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Old 04-25-2012, 08:50 PM   #1126
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Think Moreno did...

.Migs come out to Tarrytown tonight
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:01 PM   #1127
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Anyone order from htautos?

How long did it take?
SMY clustermaker is their US distributer, so you don't have to wait for it all from uk, he's in westchester, you can probably pick up from him.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:19 PM   #1128
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Ugh, I knew this but really, Subaru paint sucks... I washed my car today and found a handful of chips on my hood. The car is just over a year old Wtf?! W/e friend of mine works at a body shop, Prly going to respray my hood and get an overlay or something to protect it.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:27 PM   #1129
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unless you blend, respraying will look different i think.

my car was 1.5 years old and my paint was shot out. its beyond terrible.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:33 PM   #1130
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True. I'll see what's up as my front bumper is chipped too. I already had my qp done after my neighbor decided to drink and park her car into mine essentially... Lol it is what it is.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:43 PM   #1131
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**** drunks.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:17 PM   #1132
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Says the Russian.


Anyway, this had me laughing so hard...

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I also cut my springs a while back in my spec.B, car rides like a unicorn that has explosive diarrhea.
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For those of us who haven't gotten our unicorn physics degree, can you elaborate on the math of this?
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:49 PM   #1133
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:02 AM   #1134
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Figured out pricing on the V1. Looks like ebay and craigslist they sell from $250-$350 depending on what comes with them. And you can get a replacemrnt plug for $12 shipped. I'd do $225 for it with the window mount or visor mount and the power cord itself but not the plug. Let me know if anyone is interested, except Garrity who said defamatory stuff about me on Facebook.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:42 AM   #1135
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Did he really??


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Old 04-26-2012, 01:31 AM   #1136
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:57 AM   #1137
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Figured out pricing on the V1. Looks like ebay and craigslist they sell from $250-$350 depending on what comes with them. And you can get a replacemrnt plug for $12 shipped. I'd do $225 for it with the window mount or visor mount and the power cord itself but not the plug. Let me know if anyone is interested, except Garrity who said defamatory stuff about me on Facebook.
i said the facts, u can price it however u want, nothing against you, im just saying that they can be found cheaper on craigslist just like anything else
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:30 AM   #1138
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i said the facts, u can price it however u want, nothing against you, im just saying that they can be found cheaper on craigslist just like anything else
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:44 AM   #1139
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:46 AM   #1140
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:53 AM   #1141
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:15 AM   #1142
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Brilliant. Simply brilliant.



That SLOW meet was pretty comical. Good turnout... Should be interesting once the weather breaks.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:17 AM   #1143
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Figured out pricing on the V1. Looks like ebay and craigslist they sell from $250-$350 depending on what comes with them. And you can get a replacemrnt plug for $12 shipped. I'd do $225 for it with the window mount or visor mount and the power cord itself but not the plug. Let me know if anyone is interested, except Garrity who said defamatory stuff about me on Facebook.
You have a pm.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:51 AM   #1144
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Meet tonight... Where?
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:34 AM   #1145
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Think Moreno did...

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Probably going to spend my night doing some hw.

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SMY clustermaker is their US distributer, so you don't have to wait for it all from uk, he's in westchester, you can probably pick up from him.
Really? wish I knew this before. I already ordered sometime in March.

I sent him an email asking the status of the order yesterday. If it hasn't been processed I'll just cancel it.

I've ordered parts from Japan for my Honda that didn't take this long lol.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:32 AM   #1146
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Ok, so I've been researching proper suspension setups for my car and figured I'd post some info up here in case any of you are in the same boat or just want something to read. I'm going off of the Legacy platform but some information may be useful for you guys.

I decided on the Swift springs. They're JDM, just like the JDM Pink springs, and very good quality. They also give quite a bit of a drop compared to other springs, yet have a very good ride quality, especially when paired with the Bilsteins. Below is a chart on spring rates, the drop data may be off a bit. Also, I'm on Bilstein struts which has different tophats so a JDM spring is more appropriate for my vehicle.

http://subiwiki.com/wiki/index.php/B..._Modifications

Stock.......=..3.5 kgf/mm F.... 5.5 kgf/mm R
Pinks..........=..4 kgf/mm F....... 6 kgf/mm R
Tein S-tech.=..4.2 kgf/mm F.... 6.0 kgf/mm R
Swifts.........=.4.25 kfg/mm F... 6.6 kgf/mm R

If lowering any more than 1", the suspension geometry will be thrown off and car may have what's called "bump steer". An FRC (front roll center) or bump steer correction kit is recommended. I'll likely go with the Whiteline kit below since it includes both and should tighten things up quite a bit.

KCA313
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...sans_vehicle=1




Also, the Legacy stock suspension doesn't allow for rear camber adjustment so I'll likely get the Whiteline rear camber bolts. When lowering the car, it'll actually add too much negative camber, something around -2.5* so I can get bushings which will give me back 1* and set me to -1.5*. I'm still not sure if I should get the camber bolts, or camber bushing.

KCA399
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...sans_vehicle=1





A few guys get adjustable lateral links but this is my daily driver and won't be a track car, so I don't feel it's necessary to replace half of the suspension components. Not to mention, the Spec.B comes with lots of upgraded suspension over the standard GT models. This isn't really an option for me right now mainly due to the cost, and the car only has 27k miles on it so I don't want to start replacing things just yet. And like I said, it's a comfortable daily driver. I have no desire to turn it into a stiff, bouncy, track car.

KTA124
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...sans_vehicle=1




So, to sum it up, this is pretty much my checklist:

1. Tires (Good set of tires)
2. Swift Springs (on the Rev C Bilsteins)
3. Front WL KCA313
4. Rear WL KCA399
5. (If I wanted to do what some of the other, suspension gurus get, which they think I'd be better served over the long-haul with) rear WL KTA124 and the KCA307 Rear Toe Lock bolts.
3. Performance alignment -1.0 front/-1.5 rear camber, 0* toe, 0* cross-camber.
4. And eventually, front WL KCA334 or AVO S1X03E1GV002T rear LCA bushings - when the stock ones fail.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:47 PM   #1147
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^ nice research Nick. Looks like a good plan.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:50 PM   #1148
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Whiteline makes awesome stuff, I just did a bunch of control arm bushings from them on a friends 05. His car feels completely different now.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:00 PM   #1149
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Ok, so I've been researching proper suspension setups for my car and figured I'd post some info up here in case any of you are in the same boat or just want something to read. I'm going off of the Legacy platform but some information may be useful for you guys.

I decided on the Swift springs. They're JDM, just like the JDM Pink springs, and very good quality. They also give quite a bit of a drop compared to other springs, yet have a very good ride quality, especially when paired with the Bilsteins. Below is a chart on spring rates, the drop data may be off a bit. Also, I'm on Bilstein struts which has different tophats so a JDM spring is more appropriate for my vehicle.

http://subiwiki.com/wiki/index.php/B..._Modifications

Stock.......=..3.5 kgf/mm F.... 5.5 kgf/mm R
Pinks..........=..4 kgf/mm F....... 6 kgf/mm R
Tein S-tech.=..4.2 kgf/mm F.... 6.0 kgf/mm R
Swifts.........=.4.25 kfg/mm F... 6.6 kgf/mm R

If lowering any more than 1", the suspension geometry will be thrown off and car may have what's called "bump steer". An FRC (front roll center) or bump steer correction kit is recommended. I'll likely go with the Whiteline kit below since it includes both and should tighten things up quite a bit.

KCA313
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...sans_vehicle=1

Also, the Legacy stock suspension doesn't allow for rear camber adjustment so I'll likely get the Whiteline rear camber bolts. When lowering the car, it'll actually add too much negative camber, something around -2.5* so I can get bushings which will give me back 1* and set me to -1.5*. I'm still not sure if I should get the camber bolts, or camber bushing.

KCA399
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...sans_vehicle=1

A few guys get adjustable lateral links but this is my daily driver and won't be a track car, so I don't feel it's necessary to replace half of the suspension components. Not to mention, the Spec.B comes with lots of upgraded suspension over the standard GT models. This isn't really an option for me right now mainly due to the cost, and the car only has 27k miles on it so I don't want to start replacing things just yet. And like I said, it's a comfortable daily driver. I have no desire to turn it into a stiff, bouncy, track car.

KTA124
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...sans_vehicle=1

So, to sum it up, this is pretty much my checklist:

1. Tires (Good set of tires)
2. Swift Springs (on the Rev C Bilsteins)
3. Front WL KCA313
4. Rear WL KCA399
5. (If I wanted to do what some of the other, suspension gurus get, which they think I'd be better served over the long-haul with) rear WL KTA124 and the KCA307 Rear Toe Lock bolts.
3. Performance alignment -1.0 front/-1.5 rear camber, 0* toe, 0* cross-camber.
4. And eventually, front WL KCA334 or AVO S1X03E1GV002T rear LCA bushings - when the stock ones fail.
I've got a ton of whiteline bushings, but you might want to look into turn in concepts bushings instead. Similar quality but less expensive.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:01 PM   #1150
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I wish TiC would make a roll center adjustment kit like the whiteline. I need that for my Forester if I go low again this summer.
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