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OVeRBOOSTn · 10-09-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OVeRBOOSTn

My car? Lol

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5432gone · 10-10-2010, 05:32 PM

Not to intrude, or thread jack, but i love the arguments i see around about the..."By the time you spool i'll be long gone." I used to use this all the time being a muscle car guy,but its kind of like comparing stuff with two different objectives. Sure, any car with torque and low end will win in a short sprint..ex. big block n20 nova vs. 70mm civic that revs 9k...nova in the short sprint, but when the civic get in his power band he'll take the long run...sorry for the aimless rambling,but i just think its funny. By the way nice craftsmanship on your ride def. well put together...

sumfoo1 · 10-10-2010, 07:06 PM

as long as the gearing matches the powerband and there is a usable power band it really doesn't matter where the powerband is.. i mean most of the 10 sec cars here still do a 1.8 or better 60'... which tells me that all this work was for very little.

Cameron_Datto · 11-26-2010, 08:09 AM

Just curious what size exhaust housing you used with the Gt488r turbo , in the magazine articial . it`s saying a .86 A/r is this correct ?. thought should you be using something like a 1.06 A/r twinscroll , as other shops are using that size with just a turbo set up .. what are you thoughts on the turbo power band ?

Phatron · 01-12-2011, 06:40 PM

hows the car doing bump

BenGSX · 02-04-2011, 01:06 PM

hows the car doing bump
(inquiring minds would like to know)

scottie1134 · 10-02-2011, 07:17 PM

I've been curious also to what the new additions to the car are. I've heard of a new bigger turbo to really crank the power up, but this is just rumors.

stragen · 10-20-2011, 02:44 PM

I just read twenty-five and a half pages of this thread like it was my job.

Do want updates.

croot08 · 10-20-2011, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stragen

I just read twenty-five and a half pages of this thread like it was my job.

Do want updates.

amen me to haha lets hear it!!

jdpsearcher · 10-20-2011, 05:34 PM

I am surprised the original poster didn't use a compound turbo set up instead of throwing in the blower....

I wish him the best of luck though....

AcidTonic · 10-20-2011, 05:36 PM

Nice unique setup. Sure people might not have all good things to say but you're one of the few doing this and sharing the info freely.

Props and nice build.

quicksubie · 10-21-2011, 08:38 PM

saw this and went meh

Motiva · 12-23-2011, 12:25 PM

What was the final completion of this project?

FATCanuck · 04-08-2012, 06:11 PM

Update: broken rod... hit the reset button. Eagle rods, should have known

creative wrx · 04-11-2012, 12:09 AM

i was thinking about this car the other day for some reason. whats the plans for the new motor.

Spike_916 · 04-11-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by silver arrow

...

Anyway, another crazy idea is the guy in England that is feeding fuel to the hot side of the turbo and spinning it like a turbine to have the turbo always spooled. That's crazy, but it is very effective too, other than his first attempt burning to the ground.

I love seeing the innovation and doing things different. Good job my friend.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that like an Anti-Lag System (ALS)? From my memory the ALS usually injects fuel to the down pipe and not the hot side. That's what was explained to me and how damaging it is to the car. Also I was told that loud fire cracker type popping when a rally car was getting ready to launch was the injected fuel igniting to create the back pressure to keep the turbo spinning. Like I said, I could be wrong since it has been a while since I researched it.

If that was the case I think this compound charged idea is better on a grand scale since potentially wont damage your down pipe or turbo while giving the same low end effect.

gtasti · 04-11-2012, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATCanuck

Update: broken rod... hit the reset button. Eagle rods, should have known

here buy this motor push it to 40psi all day and have no worrys

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2321465

dysh@ · 04-15-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATCanuck

Update: broken rod... hit the reset button. Eagle rods, should have known

604whp not bad for eagle h-beams. isn't it?

spintheground · 04-15-2012, 03:29 PM

Re-subscribed for updates!
Sorry to hear about the rod, let us know what the rebuild will be!!

scottie1134 · 04-16-2012, 03:29 AM

Sucks that the rod broke. But hopefully you had a lot of fun before it broke. Rods always find a way of ruining everyone's fun.

3MI Racing · 04-16-2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATCanuck

Update: broken rod... hit the reset button. Eagle rods, should have known

What else went with the rod? In for pics of the new 'window' in the block.

At least it sounds like you knew Eagles were crap. I still wonder why people buy cheap parts (cut corners) to simply pay more later for their mistakes

Have any plans for the rebuild?

FATCanuck · 05-13-2012, 12:02 AM

Well so far I have ordered a jdm 2.0L closed deck block and a stroker crank. Pauter rods and JE billet pistons. Acl race bearings. Salvaged the cams and associated hardware. Sent the heads to cosworth for porting and assembly etc. Should be a pretty tough motor...
I think just for the summer I will jam a 30R on there so I can just drive it for once, and then look at making the monster breath some serious fire over the winter. As fun as that kit is/ was, it is a high maintenance set-up. Always adjusting the balance between the two ( S/C and turbo) , blowing off hoses and such. When those things happen, it will over boost basically instantly , and I would say that's what happened and probly more than once. The kit is strong and the layout is good. Belt drive system and dual throttle bodies worked flawlessly. Rob did some very good work in there no doubt. Also as a side note, when I took it apart it had Manley rods in there so take from that what you will. Literally snapped it right in half.
The system will require some minor tweaks. Boost proof hoses/ make them all mechanical connections. Hard pipe a few sections and further modularization so it is not so difficult to work on. I also think that it should run a map sensor in place of the draw through. That was a major drawback. Not so much on all it performance but on drivability and efficiency.
There were a few things I did that I would change if I was back in time, but all in all it wasn't a bad set up. The heads I would have definitely done different. Although bork mans head work was clean, it just wasn't aggressive enough to be a good pairing with that kit. Fantastic for a small turbo!
Not a whole bunch else to say, have been off the forums for a while, anyone else doing any compound turbos or similar? Those billet blocks look promising...
I will post a few pics of the carnage when I get a chance...
Keep the hammer down people, it's the only way to keep the next generation from succumbing to segways and such.

gtasti · 05-13-2012, 12:17 AM

should of just got my motor hella of a lot cheaper

fobiawrx · 05-13-2012, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATCanuck

Well so far I have ordered a jdm 2.0L closed deck block and a stroker crank. Pauter rods and JE billet pistons. Acl race bearings. Salvaged the cams and associated hardware. Sent the heads to cosworth for porting and assembly etc. Should be a pretty tough motor...
I think just for the summer I will jam a 30R on there so I can just drive it for once, and then look at making the monster breath some serious fire over the winter. As fun as that kit is/ was, it is a high maintenance set-up. Always adjusting the balance between the two ( S/C and turbo) , blowing off hoses and such. When those things happen, it will over boost basically instantly , and I would say that's what happened and probly more than once. The kit is strong and the layout is good. Belt drive system and dual throttle bodies worked flawlessly. Rob did some very good work in there no doubt. Also as a side note, when I took it apart it had Manley rods in there so take from that what you will. Literally snapped it right in half.
The system will require some minor tweaks. Boost proof hoses/ make them all mechanical connections. Hard pipe a few sections and further modularization so it is not so difficult to work on. I also think that it should run a map sensor in place of the draw through. That was a major drawback. Not so much on all it performance but on drivability and efficiency.
There were a few things I did that I would change if I was back in time, but all in all it wasn't a bad set up. The heads I would have definitely done different. Although bork mans head work was clean, it just wasn't aggressive enough to be a good pairing with that kit. Fantastic for a small turbo!
Not a whole bunch else to say, have been off the forums for a while, anyone else doing any compound turbos or similar? Those billet blocks look promising...
I will post a few pics of the carnage when I get a chance...
Keep the hammer down people, it's the only way to keep the next generation from succumbing to segways and such.

in testing now. just about got it figured out. its a twinscroll 3076r feeding a borg s480 t6 1.32. uses two v44 gates to regulate the 30r and a single to regulate the 80mm. going to change the pipe between the two compressors to a 3.5 instead of the 2.5 now and i should have the graph im looking for.

Beetspeed · 05-13-2012, 12:25 PM

Thats sick Fobia! (in a good way)
Any pics of the exhaust gas paths? I still can't 'see' how this all routes...

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5432gone Scooby Newbie Member#: 187164 Join Date: Aug 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Dandridge,TN Vehicle: 2003 Holset bug-I WRB	Not to intrude, or thread jack, but i love the arguments i see around about the..."By the time you spool i'll be long gone." I used to use this all the time being a muscle car guy,but its kind of like comparing stuff with two different objectives. Sure, any car with torque and low end will win in a short sprint..ex. big block n20 nova vs. 70mm civic that revs 9k...nova in the short sprint, but when the civic get in his power band he'll take the long run...sorry for the aimless rambling,but i just think its funny. By the way nice craftsmanship on your ride def. well put together...

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11-26-2010, 08:09 AM	#629
Cameron_Datto Scooby Newbie Member#: 232835 Join Date: Dec 2009	Just curious what size exhaust housing you used with the Gt488r turbo , in the magazine articial . it`s saying a .86 A/r is this correct ?. thought should you be using something like a 1.06 A/r twinscroll , as other shops are using that size with just a turbo set up .. what are you thoughts on the turbo power band ?

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BenGSX Scooby Specialist Member#: 210061 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Elk Grove, CA	hows the car doing bump (inquiring minds would like to know)

10-02-2011, 07:17 PM	#632
scottie1134 Scooby Newbie Member#: 214655 Join Date: Jun 2009 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuqueque, NM Vehicle: 2001 Audi S4 Silver	I've been curious also to what the new additions to the car are. I've heard of a new bigger turbo to really crank the power up, but this is just rumors.

10-20-2011, 02:44 PM	#633
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10-20-2011, 05:34 PM	#635
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10-20-2011, 05:36 PM	#636
AcidTonic Scooby Newbie Member#: 298459 Join Date: Oct 2011	Nice unique setup. Sure people might not have all good things to say but you're one of the few doing this and sharing the info freely. Props and nice build.

10-21-2011, 08:38 PM	#637
quicksubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 221140 Join Date: Aug 2009 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: utah Vehicle: 2005 hybrid=fun :-D 93 L 2.5rs rally preped	saw this and went meh

12-23-2011, 12:25 PM	#638
Motiva Scooby Newbie Member#: 304763 Join Date: Dec 2011 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque New Mexico Vehicle: 2004 WRX Rally blue	What was the final completion of this project?

04-08-2012, 06:11 PM	#639
FATCanuck Scooby Newbie Member#: 142534 Join Date: Mar 2007	Update: broken rod... hit the reset button. Eagle rods, should have known

04-11-2012, 12:09 AM	#640
creative wrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 141754 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: new jersey Vehicle: 04 stock wrx ;) z31 project, passat dd	i was thinking about this car the other day for some reason. whats the plans for the new motor.

04-15-2012, 03:29 PM	#644
spintheground Scooby Specialist Member#: 239638 Join Date: Feb 2010 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2007 WRX TR UGM 02 MR2 EGM	Re-subscribed for updates! Sorry to hear about the rod, let us know what the rebuild will be!!

04-16-2012, 03:29 AM	#645
scottie1134 Scooby Newbie Member#: 214655 Join Date: Jun 2009 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuqueque, NM Vehicle: 2001 Audi S4 Silver	Sucks that the rod broke. But hopefully you had a lot of fun before it broke. Rods always find a way of ruining everyone's fun.

05-13-2012, 12:02 AM	#647
FATCanuck Scooby Newbie Member#: 142534 Join Date: Mar 2007	Well so far I have ordered a jdm 2.0L closed deck block and a stroker crank. Pauter rods and JE billet pistons. Acl race bearings. Salvaged the cams and associated hardware. Sent the heads to cosworth for porting and assembly etc. Should be a pretty tough motor... I think just for the summer I will jam a 30R on there so I can just drive it for once, and then look at making the monster breath some serious fire over the winter. As fun as that kit is/ was, it is a high maintenance set-up. Always adjusting the balance between the two ( S/C and turbo) , blowing off hoses and such. When those things happen, it will over boost basically instantly , and I would say that's what happened and probly more than once. The kit is strong and the layout is good. Belt drive system and dual throttle bodies worked flawlessly. Rob did some very good work in there no doubt. Also as a side note, when I took it apart it had Manley rods in there so take from that what you will. Literally snapped it right in half. The system will require some minor tweaks. Boost proof hoses/ make them all mechanical connections. Hard pipe a few sections and further modularization so it is not so difficult to work on. I also think that it should run a map sensor in place of the draw through. That was a major drawback. Not so much on all it performance but on drivability and efficiency. There were a few things I did that I would change if I was back in time, but all in all it wasn't a bad set up. The heads I would have definitely done different. Although bork mans head work was clean, it just wasn't aggressive enough to be a good pairing with that kit. Fantastic for a small turbo! Not a whole bunch else to say, have been off the forums for a while, anyone else doing any compound turbos or similar? Those billet blocks look promising... I will post a few pics of the carnage when I get a chance... Keep the hammer down people, it's the only way to keep the next generation from succumbing to segways and such.

05-13-2012, 12:17 AM	#648
gtasti Scooby Specialist Member#: 152036 Join Date: Jun 2007 Chapter/Region: E. Canada Location: Ontario Vehicle: 2004 Sti PSM	should of just got my motor hella of a lot cheaper

05-13-2012, 12:25 PM	#650
Beetspeed Scooby Newbie Member#: 166264 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Netherlands, Europe Vehicle: 1974 VW 2.2 BW8475 396 WHP @ 25psi	Thats sick Fobia! (in a good way) Any pics of the exhaust gas paths? I still can't 'see' how this all routes...