. Maybe someday.

Thanks Fuji! Is is nearly silent around town, but still makes good power!
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:18 PM   #65
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none for me either. second time i launched teh car i broke a axle. lol
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:20 PM   #66
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Wow. This must be a mad sleeper on the street, considering it has all that power with the stock catback. Plans for a new transmission?
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:28 PM   #67
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Wow. This must be a mad sleeper on the street, considering it has all that power with the stock catback. Plans for a new transmission?
It is really quiet around town. Doesn't draw any attention.

Just crossing my fingers on the tranny. Does that count as a plan?
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:15 AM   #68
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lust. I want a built block so bad. Your mods are exactly what I want in my car. No exhaust, mad sleeper with crazy power.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #69
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lust. I want a built block so bad. Your mods are exactly what I want in my car. No exhaust, mad sleeper with crazy power.
Thanks. It really is very quiet with the stock exhaust.
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huge power xluben congrats
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:09 PM   #71
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lust. I want a built block so bad. Your mods are exactly what I want in my car. No exhaust, mad sleeper with crazy power.
If ever there was a "sleeper" WRX, this one is it. With the stock wheels it was even more so.

I recently put the stock cb back on as well. It's great, I get fewer kiddies testing me.

Keep up the inspiring work Ben!
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:31 PM   #72
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Only ****!
I just got a 20gxt R installed on my 2010 sti and I'm nowhere near these numbers (350 whp and 370 torque with 750 injectors and OEM fuel pump). The engine looks like it's going to pop out
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:03 PM   #73
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Dude that thing is pretty effin sweeet.. I really wish they'd offer E85 down here in Southern Maryland because I'd be pretty much following right behind your footsteps with the mods.. congrats on the build and awesome/absurd numbers lol!
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:22 PM   #74
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huge power xluben congrats
Thanks! There are definitely some of your parts on there!

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If ever there was a "sleeper" WRX, this one is it. With the stock wheels it was even more so.

I recently put the stock cb back on as well. It's great, I get fewer kiddies testing me.

Keep up the inspiring work Ben!
Yeah, I really like the look of the stock wheels better, but I getting something wider and lighter was too hard to pass up.

My car has always looked kind of stealthy and I get literally no one trying to play with me on the street.

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Only ****!
I just got a 20gxt R installed on my 2010 sti and I'm nowhere near these numbers (350 whp and 370 torque with 750 injectors and OEM fuel pump). The engine looks like it's going to pop out
On pump gas I'm assuming? The number sound reasonable. Your fuel and/or fuel system is likely holding you back quite a bit.

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Dude that thing is pretty effin sweeet.. I really wish they'd offer E85 down here in Southern Maryland because I'd be pretty much following right behind your footsteps with the mods.. congrats on the build and awesome/absurd numbers lol!
Thanks! We are really lucky to have so much E85 available!
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:51 PM   #75
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Yes pump gas, I also have TGV delete, invidia el header and turbo XS exhaust. I didn't think that turbo was capable to bring that kind of numbers, I will get there too 1 day
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