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Old 04-18-2012, 05:26 PM   #26
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Get some Simple Green, spray the underside of car, then gently rinse the oil away with a hose. This should get rid of 90% of the oil. The rest will burn off with a good 30 minutes of stop and go traffic.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:27 PM   #27
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Quoting the dealer report: "FOUND LINE FROM INTERCOOLER TO TURBO WAS MISSING BRASS WASHER -- REMOVED LINE AND INSTALL WASHER AND REINSTALL AND SECURED LINE FROM INTERCOOLER TO TURBO."
I may be just stupid but since when has there been an oil line from the turbo to the intercooler?
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:28 PM   #28
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Make the dealer clean up the oil on the bottom side of your car
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:29 PM   #29
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I may be just stupid but since when has there been an oil line from the turbo to the intercooler?
Especially one that carries oil...
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:30 PM   #30
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Get some Simple Green, spray the underside of car, then gently rinse the oil away with a hose. This should get rid of 90% of the oil. The rest will burn off with a good 30 minutes of stop and go traffic.
They indicated they cleaned off the undertray already, so just waiting for the last bit to burn off.

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I may be just stupid but since when has there been an oil line from the turbo to the intercooler?
Yeah, I was confused by that too. Presuming they meant an oil line between the turbo and intercooler...
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:31 PM   #31
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Maybe they meant between the oil cooler and the turbo. Don't our cars have factory oil coolers?
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:22 PM   #32
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There is only one pressurized oil line to the turbo and there are 2 locations where there are washers. On the top of the turbo, there is the oil feed line, there are 2 brass washers there on the banjo connection. Then again on the engine side where this line goes to, there is another connection. Not the flange flare connection, but the engine connection location.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:24 PM   #33
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There are two washers on the list, so my guess would be it's the former.

Should I be concerned about a lack of oil in the turbo without those washers?
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:21 PM   #34
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There are two washers on the list, so my guess would be it's the former.

Should I be concerned about a lack of oil in the turbo without those washers?
No, there oil was still flowing through the turbo. It was just seeping out from that spot.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:03 PM   #35
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Okay, thanks again all. Will recommence normal break-in procedures for the next 750 miles.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:16 AM   #36
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Wow... Subaru quality is really going down. This is insane.
Read my thread it gets worse...
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:36 AM   #37
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Got it inspected today -- still leaking oil, sadly. Back to the dealer when I can find time.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:08 AM   #38
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Got it inspected today -- still leaking oil, sadly. Back to the dealer when I can find time.
Wow - from the same spot?
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:42 AM   #39
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Not sure, just spotted some fresh oil down on the pan that's dribbled down from somewhere above.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:51 AM   #40
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wow that's ridiculous, on a brand new car.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:35 AM   #41
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Another update: they said it's just residual oil. They dumped dye in the filler and drove it around a bunch (40 miles!) and said there was no further leaking. I'm having a hard time believing there was THAT much residual oil on the pan after two weeks, but I guess we'll see. Not exactly happy having some mechanic hustle around in my car for 40 miles -- especially since I found a cigarette lighter that had fallen out of his pocket Thankfully there was no trace of smoking in my car.

They also curbed one of my wheels last time I was there and are saying it couldn't possibly have been their fault. So, that's great.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:12 AM   #42
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Line from intercooler to turbo?

I mean, things have changed in time, but the only lines in GDB were:

-The main hose that connects the compressor outlet to the intercooler inlet.

Why would there be a line that carries oil and has a brass washer between the intercooler and the turbo?

Edit: I saw that you guys looked into this on page 2.

Still, there were washers missing on the banjo bolt by the turbo? that would have a serious leak.

I think that things get torqued down at the factory, even the handwork is done with pneumatic torque wrenches, if a robot did not do this.

If the banjo bolt is torqued down without a lower washer, it may need to be replaced, the sealing surface may be affected.
I'm surprised that the dealer did not also replace the banjo bolt, but the description of the work is so wrong that.... no wonder..

...turbo to intercooler oil line... Maybe part of the smoke generator subsystem...
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:25 PM   #43
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Sorry to say I have no idea exactly where the problem lies. I'm familiar with other parts of the car but I've never done any turbo work so have zero insight into how that piece of the puzzle fits together...

I just hope that they didn't coat the thing in JBWeld to make the thing stop.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:52 AM   #44
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Another update: they said it's just residual oil. They dumped dye in the filler and drove it around a bunch (40 miles!) and said there was no further leaking. I'm having a hard time believing there was THAT much residual oil on the pan after two weeks, but I guess we'll see. Not exactly happy having some mechanic hustle around in my car for 40 miles -- especially since I found a cigarette lighter that had fallen out of his pocket Thankfully there was no trace of smoking in my car.

They also curbed one of my wheels last time I was there and are saying it couldn't possibly have been their fault. So, that's great.

This is why I recommended cleaning the oil off yourself once you got it back the first time. This way you KNOW if there is still leaking oil and can stand your ground. It sucks but every time I go to the dealer I have to tell the Tech what to do. I am only taking it in for free work/parts due to warranty. It's really a shame most of these guys are ****ing morons.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #45
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This is why I recommended cleaning the oil off yourself once you got it back the first time. This way you KNOW if there is still leaking oil and can stand your ground. It sucks but every time I go to the dealer I have to tell the Tech what to do. I am only taking it in for free work/parts due to warranty. It's really a shame most of these guys are ****ing morons.

Yup free warranty parts is what I did. Warranty work is like that as I'm sure you know Tripintaz. There's no money coming in so the sooner they can get you out and on your way the faster they can make real money.

There's so many factors about taking the car to a dealership. Are they local/close? Can you trust them with your car? Are they honest? Do they want to take a nice car for a joyride? Do they even know what they're doing?

That's why I got the service manual and do all of the work myself (with the help of extremely knowledgeable friends). Not to say my dealership is bad by any means, I just like knowing everything about my car. When you get your car back you don't know exactly what was done and where the car sits. (Something pretty minor but I had my tires rotated and my lugs were put back on @ twice the factory torque rating, Clearly tightened with an impact wrench!! Imagine if I had my engine built with the lack of care like that. ) When you do the work yourself you have total control.
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This is why I recommended cleaning the oil off yourself once you got it back the first time. This way you KNOW if there is still leaking oil and can stand your ground. It sucks but every time I go to the dealer I have to tell the Tech what to do. I am only taking it in for free work/parts due to warranty. It's really a shame most of these guys are ****ing morons.
They indicated that they had cleaned it themselves... and honestly I haven't had the time. But yes, should have in retrospect.

We'll see what happens next.
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the dealer is probably not used to working on FI cars. the majority of the stuff they work on are probably foresters, imprezas, etc.
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