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Old 05-01-2012, 11:01 AM   #11601
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wow congrats. i wish i could have justified buying one instead of the sport impreza. i already have a garage queen sports car.

speaking of my garage queen. when i was driving my modified honda s2000, i remembered someone wrote that the 2012 handles just as well as his STI and it takes corners flat very well. well if that is true, i am glad i never bought a STI. my s2000 handles millions times better than the impreza and i have stock suspension.
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:26 AM   #11602
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Quick question -

The Strake Kit states that it is only for the Sport, is there any reason this won't fit on the other models?
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:42 AM   #11603
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i remembered someone wrote that the 2012 handles just as well as his STI and it takes corners flat very well. well if that is true, i am glad i never bought a STI. my s2000 handles millions times better than the impreza and i have stock suspension.
Yeah this is just not true. Also keep in mind that the STI has 305 vs 265 hp, and a set of brembo brakes, and a 6 speed prodrive engineered transmission, and DCCD, and a list of other goodies. Is the STI necessary for everyone? No, but if you have special needs like racing, the STI is a benefit.

Not to be defensive or anything.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:16 PM   #11604
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The WRX was only a couple of bucks more a month than the Impreza, I could not pass it up, especially after the '12 Impreza 2.0i DGM car we test-drove ALSO had an airbag light on! Sigh.

Here it is--
love the look! wish the dark interior was available with the SWP. looks fab!
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #11605
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:20 PM   #11606
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way to kick some ass!!!!
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:21 PM   #11607
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:03 PM   #11608
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I loved Loved LOVED my WRX. Owned it for 8 trouble-free years.

When looking for a replacement I reexamined my needs for a car.
My income is dramatically less than when I bought the WRX.
I can only afford one car.
The kind of driving I do is:
  • 75% "grocery-getting" 10 miles or less,
  • 23% distance driving 100 miles or more,
  • 2% or less "fun driving", enthusiast, sport, mountain twisties, etc.
With the above in mind plus my reduced income plus rising gas prices I wanted a few things in my new car:
  • Automatic transmission.
    I am thoroughly over rowing through stop-and-go traffic. Considering that's 80-90% of my driving, this was pretty much mandatory.
    I do miss the control that the manual transmission affords.
    The floppy paddles are a fail primarily because the turn ratio of the steering wheel lock-to-lock puts the paddles out of reach mid-corner. Say, if I want to drop down to induce a little oversteer (opps! my bad: to dial out some understeer.)
  • Good gas mileage.
    This ruled out another WRX.
    The gas mileage has been merely "OK" and not anywhere near the EPA estimate except in very long range freeway driving in clear traffic.
  • Reliability and a solid build.
    This issue is still moot; keeping fingers crossed.
    My 2012 Impreza 2.0i is quiet and solid and the only issues I have are the air-bag fault and the crappy type-B stereo.
  • At least some semblance of sport handling.
    I am reasonably satisfied with this, especially considering the marketing and configuration of the 2.0i.
    I will probably add a stiffer rear anti-sway bar. It will probably be my only modification.
  • Not hideously ugly.
    This ruled out the Mazda 3 Sky-Activ with its horrible anime grin. íNo me gusta!
    I think the 2012 Impreza 2.0i hatch is good looking from most angles.

I do miss the power of the WRX.
I do not miss the horrible gas mileage.

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:17 PM   #11609
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James you kick ass.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:32 PM   #11610
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I loved Loved LOVED my WRX. Owned it for 8 trouble-free years.

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[*]Automatic transmission.
I am thoroughly over rowing through stop-and-go traffic. Considering that's 80-90% of my driving, this was pretty much mandatory.
I do miss the control that the manual transmission affords.
The floppy paddles are a fail primarily because the turn ratio of the steering wheel lock-to-lock puts the paddles out of reach mid-corner. Say, if I want to drop down to induce a little oversteer (opps! my bad: to dial out some understeer.)

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i'm starting to see that the paddle shifters are only going to be used when driving mountainous roads and i want better control on climbs and descents.

it's funny, beyond that obvious use of mountainous driving, i thought i'd probably use it occasionally just to return to the whole manual driving experience. i now don't think that will be the case.

i've been trying to use it occasionally to help with the engine break in period of having better control of varying RPMs, but confess that after doing the manual shifting for a while, i get tired of it and just let the CVT do its thing and i pop it back into D.

do other folks who have driven a manual feel the same way? i never got tired of driving stick all of these years, but there is something about using those paddle shifters that just doesn't fit my mindset or perhaps habit.

i wonder aloud if i would actually prefer "shifter" that is like some other cars on the actual automatic transmission "stalk." i still find myself resting my hand naturally there although it has nothing to do...

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Old 05-01-2012, 02:38 PM   #11611
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That EVOm guy sounds like a sore looser. Cryin' like a little B.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:38 PM   #11612
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i'm starting to see that the paddle shifters are only going to be used when driving mountainous roads and i want better control on climbs and descents.

it's funny, beyond that obvious use of mountainous driving, i thought i'd probably use it occasionally just to return to the whole manual driving experience. i now don't think that will be the case.

i've been trying to use it occasionally to help with the engine break in period of having better control of varying RPMs, but confess that after doing the manual shifting for a while, i get tired of it and just let the CVT do its thing and i pop it back into D.

do other folks who have driven a manual feel the same way? i never got tired of driving stick all of these years, but there is something about using those paddle shifters that just doesn't fit my mindset or perhaps habit.

i wonder aloud if i would actually prefer "shifter" that is like some other cars on the actual automatic transmission "stalk." i still find myself resting my hand naturally there although it has nothing to do...
I mostly pop mine into a higher gear to coast down hills for MPG, but the computer still fights me and drop back to higher revs for no reason.

For spirited driving, a little bit of manual interaction helps, but it's few and far between. I blipped down a few gears for passing when the CVT didn't really sense my urgency when stomping on the gas.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:42 PM   #11613
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Back to the Fumoto Valve thing. I have searched high and low to figure out what size I need. I own a 2012 impreza limited (sedan if that makes a difference). Keep coming back to the 105, however, I see others have posted that they bought the 108N and that is what I should get, however, I called the dealership and they said my drain plug was a 20 mm (although the guy did not sound convincing). Multiple websites list the 105, can't find anything that is VERY convincing. Anyone know for sure what it is? and thanks for all the info posted on here.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:29 PM   #11614
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Back to the Fumoto Valve thing. I have searched high and low to figure out what size I need. I own a 2012 impreza limited (sedan if that makes a difference). Keep coming back to the 105, however, I see others have posted that they bought the 108N and that is what I should get, however, I called the dealership and they said my drain plug was a 20 mm (although the guy did not sound convincing). Multiple websites list the 105, can't find anything that is VERY convincing. Anyone know for sure what it is? and thanks for all the info posted on here.
You could just get an OEM Subaru plug for like $2 and measure it... If the dealer is close to you, this would probably take you less time than trying to figure out if the 105 or the 108 Kwik Valve is "really" the right one.

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Old 05-01-2012, 04:41 PM   #11615
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Yeah, I looked at getting an OEM plug and with that I am even getting discrepancies. I got the 105 sitting at home I will try it this weekend and let you guys know. I was just hoping that someone had a FOR SURE answer on this. Also, dealer isn't that close to me and service/parts hours are terrible there (6 p.m.). Believe me, I am all about doing things the easiest way.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:47 PM   #11616
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I mostly pop mine into a higher gear to coast down hills for MPG, but the computer still fights me and drop back to higher revs for no reason.

For spirited driving, a little bit of manual interaction helps, but it's few and far between. I blipped down a few gears for passing when the CVT didn't really sense my urgency when stomping on the gas.
Bry - how long have you had your 2012 2.0i? do you know your build date?

also: did you see the mileage threads with the TSB on the TCU and ECU programming firmware from Jan 2012 correcting issues with the CVT and other matters?

i actually, in my limited use (in my feb 2012 built one) found that the quick use of manual (while in Drive) has been pretty well behaved. i have yet to take a long highway trip to see how it handles a long downgrade. but i guess if i have any issues, i would slip it into M so that i can't be too smart and shift when i don't want it to.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:49 PM   #11617
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Yeah, I looked at getting an OEM plug and with that I am even getting discrepancies. I got the 105 sitting at home I will try it this weekend and let you guys know. I was just hoping that someone had a FOR SURE answer on this. Also, dealer isn't that close to me and service/parts hours are terrible there (6 p.m.). Believe me, I am all about doing things the easiest way.
It never hurts to be skeptical, dealers, online vendors and forums can all give you bad information.

I was, however, pretty convinced by these two posts:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...o#post36347739

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...o#post37021330
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:55 PM   #11618
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:56 PM   #11619
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Hey all,
We just got our first Subaru a 2012 5 door CVT Premium in Black Cherry Pearl. So far we really like it. I wanted to find out if this is normal before taking it in, when starting from a dead stop and making a turn I hear a low grumble from the rear of the car. I also notice it when backing up a hill into our driveway. I wasn't sure if this was a normal sound for a Subaru or something that I should be concerned about. There are no other vibrations or noises at any other time. The low growl sound goes away after about 100 feet or so.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:57 PM   #11620
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anyone install a block heater yet? the part number is A091SFJ000 but I wonder how much it differs from A0910AS100, which is 1/3 the price http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1296
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:19 PM   #11621
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Yeah, I looked at getting an OEM plug and with that I am even getting discrepancies. I got the 105 sitting at home I will try it this weekend and let you guys know. I was just hoping that someone had a FOR SURE answer on this. Also, dealer isn't that close to me and service/parts hours are terrible there (6 p.m.). Believe me, I am all about doing things the easiest way.
It won't fit - my quick measure with a ruler of the OEM plug that I removed is 15mm.

The F108 is 16mm so my measurement was close.

The F105 is 20mm.

Let me know what you discover when you pull out your plug...
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:08 PM   #11622
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Checked my tire pressures today, I've got about 1.5K on the odo new from the dealership and have never put air into the tires. They were reading ~45psi cold with ~75 degree outside air temp. So +1 to the list of dealers that didn't prep right.

Installed the Subaru hood deflector today as well, anyone know how to remove the Subaru lettering on it safely?
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:12 AM   #11623
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Why would anyone drive 1500 miles without checking their tire pressure? Because the TPMS light wasn't lit?

I corrected the tire pressure the next morning after driving it home when the tires were cold and check them every couple of weeks.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:28 AM   #11624
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Zeeper,
In the defensive of the individual that drove 1500 miles before checking tire pressure it was most likely because he just read about it. This problem is fairly well documented here but you have to come across it or search for "tire pressure" to find it. As far as other forums go none of them have much more than a hint of this problem.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:22 AM   #11625
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Why would anyone drive 1500 miles without checking their tire pressure? Because the TPMS light wasn't lit?

I corrected the tire pressure the next morning after driving it home when the tires were cold and check them every couple of weeks.
Probably because they assumed the dealer would have done the right thing and perform proper PDI. I can't believe how lazy some dealers are.
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